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Doctor Spaceman posted:The world isn't going to be fixed by a bunch of old people. The world would fix itself without humanity.
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Sep 26, 2022 20:07
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It has worth because humanity.
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Byzantine posted:The world would fix itself without humanity. So start fixing it if that's what you really think
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Sep 26, 2022 20:13
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"I'm feeling the guilt of existence!" - the only things capable of feeling that
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Manager Hoyden posted:A baby born in any place they can sit around reading SA posts is going to have largely the same life your generation did. My man they have the internet in poor countries too
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Sep 26, 2022 20:27
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Dividing the world into basically fine first world countries where everybody is doing OK, and countries from the UNICEF ads where everybody spends all their time starving to death and wishing the people from the good countries would donate money so they could build a well, it's both inaccurate and racist.
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Sep 26, 2022 20:29
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Gripweed posted:My man they have the internet in poor countries too Yeah you're right Just oodles of goons posting from Pakistan and Sub-Saharan Africa
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Climate disasters are increasing. At the same time, the US government's ability/willingness to respond to disasters is declining. If you think that the the mere fact that someone lives in the USA means they are safe from ever having to live in a climate refugee camp, the next decade is going to be pretty surprising for you.
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Gripweed posted:If you think that the the mere fact that someone lives in the USA means they are safe from ever having to live in a climate refugee camp, the next decade is going to be pretty surprising for you. This is straight up delusional Like not even slightly grounded in any kind of reality, not even if you squint at it just right. Where in the world are you getting the idea that you are going to live in a climate refugee camp? Like what was the actual fact that you read/saw that made your brain form this idea?
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lol if you don't think the US government will fiddle around in the inevitable wars started over water and displaced people around the world and then get caught up and institute a draft or some poo poo
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Manager Hoyden posted:Yeah you're right Ok serious question do you think people in Pakistan don't have the internet. Manager Hoyden posted:This is straight up delusional Look at Puerto Rico. Like seriously, look into of the news coming out of Puerto Rico right now. Increased disasters combined with reduced government response. It's inevitable that parts of the mainland US will get the Puerto Rico experience in the coming years.
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Gripweed posted:Ok serious question do you think people in Pakistan don't have the internet. I was just suggesting that SA is overwhelmingly peopled with residents of NA and Europe. Gripweed posted:Look at Puerto Rico. Like seriously, look into of the news coming out of Puerto Rico right now. Increased disasters combined with reduced government response. It's inevitable that parts of the mainland US will get the Puerto Rico experience in the coming years. Puerto Rico has been in the lane of major hurricanes for all of recorded history, including many stronger ones. You could have pointed to PR at any time in the last hundred years and said the same thing. No part of the mainland US will get the Puerto Rico experience in the coming years. One thing you can always, always count on is doomsday prophets telling you the world is about to end. They were dumb five hundred years ago and they are even dumber now. Yeah, climate change is like the number one priority for us as a species, but the world isn't ending any time soon. I wonder how many people thinking the boogeyman is about to get them have untreated anxiety disorders.
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The world didn't end when that asteroid slammed into the Yucatan either, but the dinosaurs still had a bad time.
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Manager Hoyden posted:I was just suggesting that SA is overwhelmingly peopled with residents of NA and Europe. The problem is not that Puerto Rico got hit by a hurricane, the problem is that the scam company hired to repair the electrical grid after the last hurricane didn't do a good job. So now the entire island is out of power once again with no timetable for when it will be back. That kinda poo poo is coming to the rest of the country. Look at Jacksonville, where the drinking water is dark brown and toxic. There's no plan to fix that either. The ability of the United States government to provide basic services, electricity, water, and sewage, to the people is breaking down. And the increase in natural disasters means that the currently existing systems are going to keep breaking. It will take longer and longer to repair them, the quality of the repairs will get worse and break again, and the number of places that are tacitly just given up on will increase. That doesn't mean the world is ending. Not at all. The world will keep going on and you will keep living in it. But it will get worse, and you will have to deal with that.
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Well, agree to disagree I suppose, but just so you know...Gripweed posted:But it will get worse, and you will have to deal with that. I will not have to deal with that and neither will you.
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Sep 26, 2022 21:24
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Okay everyone, let's have your unpopular opinions on which cheese is the all-around best. I'll start: it's mozzarella, obviously.
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Blue cheese. F_Shit_Fitzgerald has a new favorite as of 15:45 on Sep 27, 2022 |
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Sep 26, 2022 21:32
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it's muenster one day we'll all be huddled around the oil drum reminiscing about when we had muenster to eat and not just rat cheese
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Vermont cheddar if we're talking limited availability That Dubliner cheese that Kerrygold sells if we're talking about stuff you can buy anywhere Manager Hoyden has a new favorite as of 22:25 on Sep 26, 2022 |
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Sep 26, 2022 21:43
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Camembert. Caveat: I've not had the real poo poo that they can't ship out of France, I can only imagine that's somehow better.
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Sep 26, 2022 22:24
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Manager Hoyden posted:This is the most peaceful and secure time to be a human being in the history of the species, with some ups and downs on a short-term scale You understand that nuclear threats have been made within the past week, right? At this point, I'd feel lucky to be around long enough to be taken out by climate change.
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Not nuclear threats! Truly an absolutely unique and novel thing to happen, especially between Russia and the US.
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Maybe but also maybe people should wait for bad things to happen before they say those bad things are happening, especially if they don't have any power to stop said thing even if it was an imminent threat I mean are you actively preparing for a nuclear strike to your living room? If you believe it is going to happen, why aren't you?
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Manager Hoyden posted:Maybe but also maybe people should wait for bad things to happen before they say those bad things are happening, especially if they don't have any power to stop said thing even if it was an imminent threat EDIT: I'm just mad that you're probably right. And excuse me, my anxiety disorder is perfectly treated thank you! Disco Pope has a new favorite as of 23:47 on Sep 26, 2022 |
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Manager Hoyden posted:One thing you can always, always count on is doomsday prophets telling you the world is about to end. They were dumb five hundred years ago and they are even dumber now. Yeah, climate change is like the number one priority for us as a species, but the world isn't ending any time soon. I wonder how many people thinking the boogeyman is about to get them have untreated anxiety disorders. Yeah there is something in the lizard portion of the human brain which psychologically draws people to these stories. For similar example, history is littered with people claiming that 'We are going to run out of resource X!' and they almost always get it wrong.
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Nuclear winter will cancel out global warming, at least.
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Makes you almost wish...
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Bleu cheese. Manager Hoyden posted:I mean are you actively preparing for a nuclear strike to your living room? If you believe it is going to happen, why aren't you? 
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Tiggum posted:How? Do you really need to ask this? If you actually, truly believed that your death by nuclear fire was imminent, you would tear rear end to another part of the world. You'd drop your job and at least take your family and loved ones to the wilderness away from any targets you could think of
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Most people who are like that just end up killing their family and then themselves. You know, as you do.
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Manager Hoyden posted:Do you really need to ask this? If you actually, truly believed that your death by nuclear fire was imminent, you would tear rear end to another part of the world. You'd drop your job and at least take your family and loved ones to the wilderness away from any targets you could think of Mate, what? "Just move if you think things will get worse!" is like some supreme levels of "things can't actually get that bad" ideas. I understand it, but having hope that things can get better does not mean they will.
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Josef bugman posted:Mate, what? I know you have certain things that you (general you, not you personally) are semiconciously waiting to hear so you can make an argument you've had prepared and used before What you read was "if you think your situation is bad, just move"; something the slimier of economic liberals tend to say. And of course the response is something along the lines of "not everyone can move". That would be applicable if we were talking about something like jobs, wage stagnation or bad infrastructure or culture degradation. We're not. We're talking about imminent death. Whether a person believes they are about to die due to something they believe is about to happen. Replace "nuclear war" with something like "a guy with a shotgun". If you honestly believed a guy with a shotgun was coming to shotgun you and your family to death, you wouldn't say "hmm well my family needs me and also it costs a lot to move so I'm gonna stay". You would run. Everyone would run. But that's not happening is it? You can conclude one of two things from this: The person does not actually believe nuclear war is imminent OR the person believes nuclear war is imminent and wants to die (or at least believes their lives and the lives of their loved ones are not worth preservation)
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Third conclusion: there's nowhere to run.
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Personally I hope it gets everybody except me. Barring that: https://youtu.be/frAEmhqdLFs
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Manager Hoyden posted:But that's not happening is it? You can conclude one of two things from this: The person does not actually believe nuclear war is imminent OR the person believes nuclear war is imminent and wants to die (or at least believes their lives and the lives of their loved ones are not worth preservation) You can't move from imminent death in the case of full blown nuclear war. You would probably be better off running toward the mushroom cloud at that particular point because life is only going to get less fun and possibly more painful from here on out. A guy with a shotgun is a single threat, not the end of the world as we know it. Its a more immediate and, to put it bluntly, solvable problem. It's the same idea as the one you have about climate change "ultimately it's something we can deal with" is only possible if you ignore a tonne of stuff around the way that scientists are talking about it. The idea that all of our problems can be solved and it's just doom saying to posit otherwise is not necessarily accurate.
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Do you believe nuclear bombs are a thing that will destroy an entire planet, like in a sci-fi movie or something?
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Manager Hoyden posted:Do you believe nuclear bombs are a thing that will destroy an entire planet, like in a sci-fi movie or something? No. Do I believe that it will mean the end of any world I can comfortably survive in, on a country that is small enough that nowhere will not be irradiated? Yes. I gave up the idea I could survive the destruction of the means by which I have food and water a while back.
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nuke chat is deeply tedious because there's always several people who have never looked at a map of projected fallout impact. if you cannot afford to move to chile that's valid but it is the concrete possibility being raised, goonsire
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Literally yesterday Manager Hoyden was saying that weather disasters don't happen to white people countries and today a hurricane is currently on course to cause historic destruction to Tampa. Manager Hoyden I desperately need you to stop saying nuclear war isn't imminent
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