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Harrow posted:Whoa, why's it so high? Is this counting all of the announced events and stuff?
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Sanctum posted:What does cyno even do? I'm going to be wishing on him but all I know is spear+electro and he's like a jaffa guard from stargate or something idk No Wave posted:I am legit proud of this one
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It's kind of funny that Kuki Shinobu was designed to be the perfect hyperbloom activator before players knew hyperbloom existed, it just took until 3.0 for people to realize the only reason she wasn't good was because the reaction she was made to work with wasn't implemented yet.
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Sanctum posted:the only distinction Shinobu has is that Fischl/Beidou/Raiden can't heal.
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Sep 27, 2022 18:35
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My main issue with Shinobu as a healer is that you have to switch to a damaged character to heal them (including Shinobu herself, who takes guaranteed damage from using her skill). But since she can't really do much useful aside from her skill, that time healing herself is basically "wasted." Bennett has a somewhat similar situation (with the healing element to his burst), but his heal is far more powerful so you only need to let characters experience 1 or 2 ticks to get them healed up to its cap. Is there some way around this? Kale posted:Playing more Honkai Impact 3 yesterday it just has a massive number of currencies like a more typical gacha game to the point where it's just kind of overwhelming and off putting really. Yeah, I basically disengaged from HI3's gacha beyond just throwing what current I got at whatever character banner was active. I guess the trade-off is that they make more money from the long-term player whales even if it discourages any new players from engaging with the system.
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It's not too big a deal at the moment because the relevant dendro characters are off field and xingqiu is off field so there's no real harm keeping cookie on field to heal. Dont get me wrong I still died a lot on 12-3-1 that floor is freaking aggressive, it's definitely a major downside of the character.
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Ytlaya posted:My main issue with Shinobu as a healer is that you have to switch to a damaged character to heal them (including Shinobu herself, who takes guaranteed damage from using her skill). But since she can't really do much useful aside from her skill, that time healing herself is basically "wasted." The secret is you don't actually want to heal Shinobu. She gets benefits for being below 30% HP and you only ever have to bring her out for a second to pop her skill. As long as you are a little conscious of what's going on and don't try to swap to her in the middle of a lot of poo poo she's fine just being at critical HP forever.
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Sep 27, 2022 18:54
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Still hoping to pull her, but using her during the Fayz Trials gave me anxiety. I don't like seeing the red HP.
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Sep 27, 2022 19:11
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at this point as much as i really want nahida i also want cyno and am going to pull for him. my logic on this is that it feels like archons get reruns faster than regular characters do (and more often) so i'd be better off going for a character i want that'll be less frequent 
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Sep 27, 2022 19:25
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Mix. posted:at this point as much as i really want nahida i also want cyno and am going to pull for him. my logic on this is that it feels like archons get reruns faster than regular characters do (and more often) so i'd be better off going for a character i want that'll be less frequent I’m beginning to feel this, too.
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I have to share this with someone because I'm so excited that I got two really good artifacts in a row for Ayato and now I finally have crit stats on him that I can look at and smile He's my first character that I'd say is actually built almost exactly how I want him and I'm really excited. There's still room to improve--I think the most realistic possible improvement would be a double crit flower, and I need to finish leveling his E and Q talents--but otherwise these artifacts seem pretty good (did I need to level 90 him? no. do I regret it? also no) Harrow fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Sep 27, 2022 |
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Sep 27, 2022 19:27
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Harrow posted:It's kind of funny that Kuki Shinobu was designed to be the perfect hyperbloom activator before players knew hyperbloom existed, it just took until 3.0 for people to realize the only reason she wasn't good was because the reaction she was made to work with wasn't implemented yet. Kinda like how every idiot Genshin content creator on the internet acted offended at how 'bad' Kokomi was when she was released, most insisting that she was worse than even Amber. Until the meta changed, new artifact sets came out, etc.
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Sep 27, 2022 19:29
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Harrow posted:It's kind of funny that Kuki Shinobu was designed to be the perfect hyperbloom activator before players knew hyperbloom existed, it just took until 3.0 for people to realize the only reason she wasn't good was because the reaction she was made to work with wasn't implemented yet. yaemiko.txt
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Sep 27, 2022 19:31
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Kazuha being compared at all (let alone unfavorably) to C6 Sucrose was a bigger joke. And Kokomi was already good on release. Clam is nice and all, but she didn't need it to be viable.
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BabyRyoga posted:Kinda like how every idiot Genshin content creator on the internet acted offended at how 'bad' Kokomi was when she was released, most insisting that she was worse than even Amber. Until the meta changed, new artifact sets came out, etc. frankly neither of those things even happened, kokomi was just a good unit, end of sentence. if anything shes gotten slightly worse over time due to more healer and hydro options.
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Sep 27, 2022 19:34
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Saying kuki was not strong on release was the correct take. It's not a reproach towards mihoyo to say something that is currently true, and there are 4 stars who have been out for years whose kits still do not fit the game's mechanics.
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Yeah I'm not saying people were being stupid for writing off Shinobu on her release. Nobody could possibly have known that a new reaction in a future patch would make her good all of a sudden. You can only really work with the information you have about the game state as it currently exists when you're evaluating a character, after all.
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I think people underestimated the convenience of a heal with 100% uptime and no confined AoE but otherwise yeah Shinobu wasn't particularly impactful on her release.
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Endorph posted:frankly neither of those things even happened, kokomi was just a good unit, end of sentence. if anything shes gotten slightly worse over time due to more healer and hydro options. 'Worse than amber' is exaggerating, but she was most definitely clowned on, or at the very least undervalued to hell. Clam probably wouldn't have even been made if there were no backlash. quote:I feel like there is a giant train that bashing on kokomi being trash
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BabyRyoga posted:Kinda like how every idiot [...] content creator on the internet acted offended Bad faith is how things are. 
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Kuki was really good before dendro, but only on a couple of teams. She’s just way more useful now
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YoshiOfYellow posted:I think people underestimated the convenience of a heal with 100% uptime and no confined AoE but otherwise yeah Shinobu wasn't particularly impactful on her release. Is it just that it procs faster than Qiqi's or is there another bigger upside to hers that I'm not thinking of?
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RareAcumen posted:Is it just that it procs faster than Qiqi's or is there another bigger upside to hers that I'm not thinking of? Qiqi's is only a 50% up time, or is there a gimmick I'm not aware of? I also like Qiqi as a healer though, so I might be a weirdo here.
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RareAcumen posted:Is it just that it procs faster than Qiqi's or is there another bigger upside to hers that I'm not thinking of? it's that qiqi is kinda useless besides her heal and kuki actually does useful reaction stuff on top of it although nowadays qiqi can be build for damage with clam stuff i guess
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I'd really like to get C2 Shinobu but unless I get super lucky I'll probably just be content with C0 for now. Cyno seems cool and I don't have Venti but I feel like I should be saving for Nahida.
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Harrow posted:I'd really like to get C2 Shinobu but unless I get super lucky I'll probably just be content with C0 for now. Cyno seems cool and I don't have Venti but I feel like I should be saving for Nahida. This is basically where I'm at, but I'm gonna pull for Candace on Venti's banner anyways. I'm hopin that I'll end up with enough wishes from going through desert stuff/events by the time Nahida comes around
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Just saw a leaked pic of Nahida doing "camera hands" during her E  instapull
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gandlethorpe posted:Just saw a leaked pic of Nahida doing "camera hands" during her E instant C6
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I'm tossing 20 on Venti's banner just to hope I get a Candace or Kuki cons. Sayu would be fine too since I don't have her. Still a dumb idea to do so since I am going after Nilou and her sword but 
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Coolness Averted posted:Qiqi's is only a 50% up time, or is there a gimmick I'm not aware of? I also like Qiqi as a healer though, so I might be a weirdo here. RPATDO_LAMD posted:it's that qiqi is kinda useless besides her heal and kuki actually does useful reaction stuff on top of it Oh, you guys mean cooldown on uses. Okay fair enough.
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When can I roll for sumeru archon lady
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when the hell is this supposed to be up
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Nyoro posted:When can I roll for sumeru archon lady Next patch, so five more weeks.
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frajaq posted:when the hell is this supposed to be up Patches typically go live ~7pm PT
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Eimi posted:Next patch, so five more weeks. Cool! I already have a guaranteed 5 waiting in the wings so time to farm some gemmy gems
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gandlethorpe posted:'Worse than amber' is exaggerating, but she was most definitely clowned on, or at the very least undervalued to hell.
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Do we know if this patch will provide enough dendroculi to C6 dendro traveler?
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This convo made me realize that even if there were a cryo equivalent to hyperbloom, Qiqi would still be mediocre due to bad cooldowns  Mhy, please throw this kid a bone some day.
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MoonCrab posted:This convo made me realize that even if there were a cryo equivalent to hyperbloom, Qiqi would still be mediocre due to bad cooldowns Maybe she'll have weird synergy with the pharmacist dude when they add him.
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Coolness Averted posted:Maybe she'll have weird synergy with the pharmacist dude when they add him. wow how dare you do Baizhu dirty like that
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