mcbexx posted:

I feel "artists" who huff and puff over it don't really understand what it has to offer, especially to people who are not gifted with the manual skillset, but now have a tool to express their imagination.

mcbexx posted:

I feel "artists" who huff and puff over it don't really understand what it has to offer, especially to people who are not gifted with the manual skillset, but now have a tool to express their imagination.

Elotana posted:

Those are all awesome except for the one with the despised Default Stylize Girl

Prolonged Panorama posted:

. A sort of uncanny valley for art, maybe.

lunar detritus posted:

Until someone makes a blind study comparing human art and AI-generated art, both types of sample carefully selected instead of simply taking whatever first comes up after writing a prompt, this just feels like coping.

Prolonged Panorama posted:

The "manual skillset" is there for anyone that practices enough, though. Regardless of medium. It's not a "gift" any more than being a good cook or a competent programmer is. You just have to work at it.

TheWorldsaStage posted:

Few things here. I could never be a programmer. I am math and code stupid. It is not something I am capable of I am in my 30s and I can admit this about myself. The analogy doesn't exactly work.

Time and money are two things in very short supply for many people. Affording the years time to practice and buy materials may not be feasible to a lot of people. Being able to use ai art to express themselves shouldn't be looked down on, or viewed lesser as.

Also to your point of basically calling ai art mcdonalds for art, you can kind of see similarities in some things but certainly not all. When you bring in gimp and photoshop into it you can't distinguish classical digital art to ai art. That's not to mention how young the tech is and how quick it's growing.

My question to you, is I get an outline and basis for what I want to do and I fine tune things for hours from color, lighting, composition and a myriad of things. Do you not see that as creative or artistic?

E: I haven't been able to do photography in years, got too expensive to travel. I really like having ai art as an outlet and I guess I just don't see it as the effortless blob of manufacture you hint at.

Snowy posted:

Prolonged Panorama posted:

I should have said [insert skill here] - sure, everyone has different tendencies and inclinations, but most things are learnable, and the skill ceiling is pretty high. People aren't born knowing how to code or cook or draw or paint or play piano or dress well or lead a sales call or ride a bike or drive a car or play Call of Duty or touch type... or write prompts for image AIs! It's all just practice.

I wasn't saying I look down on AI art, just that unless it's been modified pretty heavily (and skillfully) it tends to be quickly identifiable. So while there is a big element of "people expressing themselves" (which is good!!!), the tools themselves are imposing a strong sort of look/feel/style/vibe as well - it isn't pure expression, or even really anywhere close to it. All tools suffer this in their infancy, we'll see how AI tools grow, in tandem with users getting more sophisticated and skilled. It's an interesting time.

Of course taking output from an AI and further refining it toward your vision is creative/artistic. I'm doing it myself! It's exciting/inspiring/threatening, as a digital artist at work and at home. I don't have a verdict or judgement on this stuff. If I did it wouldn't matter.

Jonny Nox posted:

oh, poo poo. bagpipes guy is going to give us Gub Chibbibibi bagpipes. Genuinely can't wait.


edit: also, Gub Chibbibibi is now the thread mascot.

TheWorldsaStage posted:

A Scottish Leprechaun!

E: I didn't know there was a Scottish equivalent to a Leprechaun and now I'm going down a rabbit hole

Mozi posted:

Sharkasaurus official portrait, by rembrandt and raymond swanland, volumetric and perfect lighting, 4k, 8k, hd --testp --upbeta

Chello De Don posted:

When I'm writing my prompt to Midjourney, does applying a weight to a phrase like this:

isometric map::1.75 only apply the weight modifier to the word "map", or will it take into account the full phrase "isometric map"? If not, can applying parentheses around the phrase fix it, like so:

((isometric map))::1.75, <rest of the prompt>

Tunicate posted:

applies to everything before it, also segments it as a new prompt

so

firefighter ::2
is different than

fire::2 fighter::2

Doggles posted:

"a corgi wearing an astronaut suit, dragoncon, 35mm, f/2.8, flash fired, full length"

Siguy posted:

I finally got Dreambooth running on a rented server and was able to train a new model on pictures of my daughter (sorry, not sharing pictures of a 5-year-old on Something Awful). It's kind of a horrible, clunky, error-laden process and the final results were only at the "mostly looks like her" level rather than the "perfect resemblance" level but I still really enjoyed it. I'd gladly destroy the earth with CO2 emissions by using rented server after rented server to pump out millions of pictures of my kids as space vikings and whatnot.

Elotana posted:

Yeah I pretty much bought private mode on Midjourney because my nephews and nieces wanted themselves as characters and I didn't want their headshot image prompts public

Siguy posted:

I finally got Dreambooth running on a rented server and was able to train a new model on pictures of my daughter (sorry, not sharing pictures of a 5-year-old on Something Awful). It's kind of a horrible, clunky, error-laden process and the final results were only at the "mostly looks like her" level rather than the "perfect resemblance" level but I still really enjoyed it. I'd gladly destroy the earth with CO2 emissions by using rented server after rented server to pump out millions of pictures of my kids as space vikings and whatnot.