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Wingnut Ninja posted:Though right now I'm rolling the dice and drinking a cup of boat coffee. Makes my tongue tingle a little. And that's different from normal mess deck/wardroom coffee how?
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Wingnut Ninja posted:https://taskandpurpose.com/news/navy-uss-nimitz-water-contamination/?amp I’m not actually joking when I say I could tell by taste if it was JP5 or DFM that went into the water intakes during unrep.
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orange juche posted:Aren't Zebra doors supposed to be open except in cases of setting material condition Zebra/GQ? Zebra doors are doors normally kept open in order to facilitate normal traffic of personnel and materials. I'd be mighty loving pissed if someone dogged all the zebra doors on the main deck and we weren't at GQ. Wibla posted:
There is also a material condition "Modified Zebra" that came into vogue shortly after COLE because we might be attacked at any moment don't ya know? Basically it's closing a bunch of structural fittings, especially larger hatches, in order to make setting actual Zebra faster in an emergency. The Mod Z list is generally determined by the individual command and can vary from ship to ship. Now adays it's normal to set Mod Z any time you're underway, or in port at elevated FPCON. Without knowing what ship the OP is talking about it's possible that people are blowing through Mod Z doors and the command has done a lovely job of communicating that to the crew.
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Doesn't Mod Z have a different marking? I've been out for way longer than I was in at this point, my memory on this is fuzzy to say the least 
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Wingnut Ninja posted:https://taskandpurpose.com/news/navy-uss-nimitz-water-contamination/?amp I'm glad that things like this, living conditions on the Bush, and the Connecticut bed bug incident require sailors leaking information to the media to fix, or "fix". I guess the moral of the story is have Navy times on speed dial? This poo poo pisses me off.
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Elviscat posted:I'm glad that things like this, living conditions on the Bush, and the Connecticut bed bug incident require sailors leaking information to the media to fix, or "fix". It's very simple. gently caress The Navy.
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Wibla posted:Doesn't Mod Z have a different marking? I've been out for way longer than I was in at this point, my memory on this is fuzzy to say the least Not officially, to my knowledge, because it's ship designed. It would be smart to implement it and no inspector's going to get mad that there's a dot next to some of the Zebra doors, but it would also require thorough onboarding and maintenance of that knowledge piece--USS WHOEVER does it, but people didn't learn it in basic and even senior personnel from USS SOMEPLACE weren't here when someone came up with that idea, so don't really understand why some doors have some unusual marking and some don't. I think Zebra markings main deck and below might be a different color, which is separate from a ship's modified zebra, but since most people know to close doors they opened, the problem usually fixes itself even if a couple of people don't know why. I still try to be charitable in situations like this. Should the whole crew know it? Yeah, sure. Who probably got yelled at to fix it? A first tour who has no context and probably actually still thinks they're supposed to close all the doors or a junior enlisted who has no idea how to run something up the chain to make some other department follow the rules. But even if it's not that, even if the chain of command was utilized and page 13s regarding knowledge of dogging doors was signed after training at both duty section turnover and quarters, you're still stuck with the most dangerous group of people on the ship, the ones that don't go to quarters or khaki call, the ones who stand no duty: SQUADRON* and contractors. So someone who got yelled at because someone else didn't close a door resorts to a sign. If whoever left that door open did so a few times in a row sees that sign next time, the problem probably goes away, whoever it is, and nobody had to sign a muster sheet. *SQUADRON does stand duty, but not in port, so duty section training or routine shipboard reminders about stuff they learned years ago. piL fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Sep 28, 2022 |
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Wibla posted:It's very simple. But then you'll get syphilis and herpes?
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Wibla posted:Doesn't Mod Z have a different marking? I've been out for way longer than I was in at this point, my memory on this is fuzzy to say the least No. It's just Z. You're probably thinking of Dog Zebra for the darken ship fittings which do have a different marking: a Z in D.
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https://twitter.com/JasonLeopold/status/1575281027525713920?s=20&t=UMsdUJ1dMI3NtuSqnjfhDA https://twitter.com/JasonLeopold/status/1575284730110431232?s=20&t=UMsdUJ1dMI3NtuSqnjfhDA Presented without comment
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orange juche posted:Is this a serious question? The answer is the US Navy lol. I swear our suppo ordered No Bread for every unrep, because that's what we had at every meal underway: NO BREAD. You could get jelly packets and no crackers OR peanut butter and crackers, but NEVER peanut butter, crackers, and jelly packets. The jelly was for toast, you see. We had no bread for so long that the toaster element rusted by the time we DID get bread and then went out of service for the rest of the underway. Still weren't allowed jelly for the toast you couldn't make with the bread you didn't have.
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:I swear our suppo ordered No Bread for every unrep, because that's what we had at every meal underway: NO BREAD. I would think the suppo would be ordering the materials to make loaves of bread tbh. Flour and yeast keep way the gently caress longer than prepped bread. If the cooks didn't know how to make bread though... lol I know on board USS lastship we had fresh bread every meal because the cooks would bake a bajillion loaves of bread every night from dough balls prepped during the day.
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Yeah, I've always seen fresh made bread on any underway of significant length. My first boat the bread was always harder than a hockey puck, on the 22 they actually proofed that poo poo and let it rise for the correct amount of time, and man it's a little thing, but having a nice fluffy piece of bread or hamburger bun is a big morale boost. The meal after we ran into the mountain was bun-less hamburgers because all the buns got flung on the floor, and that was depressing. The funniest CS related thing I ever saw was the CO getting PISSED that we ran out of butter, and convening a command-level critique about why there was no butter. That critique was henceforth know as I can't believe there's no butter
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I had a cargo ship cook gently caress up a hot dog once, that one stays with you. Like… how? Even if I tried, I couldn’t. Also had a cook who made BLT soup. She was a bit peculiar, when she asked what you wanted in your burg, you’d better mention the patty or you were getting a lettuce and cheese sandwich.
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:I swear our suppo ordered No Bread for every unrep, because that's what we had at every meal underway: NO BREAD. what the gently caress? Who would stop you? The CS on duty?
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https://twitter.com/charlesornstein/status/1575889960690778117?t=9YS5jisZIfj1DAZfakg2Nw&s=19 Not guilty for Sailor accused of the BHR fire
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Ugh my ship is such a loving joke. I come in this morning to find: Thats a really nice door. Im amazed the powers that be haven’t plastered 57 coats of wavy uneven paint over that beautiful powder coat.
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/charlesornstein/status/1575889960690778117?t=9YS5jisZIfj1DAZfakg2Nw&s=19 Whatever faults our UCMJ system may have, you are in good hands as junior enlisted going to a bench trial. The prosecution had no loving case, but you don’t need a unanimous military panel, and that’s easy to get with the idiots you get in the military. Judges? Not so much. I know this isn’t universal, but it’s a pretty common thread.
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Whatever faults our UCMJ system may have, you are in good hands as junior enlisted going to a bench trial. The prosecution had no loving case, but you don’t need a unanimous military panel, and that’s easy to get with the idiots you get in the military. Judges? Not so much. Yeah my JAGs straight up told me they really have no case and going Judge only was the way to go but a panel of chiefs and officers usually have the mindset of, "if they're accused they're guilty". Thank god I actually listen to good advice.
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Whatever faults our UCMJ system may have, you are in good hands as junior enlisted going to a bench trial. The prosecution had no loving case, but you don’t need a unanimous military panel, and that’s easy to get with the idiots you get in the military. Judges? Not so much. It doesn't apply to serious crimes like this, but did you know that in the Navy, you don't get to request court martial in lieu of NJP if you're on a ship?
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Stultus Maximus posted:It doesn't apply to serious crimes like this, but did you know that in the Navy, you don't get to request court martial in lieu of NJP if you're on a ship? Yea. It’s incredibly hosed.
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Yea. It’s incredibly hosed. I remember being in a school explaining that, "Yes, technically that's true but nobody ever actually does it," and then having all the people with normal careers turn to me and tell me stories 
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/charlesornstein/status/1575889960690778117?t=9YS5jisZIfj1DAZfakg2Nw&s=19 You think he'll stay in?
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lmao 100% some broke brain is going to give him a talk about not judging the Navy based on this experience and to make PO and do a shore duty first
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Now does the Navy owe him for damages is the question, since they've basically killed his career and he's been sitting in the brig instead of getting promoted etc.
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orange juche posted:Now does the Navy owe him for damages is the question, since they've basically killed his career and he's been sitting in the brig instead of getting promoted etc. Hahahahah oh poo poo that's a good one you have good jokes
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orange juche posted:Now does the Navy owe him for damages is the question, since they've basically killed his career and he's been sitting in the brig instead of getting promoted etc. Do you mean in a moral sense?
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Serjeant Buzfuz posted:Hahahahah oh poo poo that's a good one you have good jokes Yeah I mean no they won't pay him poo poo, especially since the navy is pissed at him for him beating their charges. His best bet is to gently caress off away from the navy and never look back.
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orange juche posted:Yeah I mean no they won't pay him poo poo, especially since the navy is pissed at him for him beating their charges. His best bet is to gently caress off away from the navy and never look back. My CMC said after I got back to my command after beating my charges that he would follow my transfers everywhere and make sure my every new command knew about me, even after he's retired. He was still somehow surprised when I told him I was getting out.
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Anita Dickinme posted:My CMC said after I got back to my command after beating my charges that he would follow my transfers everywhere and make sure my every new command knew about me, even after he's retired. He was still somehow surprised when I told him I was getting out. orange juche posted:Now does the Navy owe him for damages is the question, since they've basically killed his career and he's been sitting in the brig instead of getting promoted etc. ded posted:just a reminder for anyone who ever feels nostalgia about things
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Anita Dickinme posted:My CMC said after I got back to my command after beating my charges that he would follow my transfers everywhere and make sure my every new command knew about me, even after he's retired. He was still somehow surprised when I told him I was getting out. That’s the lamest thing I’ve ever heard. What a douche.
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orange juche posted:Now does the Navy owe him for damages is the question, since they've basically killed his career and he's been sitting in the brig instead of getting promoted etc. He should pay the Navy back for all the sea pay he's been collecting while non-deployable
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Cerekk posted:He should pay the Navy back for all the sea pay he's been collecting while non-deployable That makes me wonder, was he TAD to the Brig or PCSed?
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Crab Dad posted:That’s the lamest thing I’ve ever heard. What a douche. this kind of behavior is the norm from Chiefs in the Real Navy, a place you should hope to never go to
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maffew buildings posted:this kind of behavior is the norm from Chiefs in the Real Navy, a place you should hope to never go to Sounds awful don’t think I will.
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Anita Dickinme posted:He was still somehow surprised when I told him I was getting out. It's absolutely amazing how many EDMCs/COBs/CMCs just don't understand how anyone could want to get out. They're even more out of touch with what the real navy is like than Crab Dad.
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