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https://twitter.com/tokyocheapo/status/1573242329560977408 gently caress yeaa
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Oh god please no not the loving cringe karts
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Sep 23, 2022 16:31
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Aight. Time to start planning this again. Gonna go in late November 2023. Whoop whoop. Nanigans fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Sep 23, 2022 |
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Sep 23, 2022 18:39
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On one hand the yen being low is a plus and maybe the tourist deprived areas will be super welcoming. On the other hand i dunno if i want to be part of the first wave of tourists besieging it's shores and thinking of taking a wait and see approach to see any kinks or gotchas pop-up and how the locals react.
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Sep 23, 2022 18:51
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I'm in line for boarding a flight and two girls already are chatting about how they booked flights for Japan's reopening. Take that as you will...
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Sep 23, 2022 19:08
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Sounds like an anecdote.
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Sep 23, 2022 19:09
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I had booked flights to/from Tokyo months ago for Feb/Mar2023 and am glad to see it opening up. Are there suggested timelines to plan for cities? I believe we have 12 nights and I’m wondering what a typical extended first time Japanese experience should be. We can figure out what to do when there’d but we’re trying to figure out how much time to spend where/what is a day trip and what should be multiple days in one place. We’d like to not do 1 night here/2nights there kind of thing, so perhaps 4 nights Tokyo, then where to, and how long? Osaka? Kyoto? I’m familiar with what to see in Tokyo and the surrounding areas, but beyond Mt Fuji, we’re not sure what to do outside of Tokyo.
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Sep 23, 2022 19:16
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You could easily spend that entire time in a single city. At most I'd split it between Osaka and Tokyo. Kyoto is very close to Osaka and easy to go to for a day trip (or two) if you don't feel like switching hotels or nailing down your time so much. Nara and Kobe also are right next door, it's all one big metro area. Also always support going somewhere other than the big cities. Matsumoto is a personal favorite among the mid-size towns. Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Sep 23, 2022 |
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Sep 23, 2022 19:30
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Look at things to do and figure out what it is that most appeals to you. I agree with the split Tokyo/Osaka. Osaka is a great hub as you can easily day trip out a fairly good distance and then get back to the city for dinner. You can even day trip Hiroshima from Osaka which may or may not be your interest. Kyoto is amazing. After being to Japan more than a handful of times, I'd say that in terms of creating memories, Kyoto is the place not to miss. Tokyo kinda needs to be experienced because it is like Mahattan but the size of the Los Angeles/Orange County metro. It's not Kyoto, though.
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Sep 23, 2022 21:21
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Ailumao posted:https://twitter.com/tokyocheapo/status/1573242329560977408 gently caress yeaa For gently caress sake.
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Sep 23, 2022 23:01
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Waltzing Along posted:Look at things to do and figure out what it is that most appeals to you. Would you say it's worth booking a third hotel in Kyoto just to cut down on commute time, or is the distance between Osaka and Kyoto minor enough that it won't matter? I've read Kyoto is best early in the morning before the crowds are up. I'd think just staying there would make things easier, especially if we want to explore Kyoto for more than one day, but I'd be happier with having to move hotels less often for sure. Nanigans fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Sep 23, 2022 |
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Sep 23, 2022 23:19
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The train from central Osaka to Kyoto is like 40 minutes. I don't think moving hotels is a huge burden, but I'm not trying to squeeze in as much either and I travel light. It is nice not having to worry about getting home before the trains stop. Though if that does happen you can take either of the Japanese solutions of staying out and drunk until they start again, or crashing in a capsule.
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Sep 23, 2022 23:23
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Grand Fromage posted:You could easily spend that entire time in a single city. At most I'd split it between Osaka and Tokyo. Kyoto is very close to Osaka and easy to go to for a day trip (or two) if you don't feel like switching hotels or nailing down your time so much. Nara and Kobe also are right next door, it's all one big metro area. Waltzing Along posted:Look at things to do and figure out what it is that most appeals to you. Perfect, thank you!
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Sep 23, 2022 23:23
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Osaka to Kyoto is only like 30 mins by train. If you're more into getting up early and hitting tourist sights over nightlife then you could just stay in Kyoto and day trip to Osaka.
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Sep 23, 2022 23:25
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I only recommend staying in Osaka since it's the center of the metro area. Also it's the best city in Japan. Seeing Kyoto while it's not ultracrowded is definitely not something I'd skip if you can do it. Nara too, though it's nowhere near as bad as Kyoto.
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Sep 23, 2022 23:26
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Grand Fromage posted:Also it's the best city in Japan.
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Sep 23, 2022 23:29
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12 nights is probably perfect for Tokyo + Kansai + 1 other (e.g. Hakone) to get your "ooh, a ryokan" experience. If you decide that you don't need very much time in one of those cities then you could conceivably also fit another small side trip (e.g. Koya-san). Ailumao posted:https://twitter.com/tokyocheapo/status/1573242329560977408 gently caress yeaa These are the worst.
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Sep 23, 2022 23:57
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Those tours sound like they’d be nightmarish hellrides as soon as you realise you’re in a loving go-kart on city streets with traffic consisting entirely of much bigger vehicles that could crush you flat at any moment, because you’re way down low so not all that visible if you aren’t bunched up with the rest of the convoy, and if you’re from the US or any other country that drives on the wrong side of the road you’re likely a little disoriented too so it’s also possible you’ll gently caress something up and get yourself smeared that way. You’re also at a great height to just breathe a bunch of exhaust fumes the entire time.
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Sep 24, 2022 00:09
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This is what I'm thinking for our 14 days: Sunday morning - Fly out from the U.S. Monday - Arrive at Disney Hotel (my wife really wants to see Tokyo Disney and go back to Disney Sea and stay in their Toy Story hotel  )Tuesday - Tokyo Disney (both parks) Wednesday - Travel to Kyoto in the morning, explore in the afternoon/evening Thursday - Kyoto Friday - Kyoto Saturday - Nara, travel to Osaka in the evening Sunday - Osaka Monday - Universal Studios Tuesday - Osaka, travel to Tokyo in the evening Wednesday - Tokyo Thursday - Tokyo Friday - Tokyo Saturday - Tokyo in the morning, fly out in the late afternoon/evening 4 cities in two weeks, hitting the big stops. We were also thinking maybe the Friday before we leave of going to Nagano to visit an onsen and the monkeys. We're going in late November/early December, and I read it's already snowy there at that time.
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Sep 24, 2022 00:24
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Do Disney after day 4 when your jetlag is resolved
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Sep 24, 2022 00:31
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Nanigans posted:
Skip Universal and go to Minoo park or the Aquarium or something.
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Sep 24, 2022 00:35
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Waltzing Along posted:Skip Universal and go to Minoo park or the Aquarium or something. lol no. USJ is way better than Disney anyway.
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Sep 24, 2022 00:43
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Kyoto probably won't be snowing at that time and if it does it will only last half a day or so. You might get lucky though.
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Also if you're in Kyoto for three days you might want to look at going to Arashiyama. Monkeys are there too.
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Ailumao posted:https://twitter.com/tokyocheapo/status/1573242329560977408 gently caress yeaa
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Nanigans posted:We were also thinking maybe the Friday before we leave of going to Nagano to visit an onsen and the monkeys. We're going in late November/early December, and I read it's already snowy there at that time. Snow is obviously unpredictable but you're probably not going to see any. Beyond usual yearly variation, the geography is a big deal. The Sea of Japan side of the island gets a lot of snow, the Pacific side does not. Nagano seems like it should be snowy since it's in the middle of the mountains but it's a crapshoot. It can be dramatic, I did a trip in early Feb where I was on the Sea of Japan side and it was cold, windy, and enormously snowy. Then two hours to Matsumoto and it was chilly and snow free, then two more hours to Tokyo and it was like mid-fall hoodie weather. If you're looking to guarantee snow you probably want to go up to like Akita or Aomori. Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Sep 24, 2022 |
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Sep 24, 2022 01:25
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:Also if you're in Kyoto for three days you might want to look at going to Arashiyama. Monkeys are there too. Autumn leaves in Arashiyama should be absolutely going off in late November, and it's possible at the moment it might not be absolutely gridlocked with tourists 24/7.
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Mister Chief posted:lol no. USJ is way better than Disney anyway. Except for the fact that Disney Tokyo Sea is the #1 amusement park in the world. But yeah, other than that USJ is better. Oh wait...
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#1 at being extremely boring maybe
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Yeah, wife and I decided to skip USJ and just use the day to go to a nice onsen. I'm totally down for the authentic fully nude experience. Wife is a lot more conservative, but is getting open to the idea of public nudity since like..she'll never see any of these people ever again. Any good onsen towns in between Osaka and Tokyo? What's the going rate these days to have hotels forward your luggage to your next hotel?
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there's atami which is the first stop in shizuoka going west on the tokaido shinkansen, i liked it well enough when my japanese friends took me there and it's also a beach town during the summer
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Hakone is the typical onsen town between Tokyo and Osaka. If you want to do an onsen in Nagano, you might just consider doing it straight from Osaka. Go to Tokyo and straight on to Nagano. Save you a round of pack/unpack and recharge you a bit before your Tokyo leg. You could also return via Kanazawa if there's something up there that tickles your fancy.
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Gonna keep it a buck. I've been dragged to onsen/sentos two times I'm still not sure what the appeal of bathing with a bunch of strangers is, even in natural hot springs.
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AHH F/UGH posted:Gonna keep it a buck. I've been dragged to onsen/sentos two times I'm still not sure what the appeal of bathing with a bunch of strangers is, even in natural hot springs. that tracks
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Sep 24, 2022 04:00
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It's bathing in natural hot springs despite the strangers, OP
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leather fedora posted:lol at the guy running the site in the QTs saying all the negative responses are from foreign residents "gatekeeping" He’s right, except those kart tours are cringey as hell and dangerous because the size is so small. The gate keeping is justified in this case. Jerry Manderbilt posted:there's atami which is the first stop in shizuoka going west on the tokaido shinkansen, i liked it well enough when my japanese friends took me there and it's also a beach town during the summer Atami also has a lot of day-use places, which is good. Some allow you to reserve a private onsen, which might be better if you’re worried about the whole people soup thing.
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this is not between tokyo and osaka and all but i hear in echigo-yuzawa station on the joetsu shinkansen, they have an onsen where you can bathe in sake too gotta admire the dedication to the gimmick
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Wouldn't bathing in sake dry out your skin pretty badly?
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That sounds awful.
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Waltzing Along posted:Wouldn't bathing in sake dry out your skin pretty badly? Nah it's used as an ingredient in high- end skincare. Assuming the bath isn't 100% sake.
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