PerniciousKnid posted:

I'll stan Nixon not being particularly bad compared to other presidents; like Trump, his badness is more public because he pissed off the wrong powerful also-bad people.

LastInLine posted:

I unironically stan Nixon. Not a great guy for a lot of reasons but when you take into account the competition and just tally the balls and strikes, Tricky Dick comes out better than most and if you ignore ideology and just measure by his efficacy as a politician he doesn't fare too poorly until an admittedly ignoble final defeat.

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Nixon made this callous statement after the National Prayer Breakfast in February 1972, while talking to Chief of Staff Haldeman and Reverend Billy Graham about the Vietnam War.

“Who is more keenly aware than I am that, from a political standpoint, we should have flushed it down the drain three years ago, blamed Johnson and Kennedy?” he asked rhetorically. “Kennedy got us in, Johnson kept us in. I could have blamed them and been the national hero! As Eisenhower was for ending Korea.”

What would Vietnam have looked like if the war had ended earlier? “It wouldn’t have been too bad,” Nixon guessed. “Sure, the North Vietnamese would have probably slaughtered and castrated two million South Vietnamese Catholics, but nobody would have cared.

“These little brown people, so far away,” he continued, “we don’t know them very well, naturally you would say.”

vyelkin posted:

it's okay, you don't actually have to hand it to the guy who bombed tens of thousands of Cambodian civilians to death and sponsored the Pinochet coup

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“I didn’t notice many Jewish names coming back from Vietnam on any of those lists; I don’t know how the hell they avoid it,” he remarked.

When then-Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said, “If [the Soviets] put Jews into gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern,” Nixon concurred. “I know,” he responded. “We can’t blow up the world because of it.” (See the Dec. 11New York Times story for more background.)

A Bakers Cousin posted:

You could say Nixon was...complicated

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

one thing i like about nixon is his pure hatred for the ivies and their academics

A Bakers Cousin posted:

[Muttering] Jesus Christ

silicone thrills posted:

Al Gore and Bill Clinton's tiny running shorts

silicone thrills posted:

Al Gore and Bill Clinton's tiny running shorts

silicone thrills posted:

Al Gore and Bill Clinton's tiny running shorts

War and Pieces posted:

Despite Trump's greater girth Bill will always be the American President with the most "fat kid" energy

paul_soccer12 posted:

One More Fat Nerd posted:

The SNL skit where Phil Hartman as Bill Clinton visits a Mcdonalds while on a diet will live forever in my memory.

My brother and I will still yell out "warlord!" At each other before stealing food.

MD2020 posted:

"There's gonna be a lot of things we won't be telling Mrs. Clinton about"

HootTheOwl posted:

I feel like this is telling on yourself having someone on ignore. That's why you keep missing.

guidoanselmi posted:

Andy Dick got Phil’s wife off the wagon and she ended up killing him as a consequence

christmas boots posted:

then he made a joke about it to Jon Lovitz who then beat him up

Kitfox88 posted:

what happened to Tom Green

paul_soccer12 posted:

What

HootTheOwl posted:

Either you can't count to 40 or something is causing you to miss every time.

Pablo Nergigante posted:

That’s not how the ignore list works

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

yeah about how he was her coke plug and directly was responsible for her murder suicide. my understanding was that jon slapped him upside his head for just being unfunny

andy dick was only ever funny when other people were writing for him

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According to Lovitz, Dick was “complaining” and giving him “a hard time for no reason” before he eventually told him he shouldn’t be there. So, Lovitz replied, “Well, I wouldn’t be here if you hadn’t given Brynn coke in the first place.”

But their words didn’t escalate beyond that. “Later on we made up, and I said ‘I’m sorry I said that,'” Lovitz told [Dennis] Miller. “I realized it really wasn’t his fault. Everything was fine for years.”

Many years after Hartman’s violent death, when a heavily intoxicated Dick visited a restaurant that Lovitz co-owned, he approached the table where the comedian sat with guests and drank their bottles of peach liqueur.

“He’s standing there with liqueur dripping down his chin and he says, ‘I put the Phil Hartman hex on you, you’re the next one to die,'” Lovitz described to Miller. “And he’s smiling, and my blood just went to my head. I wanted to smash him, but if I hit him he would have gone flying into the table behind him.”

So, Lovitz told Dick’s friend to get him out and banned him from the restaurant. But they crossed paths again later. And this time, their confrontation was more than just a conversation.

According to Lovitz’s interview with Miller, he reencountered Dick and expected him to apologize for his behavior in the restaurant. But instead, Dick told him, “Well, you know why I said that? Because you said I killed Phil Hartman. That’s the first thing you said to me when you got on the show.”

“I just lost it, so I grabbed him by the shirt and I pushed him against the wall. And he’s just smiling at me …” the former Saturday Night Live star shared. “I … pushed him really hard and I smashed his back and his head into the bar. And I did it again. I would have kept going, but the doorman broke it up.”

During the interview, Miller described Lovitz as “one of the most loveable, easygoing guys” and said he “loves” the story about Dick. “Good for you my friend,” he concluded.

Kitfox88 posted:

what happened to Tom Green

christmas boots posted:

then he made a joke about it to Jon Lovitz who then beat him up