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Lazyfire posted:They'll work against their own interests because they are worried anything different than what they've always known will somehow be worse than a bad situation. I think there might also be an element not unlike scam victims, where - psychologically, emotionally, subconsciously - the worst possible outcome is having to admit that you were tricked, that you fell for it, and it was all for nothing.
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Volmarias posted:Flying right past WWI with this post, and it was county deputies with private planes. Blair Mountain is important but it's not quite the same, especially since many striking miners chose to surrender to federal troops when they arrived. Weird fact: The US didn't have bombers during WWI. They had fighters and reconnaissance planes, but didn't build bombers until after the war.
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Sep 26, 2022 22:35
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Lazyfire posted:Weird fact: The US didn't have bombers during WWI. They had fighters and reconnaissance planes, but didn't build bombers until after the war. Did anybody have bombers? I thought that they all dropped little bombs by hand from their biplanes.
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Sep 26, 2022 23:23
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Flyball posted:Did anybody have bombers? I thought that they all dropped little bombs by hand from their biplanes. loving Busy Town rear end war
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Sep 26, 2022 23:32
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Flyball posted:Did anybody have bombers? I thought that they all dropped little bombs by hand from their biplanes. The Germans and British (and presumably French but I don't recall offhand) had bombers that could get pretty big for the time; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riesenflugzeug Zeppelins were also famously used by the Germans to bomb the UK. (For all of these the amount of bombs they could carry was pretty small by world war 2 standards let alone today)
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Sep 26, 2022 23:42
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Flyball posted:Did anybody have bombers? I thought that they all dropped little bombs by hand from their biplanes. The first bombing in WWI was a dude dropping hand grenades from a scout plane. Eventually they started making purpose built bombs to release or drop. By the last couple years England and France had started building actual bombers.
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Sep 26, 2022 23:43
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goatface posted:Burn it all down. Don't plan what to do next, provide no foundations to rebuild on. Every scrap of guidance we provide to those who come after increases the risk they just reproduce our failings. Only if they have to start from nothing can they avoid our patterns. Ted Faro alt account spotted.
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Lazyfire posted:The first bombing in WWI was a dude dropping hand grenades from a scout plane. Eventually they started making purpose built bombs to release or drop. By the last couple years England and France had started building actual bombers. The Germans modified Zeppelins for that role. On July 15, 1915 they bombed London. Late in 1916 British planes got enough power to be able to start shooting them down.
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Sep 27, 2022 04:04
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Lazyfire posted:The first bombing in WWI was a dude dropping hand grenades from a scout plane. Eventually they started making purpose built bombs to release or drop. By the last couple years England and France had started building actual bombers. Huh, I wasn't aware that "The last couple years of the war" included 1913 Thomamelas posted:The Germans modified Zeppelins for that role. On July 15, 1915 they bombed London. Late in 1916 British planes got enough power to be able to start shooting them down. The Germans also had regular bombers too, like the Gotha G.I
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RocketMermaid posted:Really tired of brewery owners who put their own convenience and ego over the quality and integrity of the beer, and who value what they overheard as a homebrewer over the input of their brewers who have three decades of professional experience and education between them. Yeah, whatever buddy. Have you considered that maybe they sat through an entire online conference that mentioned yeast autolysis, so that's justification for packaging beer after like two weeks? (A real thing that happened to me)
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Lazyfire posted:The first bombing in WWI was a dude dropping hand grenades from a scout plane. Eventually they started making purpose built bombs to release or drop. By the last couple years England and France had started building actual bombers. We built a bunch of bombers, the most famous is probably the Handley Page Type 0 which was so popular that Handley Page became shorthand for 'large plane'. We had bombers early in the war but the first time we did strategic bombing was essentially 1915 with the most used ones like the de Havilland DH-4 coming in 1916.
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Here comes the part of shutting down a plant I was dreading. They decided 3rd shift is going to run one chipmounter line and wave solder until we close in April, everyone else goes and does busywork all night. 2nd is going to run the opposite CM line and wave and do the same. 1st is going to run full-capacity. Evidently they have talked to 1st and 2nd about absorbing 3rd but have yet to mention it to 3rd. One of my coworkers asked me which shift I'd pick when it inevitably happens, and I had to think about it for a minute. I ended up telling her, "I can barely stand working with anyone on either of those shifts save 4 people for 15 minutes a day, I'm not coming to work at 5:30AM, and either one basically means my girlfriend and I never see each other again until this place shuts down." When it comes time to move, I'm going to ask my boss for a layoff before I make a decision between utterly loving my life up and turbofucking my life up, especially since whichever one I choose, I lose my diff, take a giant paycut and destroy my home life. I've worked there for 3 years, next-newest person is at 6, so hopefully my severance is low-stakes enough that they just do it considering most of the people left are 20+. MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Sep 27, 2022 |
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Sep 27, 2022 14:37
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logged in, saw myself tagged in at least a dozen emails, had a teams message that they got rid of the final project manager (meaning I now have to handle the very pissy construction vendors), logged the gently caress back out and put in the pto request. not today
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Sep 27, 2022 14:46
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Been at my new job over 3 months now and have been using the same shirt/slacks rotation the whole time. Suddenly yesterday, one of my shirts was in violation of the dress code out of nowhere. They've seen me wear this particular at least a dozen times but now for some reason it's a problem. This was Monday and on the heels of one one of my supervisors actually complimenting me on how I dress and "how I present myself". Middle managers just like to FIND poo poo to bitch about, IME, no matter what the job is. We have brief pre shift meetings every morning too and you know what you'll never hear during one of them? "Welp, you guys are doing fine so not much to cover here. Keep it up". And again, they bring up one or two things where I'm like "who the gently caress did THAT?" and rather than address the culprit(s), we all get to hear the negative comment. Oh yeah, had my 90 day review too and got good marks but on a 1 to 3 scale I was rated a 2 on "teamwork" which was the only one I took exception to. I asked them for examples or if any supervisors or coworkers ever mentioned me as difficult to work with or unwilling to help out or pitch in and they had nothing. Truth is, they don't even KNOW so they just marked me average. Everything else was fair enough.
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Sep 27, 2022 23:08
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BiggerBoat posted:Middle managers just like to FIND poo poo to bitch about, IME, no matter what the job is. To quote pre-insanity Scott Adams, "Measure they must, because that is what sets managers apart from other organic matter."
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Sep 27, 2022 23:27
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Its an open secret: any method that has a composite score but limits the amount of any number of people getting certain scores makes managers just work backwards from the composite score they want to give you. Anything else is just more work when HR comes back and says you have too many people above average. This results in random wacky scores for things the manager is just trying to juice the number on.
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Welp just got my first "final notice warning", which reads like the front office maggot being a whiny marshmallo and complaining Im "unnaproachable and offputting". Oh and apprently theres all these complaints in the customer serveys that I have, even though zero of them mention me by name at all. Sounds like its time for me to gtfo before these fuckers shitcan me. Amusingly I have only been written up like once before for equally bullshit reasons.
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DreadUnknown posted:Welp just got my first "final notice warning", which reads like the front office maggot being a whiny marshmallo and complaining Im "unnaproachable and offputting". Oh and apprently theres all these complaints in the customer serveys that I have, even though zero of them mention me by name at all. Sounds like its time for me to gtfo before these fuckers shitcan me. Amusingly I have only been written up like once before for equally bullshit reasons. Traditionally "unapproachable" means "pushes back on accusations of other stuff". That said, if they don't want you there, and you don't like being there, best to find somewhere that's better for you? I may be biased, though. I try to achieve a certain low level of actual unapproachability at work so that people with trivial problems find it easier to look elsewhere.
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Three weeks ago: "What? Impossible! They need to meet the order date, even if they didn't know it was issued until last week!" Two weeks ago: "I don't know why we would issue that order in the first place! Who authorized that? " Today: "cancel it! Also get me a quote for quantities 19, 36 and 53." From " we're all going to die" to not believing in death two weeks later. Dude almost accidentally ordered $80k in parts with no known use and got mad at me for not killing the order while he had an internal debate on if he needed the parts after all.
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Atopian posted:I may be biased, though. I try to achieve a certain low level of actual unapproachability at work so that people with trivial problems find it easier to look elsewhere.  unfortunetly tech being the way it is being able to learn how to diagnose things means you're instantly the most (or possibly only) competent person to go ask
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My sister works for the local branch of a big nonprofit. Her boss wanted to hold a sort of memorial for the one year anniversary for her husband’s death, and this involves the organization for some reason, I don’t remember why. He was Italian or Italian-American, so she wants to call it “a Goombah Affair.” So my sister is sitting at planning sessions for “A Goombah affair.” My sister says she was unaware of the word being a pejorative, and also didn’t remember that there were Mario baddies called that until I mentioned it, but she didn’t like saying it because she thought it sounded dumb. She would refer to it as an Italian-American party or something like that, but her boss would correct her, “No, it’s a Goombah Affair.” Anyway, someone somewhere raised complaints about a derogatory term, and there was a teensy bit of fallout, but nothing really resulted from it.
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stories from non-profits will never not amaze me, just management failsons all the way down
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Agents are GO! posted:To quote pre-insanity Scott Adams, "Measure they must, because that is what sets managers apart from other organic matter." I'm manager, and I approve this message
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BiggerBoat posted:Been at my new job over 3 months now and have been using the same shirt/slacks rotation the whole time. Suddenly yesterday, one of my shirts was in violation of the dress code out of nowhere. They've seen me wear this particular at least a dozen times but now for some reason it's a problem. This was Monday and on the heels of one one of my supervisors actually complimenting me on how I dress and "how I present myself". You can’t just leave this comment without showing us a picture of the shirt
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Is it that "anime women enjoying themselves" shirt made famous by memes?
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Atopian posted:Is it that "anime women enjoying themselves" shirt made famous by memes? Showing up to the Zoom meeting in full ahegao shirt, pants, hoodie and ball cap 
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Sep 28, 2022 09:52
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Its the power tie for the 21st century
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Scientastic posted:You can’t just leave this comment without showing us a picture of the shirt Looks like this https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61BDqHvmhGL._AC_UX569_.jpg
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Vibrant colour in the workplace?! Scandalous! Peon, you should be wearing a white or grey shirt at all times to show your broken spirit and subservience!
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Sep 28, 2022 10:57
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Ban this filth.
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“That shirt is a gang color.” —BB’s boss, probably
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Nehru collars are fundamentally un-American.
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Platystemon posted:“That shirt is a gang color.” AFAICT, it has something to do with the collar; or lack thereof. So whatever I guess but the shirt looks fine to me and (almost) everyone else. The bug up my rear end is why it's suddenly an issue now after wearing it probably 10 times over three months And poo poo like this opens up the thing where now I'm scratching my head wondering why Ian can wear a big Axl Rose headband, Julie can put on a big head scarf (she's not Muslim btw) or Alan can have a nose ring or whatever. Mind you, I don't give a gently caress what they wear but it leads to me feeling singled out. What I'm saying is I think it's loving stupid and I like my shirt. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 12:01 on Sep 28, 2022 |
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drat, I'm good.
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Looks like jammies, wouldn't want workers feeling too comfortable on the clock, they might start thinking they're human
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BiggerBoat posted:AFAICT, it has something to do with the collar; or lack thereof. So whatever I guess but the shirt looks fine to me and (almost) everyone else. It’s got a collar. It’s a banded collar.
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Platystemon posted:It’s got a collar. It’s a banded collar. Sure, if I wanted to die on this hill I could start making noise about how the dress code policy says "collared shirt" and that technically that IS a collar but how far do I wanna take this, really? Just to be passive aggressive about it, yesterday I wore the largest collared shirt I own. It's like some pirate poo poo almost. Kinda looks like this https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51zsg3uztaL._AC_UX679_.jpg Maybe I'll get me some 70's disco shirts from a thrift store and get all Starsky about it. That'll show em. Anxiously awaiting the whole "no, not THAT MUCH collar" conversation where I pretend to be deeply confused about the matter. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Sep 28, 2022 |
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Ah, yes. The nuclear option. God, I feel like Mattingly not trimming his sideburns
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Haha. Wow. I assumed it was a like a naked hula girl pattern or something, how can anyone object to that?
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