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Tom Tucker posted:The performance by Deputy Inspector Fascist-Stick-Up-My-rear end was amazing. Every scene he was in was captivating, from him baffled by his superior telling him to sweep things under the rug, to him berating the people "working" for him just trying to punch their timecards, to the inspirational speech, to the dead-eyed look at the exploded speeder, it was just great. the whole thing seemed to be setting him up for a longer arc where we'll see him again as an imperial officer. fits right into an easy plot where he would be recruited and promoted for failure after he throws his boss under the bus and blames him for trying to cover up what appears to be a newly discovered terrorist cell. i dont think i saw him in a different uniform in the trailers though
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Despite being absolutely burned by watching all of Obi-wan I was persuaded to check out Andor, which has no right to be good as it is, and I'll be writing it up like I did for Obi-wan but hopefully less bitterly and in (presumably) three-episode chunks:quote:It seems implausible that we actually see less of this future neon city than we do the party drug planet from Obi-wan given how much more vibrant and coherent it feels — in what will become a running mark of quality, there’s an extended scene of the club bouncer patting Andor down and giving him the house rules before he heads in. These small moments and subtle characters count tenfold in making the setting compelling, and Andor has them in spades: the busybody on the space transport who thinks everything’s crooked, the town bellringer who takes immense pride in his work without saying a single word, the guy who Cassian owes money to who has hired a local shark man to lightly menace him (yes, a loan-shark). These things could all easily be on the cutting room floor, and a persistent complaint I had about Obi-wan was that they invariably were, giving the impression of a world where people only ever talked when they wanted to muse about starting a rebellion. https://josh04.medium.com/ando-calrissian-andor-episodes-1-2-3-abce250ecb32
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Owlbear Camus posted:An argument could be made that on the causeway entrance he was acting out of desperate, solitary immediacy. The first cop he murdered was reasonable to me because 1) There was absolutely no way in hell that cop was going to just let Cassian go about his business if Cassian just bolted 2) There was absolutely no way in hell that cop was being honest about them going in together and coming up with a story, Cassian just got this cop's friend killed right in front of him, he would have executed Cassian the second he had the chance so he could have a more heroic story and not "my friend was a moron and slipped" When he gets the drop on paladin cop later on look at the situation they're in. Keeping a low (well, low as you can) profile and setting up the poo poo with the speeder/bomb is the main priority, blaster fire or a physical altercation would have immediately drawn everyone there, and the other cops already generally know where Karn is. Like in heat of the moment Cassian just bolting there seems fine. That said, it maybe could have been set up a little better, like maybe he's about to pistol whip him or kill him but then some he seems some of the other troops approaching or almost gets spotted, to make it more clearly not worth the effort.
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no because you can just watch Rogue One again if you want to watch Rogue One again
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josh04 posted:Despite being absolutely burned by watching all of Obi-wan I was persuaded to check out Andor, which has no right to be good as it is, and I'll be writing it up like I did for Obi-wan but hopefully less bitterly and in (presumably) three-episode chunks: quote:The genius of Andor, at least in this first trilogy of episodes, is that it doesn’t even try. It’s barely Star Wars. I agree with this. This is an SF show set in the SW galaxy more than that it is an actual Star Wars entry. Watching it, I was starting to wonder if we're ever going to get a story even further detached from the main stories. Just a story of some people in space making a living. Not getting really caught up in the war, maybe use it as a backdrop. Throw in some references, but otherwise leave it be. Like the life of Freck.
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I loving KNEW I'd recognized the front of that ship. Thanks for confirming! 
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The one Corp guy stopping Bix was dumb, there's literally an entire town of people running around and dozens of people banging alarms but yes, make sure to notice and stop the one plot important character that you see so she can witness a snitch getting what he deserves. Aside from that episode 3 was great.
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I'm seriously thinking about putting together a video essay about this first arc over the weekend, just for the fun of it. Two more observations about this first arc: In a break from genre conventions, and maybe why the inciting incident with the two killed cops is loving some people up: In most fantasy media, the protagonist's intention when it comes to initiating violence acts as an almost absolute guarantor of outcome. Batman never intends to kill, and thus no amount of blunt trauma he inflicts on the joker's goons will result in a lethal brain hemorrhage, ever. The Punisher only ever intends to kill criminals, and thus unloading a SAW on a city street will never result in a single bullet overpenetrating and even injuring an uninvolved bystander. loving up a should-have-been-non-lethal takedown and snapping a guy's neck is Cohen Brothers or Vince Gilligan territory. You're not ready for that in a Star War. The theme of deception and lies runs so deep, but what's interesting is that in a more fabulist telling, what would cook Andor's goose is one lie too many, or the tangled web of keeping them straight. Here that's not it. Everyone swims in lies. What fucks him up is when a truths he told to two people intersects, once with the sex worker admitting the woman he was looking for was his sister (and implicitly that he was from the obscure planet) likely to win over her sympathies and get her to open up more, and when he let it out that he was from that planet in the past as pillow talk with his lovers, including Bix.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:The one Corp guy stopping Bix was dumb, there's literally an entire town of people running around and dozens of people banging alarms but yes, make sure to notice and stop the one plot important character that you see so she can witness a snitch getting what he deserves. you can make up a few reasons about why it 'works' such as 'she was running in the wrong direction' or 'cops are always harassing hot girls' but for sure it's just a dumb squence. idk why timm walked towards the cops either, i'm sure he feels guilty but that wouldn't make him suddenly dumb. it's the only sequence in the first 3 episodes that i felt was really bad. the writers wanted to demonstrate how Gritty space war is i guess so they needed to up the emotional stakes with a death (that doesn't really work??)
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ill admit I was confused and thought "wait was she a known associate of his, is that why?"
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I know why Timm walked towards them. He thought since he was a good guy he could just walk up to them arresting someone but turns out he wasn't on their level. The cops hate everyone. And since he reported it he's a good guy, right? It's a classic, "I never thought leopards would eat MY face". And she was just running around after they told everyone to gently caress off - cops don't give a gently caress and she was interfering in their minds. It's classic brutalism. Not very hard to figure out.
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In the Mandalorian episode where he finally meets Ashoka (season 2, ep 13), isn't there a guy who was waaaay too invested in banging out the time on a big metal drum there, too? I love the idea that the Star Wars universe just uses burly men as clocks.
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Sep 23, 2022 16:12
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And it's the best possible job.
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Who wakes up the guy who wakes everyone else up??
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:Who wakes up the guy who wakes everyone else up?? An
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Speaking of specialty droids - the loving step droid at the flying bus station where everyone steps in its head all day. Real "pass the butter" energy. 
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Super-into-it-Bell-Guy is the kind of world building that makes these “alien” places feel alive.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:An That just raises further questions! Megillah Gorilla posted:Speaking of specialty droids - the loving step droid at the flying bus station where everyone steps in its head all day. Eh, it's a living.
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I can't decide if I want a scene of the Time Grappler using those hammers to smash stormtrooper helmets in a riot, or if that would be a bit too much. I'm torn.
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We already had the Armorer do it, and after that Boba Fett smashed Storm Troopers. If Andor wants to keep with tradition Time Dude will smash Storm Troopers, but I get the feeling this show wants to break from tradition.
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josh04 posted:Despite being absolutely burned by watching all of Obi-wan I was persuaded to check out Andor, which has no right to be good as it is, and I'll be writing it up like I did for Obi-wan but hopefully less bitterly and in (presumably) three-episode chunks: these little details make the difference between a world that the characters move through vs a stage that exists only when the main characters are around
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Tom Tucker posted:Super-into-it-Bell-Guy is the kind of world building that makes these “alien” places feel alive. That really quick shot of him getting ready to start pounding was brilliant. It turned a background character into a real person inhabiting the universe.
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getting my job stolen by a droid at the dicksucking factory
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Speaking of specialty droids - the loving step droid at the flying bus station where everyone steps in its head all day. I loved it. Half the fun with these Star Wars shows is seeing all the stupid fun droids they think up. Star Wars has the best robots of any fantasy world, bar none.
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Love that the actor playing the "Time Grappler" has the surname Bell.
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Owlbear Camus posted:burned a bunch of coaxium Lmao I love the kind of realism in star wars that means "here's a guy who lives with his mom" but the setting is not allowed to have thermodynamics that's just absurd What next are we gonna find out that Coruscant is 90% carbon capture facilities edit: the snitch getting shot was a little weak and I feel that his killer immediately crashing his ship while trying to desert was a better implementation of a similar karmic idea Mameluke fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Sep 23, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/pabl0hidalgo/status/1573337880348467202
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Pablo just laying down a lore-hammer on all the whiners.
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The fact that people are so dumb that he had to do this is just....JFC
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Also notable C-3PO is the only one to say gently caress since they’re a protocol droid
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Dorks gettin mad over certain dialogue use need to touch grass. Fuckin' dorks lol.
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drat, I think Lucasfilm has Marvel beat for "worst working conditions for post-production artists." https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/09/darth-vaders-voice-emanated-from-war-torn-ukraine quote:Belyaev was rushing to finish his work as Putin’s troops came across the border. “If everything went bad, we would never make these conversions delivered to Skywalker Sound,” he says. “So I decided to push this data right on the 24th of February.”
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Mameluke posted:edit: the snitch getting shot was a little weak and I feel that his killer immediately crashing his ship while trying to desert was a better implementation of a similar karmic idea He wasn’t trying to desert? The leader of his squad told him to go back to the pod and get it airborne, presumably as support and eyes in the sky.
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Alan Smithee posted:Also notable C-3PO is the only one to say gently caress since they’re a protocol droid "I AM THE ONE WHO SAYS gently caress!" ~C-3PO, Human-Cyborg Relations
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Robot Style posted:drat, I think Lucasfilm has Marvel beat for "worst working conditions for post-production artists." we need our treats
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pretty good but John Andor needs to stop being such a sad sack. maybe the beautiful and smart Bix could be the protagonist
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I thought Cassian was calling her "Biggs" for the entirety of the first episode.
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mistermojo posted:pretty good but John Andor needs to stop being such a sad sack. maybe the beautiful and smart Bix could be the protagonist He has to find his sister Cassie Ann Andor AndyElusive posted:I thought Cassian was calling her "Biggs" for the entirety of the first episode. She should have called him Wormy I would have lost my goddamn mind
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AndyElusive posted:I thought Cassian was calling her "Biggs" for the entirety of the first episode. Before I turned on subtitles I was really curious about this word they kept saying at the start that was almost Canary but not quite.
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Subtitles are definitely recommended for this show, because otherwise you could easily not pick up that the character you thought was Tim was actually Timm
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