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War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

AnimeIsTrash posted:

There were a few other people like him. Quirked up white boys going to the orient to join the sikhs is very funny.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Gardner_(soldier)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Harlan

pisspig great grandad

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/HuntClancy/status/1573379117080543237

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

AnimeIsTrash posted:

There were a few other people like him. Quirked up white boys going to the orient to join the sikhs is very funny.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Gardner_(soldier)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Harlan

It was a legit common thing in the subcontinent. The Mughal empire at it's high noon had a bunch of european artillery officers, venetian craftsmen etc. The portuguese literally fought an alliance of the Ottoman empire, Mughal empire and the Venetian republic to secure their toehold in southern and western india.

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous
For whatever reason, a bunch of women from USA and Britain came to the Balkans for the same reason. I used to remember the names of a bunch, there was one who kept joining various guerillas and flip-flopping between wanting Serbs genocided to 'solve' the Balkans and wanting Albanians genocided to 'solve' the Balkans.

The ones I do remember are relatively recent in comparison:
Flora Sandes, who is probably the sanest of the bunch (probably due to not actually being a weirdo war tourist adventurer for the most part), she was deployed here as a nurse during WW1 and joined the army of Serbia as a combatant at the request of a Serbian commander.
Ruth Mitchell (her brother was USA brigadier general Billy Mitchell, and her granddad was a robber baron), who joined the Chetniks in WW2

Tankbuster posted:

The portuguese literally fought an alliance of the Ottoman empire, Mughal empire and the Venetian republic to secure their toehold in southern and western india.

Fun fact: The Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire during the Ottoman campaign to Sumatra (to support the Aceh Sultanate in the conflict with the Portugese) was a Serbian janissary, Mehmed Pasha Sokolovic.

my dad has issued a correction as of 10:40 on Sep 24, 2022

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

that rules, I never really thought about the ottomans in the indian ocean

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

my dad posted:

The ones I do remember are relatively recent in comparison:
Flora Sandes, who is probably the sanest of the bunch (probably due to not actually being a weirdo war tourist adventurer for the most part), she was deployed here as a nurse during WW1 and joined the army of Serbia as a combatant at the request of a Serbian commander.

What the hell, she was a hardcore royalist, she also married an officer of the whites.

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous

AnimeIsTrash posted:

What the hell, she was a hardcore royalist, she also married an officer of the whites.

That's how low the bar is for "sanest of the bunch".

e: Like, just the fact that she was in the Serbian army at the request of the Serbian army instead of "yeeeehaw, adventure time, let's shoot up some locals" puts her waaaaay above the rest the pack.

e2: I really lack a sufficient vocabulary to adequately describe just how nuts the victorian era psychos showing up here were.

my dad has issued a correction as of 17:11 on Sep 24, 2022

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/jeff_kaye/status/1573446269728542720

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Military adventurers have existed always, and they're never well adjusted folks. Here's a nice quote from the Wikipedia article about the Rhodesian volunteers

quote:

Another strategy used to address white manpower shortages was seeking white volunteers from outside the country, which the Rhodesian government began doing in 1973.[21][26] Men with previous military experience, and especially service in wars, were preferred. It was expected that most of the volunteers for the security forces would not settle in Rhodesia.[21]

From the mid-1970s the Rhodesian government began placing advertisements seeking volunteers in the international media. Due to the sanctions against Rhodesia, these ads were generally lodged via front organisations and were vague about the country the volunteers would serve in. The Rhodesian government openly advertised in the American Soldier of Fortune magazine during 1975.[27] This magazine had been established that year to promote mercenary opportunities, and provided a positive portrayal of the lifestyle available to mercenaries. Its editor was a strong supporter of the white Rhodesian cause and wanted to encourage Americans to fight for Rhodesia.[28] Advertisements were also placed in other American magazines, including Shotgun News and Shooting Times.[29] Some ads described service in Rhodesia as "fun".[30] The ads and other coverage of Rhodesia in Soldier of Fortune led to a "steady stream of volunteers".[31][32]

The Rhodesian Security Forces' recruitment staff responded to people who wrote letters of inquiry after reading the advertisements. These letters were closely scrutinised, as many of the men who had written them were considered "obviously nuts" by the Rhodesian Army's recruitment officer Major Nick Lamprecht.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/jeff_kaye/status/1573743644699283456

Fish of hemp
Apr 1, 2011

A friendly little mouse!
IIRC Rhodesia was a real hot spot for Vietnam vets. Many of whom were angry about the civil rights movement. "Fun" mission indeed.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/lesleymmblume/status/1574167625491369984

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/jeff_kaye/status/1574109356567584768

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011





https://phys.org/news/2022-09-expansion-capitalism-deterioration-human-welfare.html

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
You don't have to link the press releases, that article is open access and free for anyone to read. It's good, too.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X22002169

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/gumby4christ/status/1574424941415497728

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
She was a spy for the union army during the civil war. Only took her like 40 years afterwards to get a pension for it.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
I'm trying to think of all the military advances the French gave us and so far I have

1. Canned food
2. Superfiring battleship turrets
3. The turreted tank
4. The machine gun
5. Giving a poo poo about your country

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

They fielded the world's first mass produced, actually useful smokeless powder rifle

They fielded the world's first light machine gun going by tactical definition

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I'm trying to think of all the military advances the French gave us and so far I have

1. Canned food
2. Superfiring battleship turrets
3. The turreted tank
4. The machine gun
5. Giving a poo poo about your country

Levée en masse count?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Slavvy posted:

They fielded the world's first mass produced, actually useful smokeless powder rifle

They fielded the world's first light machine gun going by tactical definition

also the flintlock and I suppose the bayonet

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

They were the first Europeans to use aviation I think (balloons)

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

wiki said they fielded the first bicycle troops a year before the brits

also lol

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

HashtagGirlboss posted:

Levée en masse count?

Yes and also bikes and balloons

French knew how to war

Falukorv
Jun 23, 2013

A funny little mouse!
not strictly military but the first successful use of a car as a robbery getaway vehicle was French, in 1911.

the first ever was in the US two years prior but they got caught immediately.

edit: misremembered, initially wrote first ever car getaway which isn’t true, but being the first to live up to the name and actually make a getaway isn’t to bad

Falukorv has issued a correction as of 04:53 on Sep 28, 2022

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
The Russians and British could not have put down Napoleon without their German allies, and they would never ever ever forget their contributions or be ungrateful in any way

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Falukorv posted:

not strictly military but the first use of a car as a robbery getaway vehicle was French

they’re always looking for a quick way to retreat

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I'm trying to think of all the military advances the French gave us and so far I have

1. Canned food
2. Superfiring battleship turrets
3. The turreted tank
4. The machine gun
5. Giving a poo poo about your country

Napoleon invented the corps as a method of organizing his forces.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Stairmaster posted:

Napoleon invented the corps as a method of organizing his forces.
He was a Corsican though.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

He was a Corsican though.

Not this, please

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
If you play EU4, you know how loving good the French are at war.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I'm trying to think of all the military advances the French gave us and so far I have

1. Canned food
2. Superfiring battleship turrets
3. The turreted tank
4. The machine gun
5. Giving a poo poo about your country

Standardized weights and measures did a lot for artillery accuracy and logistics train. Cannonball, spare parts etc

With that comes the grand battery.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/Journal_Iti/status/1574559011873095698

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Orange Devil posted:

Standardized weights and measures did a lot for artillery accuracy and logistics train. Cannonball, spare parts etc

With that comes the grand battery.

Just thinking of all the different calibers of weapons and all the different train gauges the Confederacy had in the ACW.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I'm trying to think of all the military advances the French gave us and so far I have

1. Canned food
2. Superfiring battleship turrets
3. The turreted tank
4. The machine gun
5. Giving a poo poo about your country

élan-as-military-power-levels

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
le pantalon rouge

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

Don't forget throwing prisoners out of helicopters along with a shitload of other modern atrocities in Algeria.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I'm trying to think of all the military advances the French gave us and so far I have

1. Canned food
2. Superfiring battleship turrets
3. The turreted tank
4. The machine gun
5. Giving a poo poo about your country

Artillery hydraulic recoil so you don't have to aim the gun again after firing.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
Driving trucks of manure and spraying them on politician's buildings.

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Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
Also the Joker.

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