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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:Seems like the guy was pretty attached to the furniture store. Insurance can't fix a broken heart. Also Barnes was, in his own way, just as traumatized and abused by Silver as Daniel was. The prospect of the boogie man coming back and taking his dream away from him again would be enough to drive him to a bit of irrational bloodlust.
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Sep 22, 2022 08:18
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It was such a letdown that Barnes was knocked out for most of the climax, I wanted to see him go shithouse on those guys.
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Sep 22, 2022 19:06
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ruddiger posted:It was such a letdown that Barnes was knocked out for most of the climax, I wanted to see him go shithouse on those guys. That’s his move though. Happened in III as well.
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Sep 22, 2022 21:10
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Oh, no, sir. They're saying "Boo-arnes".
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Sep 24, 2022 06:12
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I liked the whole season up until the final episode, which seemed almost like a joke in some ways. I dozed off for a bout 5 minutes halfway through the episode (my fault for marathoning it after a long day and little sleep, it wasn't boring) and was wondering if I was dreaming the last 15 or so minutes. It feels like they had everything planned out for another season of the show, then it got axed at the last second and they had to tie everything up in one episode. Nothing that happened in the second half of that episode made any sense based on the setup and pacing of the whole season. Of course, there will probably still be a season 6 with how popular it is, which is why I don't quite understand the sudden resolutions to seemingly many plot arcs. The show has always been a good combination of silly and serious, but I think it doubled or even tripled up on the looney ending, there.
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Sep 24, 2022 07:57
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Just finished the season. It was fun, we mostly enjoyed Silver, being his best villain self. We actually liked the Korean lady. It was like she was out of a Kill Bill movie and didn't realize she got in a Netflix karate tv show. Also, one of the Cobra-kai sensei's had an eyepatch and anime hair lol. I kept pointing him out in the background, like what the hell. Our biggest highlight though was my son's real life karate sensei played one of the international tournament folks. He was the the thin Japanese guy with white hair that the Russian guy tried to speak Japanese too. He also had some reply in Japanese, but they cut it out, so he had no lines. I hope he is in next season when they have they have the tournament, and gets to demonstrate some karate. They gotta have the tournament now in Season 6, right?
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Sep 25, 2022 04:02
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Terry and Kim's squad of 80s mid-card villain backup dancer senseis was the best. It's something that's incredibly stupid, but by the time they all start punching and kicking, you're just into it and down for whatever madness they want to whip out next. I saw someone describe Cobra Kai as basically a Power Rangers show without any super powers, and now I just can't unsee it. It's factually correct. E: https://old.reddit.com/r/cobrakai/comments/usuay8/characters_as_power_rangers/ nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Sep 25, 2022 |
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Sep 25, 2022 04:13
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AgentHaiTo posted:We actually liked the Korean lady. It was like she was out of a Kill Bill movie and didn't realize she got in a Netflix karate tv show. Yeah, I kinda do not get the hate for the Korean lady. I dunno if she was a good actor or not, but she was channeling similar terrible villains from the 80s movies that the show is based on. She was silly and evil but didn't seem out of place.
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Sep 25, 2022 05:37
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Phenotype posted:Yeah, I kinda do not get the hate for the Korean lady. I dunno if she was a good actor or not, but she was channeling similar terrible villains from the 80s movies that the show is based on. She was silly and evil but didn't seem out of place.
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Sep 25, 2022 05:38
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nine-gear crow posted:Terry and Kim's squad of 80s mid-card villain backup dancer senseis was the best. It's something that's incredibly stupid, but by the time they all start punching and kicking, you're just into it and down for whatever madness they want to whip out next. Oh Cobra Kai is fully Tokusatsu. They pulled Robbie straight out of the Jason David Frank clone pile, and there's tons of Kamen Rider style homoerotic tension
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Sep 25, 2022 06:15
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nine-gear crow posted:Terry and Kim's squad of 80s mid-card villain backup dancer senseis was the best. It's something that's incredibly stupid, but by the time they all start punching and kicking, you're just into it and down for whatever madness they want to whip out next. The first time I ever saw Robbie on this show I thought “oh wow if they ever need a new Green Ranger…”
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Sep 25, 2022 07:08
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Thought that was a fantastic season. Probably one of the best since the first, given we didn't get yet another miscommunication / circumstance that rehashes the Daniel / Johnny antagonism. Though like others mentioned, I was surprised at how abruptly and neatly everything wrapped up. When the final showdown amounts to 'let's all get drunk and assault this guy at his house' / 'lets break into Cobra Kai HQ and steal their stuff' - these all seem like extraordinary bad ideas, the type the moral message of the show probably would usually push back on - but it pays off for them! Somehow Silver is immediately arrested, despite being home / business invaded, and it seems like everyone else gets off scott free. I also thought it was a bit silly that the Cobra Kai members would immediately throw off their Ghis and denounce the dojo when they see Silver paying off the judge. I feel they were brainwashed enough with the spirit of strike first / no mercy that they could internalise it. They never seemed to care about honour - and if they really did, current All Valley champion Tori could have, y'know, at any time told them the match was rigged.
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Sep 25, 2022 23:57
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Cobra Kai under Terry Silver was a straight up karate cult, and more than a few real life cults have absolutely imploded after the cult leader is revealed to be a fraud. Tori running around and going "Terry bribed the refs" would get her curbstomped by everyone else in Cobra Kai. Video footage of Silver in his own words saying "Hell yeah I bribed the refs" is far more instantly damaging evidence. It wasn't about honor, it was about strength, and buying a win wasn't a show of strength, it was an act of weakness and according to the very thing Terry taught them all, if your leader is weak he is not worth following.
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Sep 26, 2022 00:11
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It's also pretty central to his pathos as a villain - he's dangerous because he has more power, resources and reach than his mentors, and he's quite a bit cleverer, but he doesn't have the actual ideological commitment that Kreese has.
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Sep 26, 2022 01:18
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If it hadn't been for the ending with Kreese, I would have said the show reached it's logical conclusion with this season.
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Sep 26, 2022 01:33
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Soonmot posted:If it hadn't been for the ending with Kreese, I would have said the show reached it's logical conclusion with this season. And even then, Kreese faking his death and escaping from prison into the night presumably never to be seen again would have been the perfect note to end the show if they'd followed through and given Kreese a proper redemption in prison. Because they've been teasing for so long that Kreese was a redeemable figure, so why not just let him have his due and call it a day?
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Sep 26, 2022 01:46
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Because Martin Kove rules and you shouldn't have him sitting in prison for half the season.
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Sep 26, 2022 12:49
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Hakkesshu posted:Because Martin Kove rules and you shouldn't have him sitting in prison for half the season.
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Sep 26, 2022 12:55
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Frankly I kinda wish they did finish the Kreese arc with his prison death. Martin Kove is 76 and probably isn't to have any great climatic battle at this point. Would have been fine with the final season being the world tournament and Johnny either completely burying Cobra Kai or taking it back and turning it into a positive dojo. Kreese dying could've served as a big impetus for Johnny's final maturation. Anyway, it's fairly open ended now so tbd about where they go with Kreese.
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Sep 26, 2022 23:50
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Was it ever established if Kreese’s captain was lying or not about his high school crush dying? I kinda feel like that’s a swerve still being set up.
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Sep 27, 2022 00:00
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It was like 60 years ago now, it's probably long past mattering.
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Sep 27, 2022 06:45
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I mean, highschool was 20-30 years ago for Johnny and Daniel but it still defines them. But I think it's pretty clear he wasn't lying. Before they go on the mission he gets the letter and he says they shouldn't give kreese the news because that'll distract him etc.
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Sep 27, 2022 09:17
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I think in the Karate Kid universe your teenage years define you for the rest of your life and never leave you alone. Hell, even Amanda this season ran into a bunch of catty women from her high school, straight out of *insert movie here*, which is rather hilarious given than canonically these women should be in what, their 50s?
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Sep 27, 2022 11:31
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iamsosmrt posted:Frankly I kinda wish they did finish the Kreese arc with his prison death. Martin Kove is 76 and probably isn't to have any great climatic battle at this point. Would have been fine with the final season being the world tournament and Johnny either completely burying Cobra Kai or taking it back and turning it into a positive dojo. Kreese dying could've served as a big impetus for Johnny's final maturation. Same. Having Kreese die would give the show some much needed raising of the stakes, I think, and also it seemed like by and large that Kreese's arc was pretty complete. If you kill him off maybe you could somehow have it where Johnny unearths some old letters/photos or something that gives him some catharsis and character growth, like you said. Only thing I can imagine now is Kreese somehow teaming up with Miyagi Do or some poo poo but we've kind of already seen that.
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Sep 27, 2022 13:05
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I'm curious as to where the next season can really go. With the exception of Kreese it feels like they finished up what they could have in LA with the existing characters. Presumably it will be about the international tournament, which seems like a good excuse to change up the setting by moving the cast to Japan or wherever, but that would probably need a new antagonist, or perhaps Kim and her homeland students / a bunch of kids we haven't seen before representing Cobra Kai? Somehow Kreese will need to be involved, suspending disbelief as a fugitive on the plane or however they're going to shoe him in. As long as the 'don't have to name the Dojo yet' comment about the tournament doesn't get Larusso and Lawrence at each other's throats again...
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Sep 27, 2022 15:05
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Seems like it would be more likely that Silver would come back instead of Kreese. Kreese just escaped jail, only way he'd come back is if he's somehow ended up at the tournament in Japan. Silver on the other hand is going to have big money lawyers and likely able to buy his way out of jail, really what crimes did he actually commit, buying off a Karate judge and injuring a Karate student as his Dojo and I guess framing Kreese, but Kreese is AWOL and not an usable witness? A fight at his house, not too hard to argue self defense. There really is only the tournament in Japan for them to do if there even is a 6th season, and even then seems like they'd drop Miyagi Do at the same time as dropping Cobra Kai from the event.
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Sep 27, 2022 15:23
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:Seems like it would be more likely that Silver would come back instead of Kreese. Kreese just escaped jail, only way he'd come back is if he's somehow ended up at the tournament in Japan. they have him on video beating the crap out of stingray in a not- remotely like a lesson way. Wonder what that does for kreese considering he busted out of jail right when it comes out he didn't do it wait no they don't have the assault on video, never mind
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Sep 27, 2022 17:37
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Finished the latest season last night after stalling on the final 4 episodes for like close to a month. Highlights: -Chozen bringing sais to a nightclub. -The NO MERCY MOTHERFUCKER bait and switch LaRusso did to Kreese in prison with the lawyer phone number.  -Tyron Woodley getting his hand sliced by the missed swing by Silver Goon #4 and then kicked in the face and knocked out cold by Dad Power Johnny  -Penis Breath swapping sides because he was tired of getting called Penis Breath and then immediately being called Penis Breath. That's what you get, Penis Breath. -LaRusso using the Quicksilver Method against Silver and then finishing him with the crane kick. It was pretty much everything I was hoping for in their climactic fight all season. This show from S1 to now has no right being this good. The way it's woven characters and events from all 3 Karate Kid movies into this series is masterful and I can't believe I just typed that. AndyElusive fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Sep 27, 2022 |
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Sep 27, 2022 18:02
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The last season will be about the entire Cobra Kai gang going to Europe, to bail Mike out after he tried to sell a stolen Rembrandt to the vory v zakone.
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Sep 27, 2022 19:11
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I’m halfway through the season, having fun. Chozen beating up Barnes’ employees as a gag was a little over-the-top even for this goofy-rear end show. I thought the swelling dramatic music during a pepper eating competition was a little silly, and then I got to the dramatic water slide race.
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Sep 27, 2022 19:17
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Dr Christmas posted:I’m halfway through the season, having fun. Funny if it turned out Barnes store was burned down by disgruntled employees who weren't expecting to get assaulted by a Japanese karate master and their boss not filing charges or providing proper medical coverage.
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Sep 27, 2022 20:36
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iamsosmrt posted:Funny if it turned out Barnes store was burned down by disgruntled employees who weren't expecting to get assaulted by a Japanese karate master and their boss not filing charges or providing proper medical coverage. Or if that teacher he was talking to on the phone who got pissed that Barnes failed to deliver on his promise of new tables for the school and instead spent all day talking with Daniel and Chozen about Terry Silver and selling Chozen a couch.
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Sep 27, 2022 22:46
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AndyElusive posted:
This is a common sentiment and I feel the same way too. I've wracked my brain trying to come up with an apt comparison and keep drawing a blank. There's a lot of "so bad they're great" movies and tons of really cheesy shows and poo poo that somehow wind up being lovable but CK feels like its own thing to the point that I think it will soon spawn imitators. It's almost its own loving genre at this stage.
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Sep 27, 2022 23:22
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The closest I can think of is Riverdale. They're both absolutely sincere attempts at something inherently silly. The next closest is high drama soaps, but I'm not familiar enough with soaps to say if any have as silly of a premise. Maybe old goons just aren't familiar with all these teen soaps. Maybe it's exactly like pretty little liars.
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Sep 28, 2022 00:26
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I was skeptical about bringing back Chozen but he really did liven up the season. I do wonder what would have happened if Daniel hadn't "struck first" this season and just let Silver be. And I know that's a common refrain, but I feel like outside of some jackassery Terry would have been satisfied lording his superiority over Daniel without going full (literal) scorched earth
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Sep 28, 2022 00:57
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Riverdale has aliens, serial killers, parallel universes and bizarre continuity. It isn’t half as contained within the original as cobra. The main gimmick of cobra is “you can solve many of life‘s problems with karate.”
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Sep 28, 2022 03:34
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Series is going to end with LaRusso sitting on the throne of Cobra Kai in a sort of necromonger chronicals of riddick way, king of the karate world after winning the world championship.
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Sep 28, 2022 03:48
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Goffer posted:Series is going to end with LaRusso sitting on the throne of Cobra Kai in a sort of necromonger chronicals of riddick way, king of the karate world after winning the world championship.
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Goffer posted:Series is going to end with LaRusso sitting on the throne of Cobra Kai in a sort of necromonger chronicals of riddick way, king of the karate world after winning the world championship. We've already referred to Daniel as a New Jersey Shang Tsung in this thread, so that works.
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