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Countblanc posted:https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23857518/initializing-systems-updating-competitive-play-for-overwatch-2/ tldr: No more open SR. You get ranks Bronze to GM with tiers from 5 to 1 inside each rank. You don't see you SR drain after each loss or rise with each win. Instead after 7 wins or 20 losses you see and adjustement to your tier/rank. No more medals, instead you see raw damage/heal stats for everyone: (as seen on beta.)  quote:The placement system from past Competitive seasons is changing in Overwatch 2. More detailed breakdown of all your matches during your session. You can check you wins. You can check heroes you played in each match and what did you accomplish during your match with that hero. Gold weapons are still competitive mode only: quote:Competitive Points will continue to be the reward currency for winning Competitive matches, rewarding 10 points for a win, Overall I see this pretty good. Edit: lol, what a great snipe.
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Macaluso posted:Clean Junkrat is hosed up He had to clean up his act as he is in luv... with Kiriko.
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Sep 28, 2022 20:25
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good changes and wondering if there were any shouting matches that resulted in separate Input Pools
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No Wave posted:Ahh, removing visible mmr and replacing it with fantasy points (which inflate over the course of each season). We all should have seen that one coming too. drat, sounds like everyone needs to spread the word of the horrors of Overwatch inflation
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The tiers do seem like an improvement over seeing your SR drop immediately after a bad loss. Overall I think it should help people focus more on their mid/longer term competitive performance rather than focusing too much on an individual match. Regarding competitive points, have the mentioned if those are carrying over from OW1 to OW2? Do I need to login to buy another golden gun before the changeover, or can I just wait until OW2 to spend what I have?
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Sep 28, 2022 20:40
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So basically you can get to a higher rank by playing a lot. Except in higher rank you will lose more than win, so it will all balance out in the end. So high plats could hit low diamond at the end of season and stabilize there, but low plats will stabilize on mid/high plat and not get higher, unless they really improve. And repeat each season. Seems fine.
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TheKingofSprings posted:drat, sounds like everyone needs to spread the word of the horrors of Overwatch inflation No Wave fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Sep 28, 2022 |
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Sep 28, 2022 20:48
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adhuin posted:You don't see you SR drain after each loss or rise with each win. Instead after 7 wins or 20 losses you see and adjustement to your tier/rank. On the one hand this is probably going to reduce tilting when people aren't hit by Number Goes Down after every loss On the other hand I can't wait for people to get confused and/or angry when they win their 7th game and go down in rank (because they lost 15 games)
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Ryanbomber posted:On the one hand this is probably going to reduce tilting when people aren't hit by Number Goes Down after every loss That would be very stupid. I assume they save that adjustment for when you lose your 20th game. Instead when you win 7th time.
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No Wave posted:No, it's the most sane implementation everyone does it outside of dying or dead games like Starcraft 2 or chess. This was nonetheless controversial for a long time for reasons I don't really understand. I am going to miss seeing people lose their poo poo over that magic number. Gamers are not equipped to handle real feedback. I don't see why a chess rating would be bad for any game.
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Sep 28, 2022 22:00
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Macaluso posted:Clean Junkrat is hosed up it's loving disgusting what they did to junkrat, just shameful
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Sep 28, 2022 22:06
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You are going to have to pay big bucks to unlock a classic junkrat model.
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Sep 28, 2022 22:09
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the changes to competitive are good, gamers in general lack both the critical thinking abilities and emotional maturity to deal with real ELO/MMR systems like chess
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headcase posted:You are going to have to pay big bucks to unlock a classic junkrat model. I weep for all the new generations that won't know the story of dirty Junkrat. All they will know is cleanrat. #Junkraterasure
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I am pretty ok with the competitive ranking system changes, and might even go back to it now!
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Wheeee posted:the changes to competitive are good, gamers in general lack both the critical thinking abilities and emotional maturity to deal with real ELO/MMR systems like chess Now they are just going to complain that the engine is conspiring to hold them back by artificially making them lose half their games. In all honesty, it will feel good to have some room to climb a bit every season after being set back.
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So hold on, they removed the borders to stop people pre-judging teammates, then added namecards that show how high you climbed in a season, allowing people to pre-judge their teammates?
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Don't question it. Just get ready to uninstall and move on when they triple down on the monetization and anti-toxicity measures that end up breeding toxicity.
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headcase posted:I am going to miss seeing people lose their poo poo over that magic number. Gamers are not equipped to handle real feedback. this is the best thing about really every mmr/elo system. they're incredibly good at evaluating how good someone is at winning. players are incredibly bad at evaluating how good they are at winning. the gap between the two is what we call the 'cope zone' headcase posted:Now they are just going to complain that the engine is conspiring to hold them back by artificially making them lose half their games. yeah it's not changing anything, buncha people still gonna be not the rank they believe they should be so there'll still be as much whining as ever. that said, imo it's good to rework mmr systems periodically because people generally like the chance to see how they do in a fresh system and it's an easy way to ditch all the bad feelings people have towards the old one. Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Sep 29, 2022 |
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Sep 28, 2022 23:58
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Ostensibly competitive game modes in team-based games that don’t enforce joining/queuing as a premade team are stupid as hell and break peoples’ brains. People demand em tho because the constant feedback and grind are addictive, and having a team of randos allows you to subconsciously offload all responsibility for failure onto others while getting to feel personally validated by success. If gamers actually wanted a true test and representation of their skills 1v1 games like Starcraft wouldn’t be dead and card games like Magic and Hearthstone wouldn’t have followed a long trend of increasing variance in gameplay. Play mystery heroes, attain enlightenment.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:So hold on, they removed the borders to stop people pre-judging teammates, then added namecards that show how high you climbed in a season, allowing people to pre-judge their teammates? They removed the level borders (that were based on how much play time you had) and the rank borders (for cases like if you’re near ranking up or the last year of OW1 Diamond tanks in Masters and GM games because there weren’t enough tanks in queue). They removed these because they were forced. They added titles that are an opt-in method for showing off your previous season rank.
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I don't get the 7 wins or 20 losses thing. Why not just a fixed 10 game review? e: it also seems pretty easy to mentally convert "plat 1" to "2500-2599" headcase fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Sep 29, 2022 |
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adhuin posted:I haven't played the Gundam OW-game, but I've seen Angryjoe video about it. I played half a match, it felt dumb, Alt-F4d and went back to Mystery Heroes I wish they weren't killing OW1, it's been chill and fun for my quick FPS fix for forever, and it's about all my aging reflexes can take at this point.
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The comp changes are interesting. It's kind of like perpetual placement matches where you get updates after a number of games instead of after every one. I think it'll be less of a mental punch in the face every game.
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headcase posted:I don't get the 7 wins or 20 losses thing. Why not just a fixed 10 game review? dodges the 'they're trying to force a 50:50 winrate' stuff and also it will reshape where the boundaries for divisions are relative to player skill, which (at least in popular games) tends to incentivize people to push harder to hit new ranks that they haven't previously hit. Particularly late in a season when there likely will be rank inflation or w/e. also more directly: It's a lot of games to move up or down a tier since 7 wins is going to average out to like 12-15 games played and 20 losses is going to be ~25 games played in practice.
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my question is if I've merged my console and PC accounts, are they playing off the same SR
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Wejensen? What? Did Junkrat get a name change like McCree did? Since when?  E: Also kind of funny that they're basically reimplementing the stats system they had way back during the OW1 beta. I think this is better since gold medals were a pretty opaque way to judge your and others' performance and only served to induce rage and vitriol anyways. E2: I'd wager they'll make a new dirty Junkrat Mythic skin at some point for some sweet gamer cash at some point too lol E3: I also agree with the 7 wins/20 losses for SR change as a positive. I would have enjoyed comp mode a lot more if it didn't feel like each match was a stressful life-or-death affair with people constantly raging at each other because of stakes being match-to-match. Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Sep 29, 2022 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:dodges the 'they're trying to force a 50:50 winrate' stuff and also it will reshape where the boundaries for divisions are relative to player skill, which (at least in popular games) tends to incentivize people to push harder to hit new ranks that they haven't previously hit. Particularly late in a season when there likely will be rank inflation or w/e. also more directly: It's a lot of games to move up or down a tier since 7 wins is going to average out to like 12-15 games played and 20 losses is going to be ~25 games played in practice. OK I'm starting to get it. So generally you will only see the 7 win updates unless you are on a really bad streak and then you will occasionally see the 20 loss one before another 7 win update. e: ^^^ Im guessing that is 1 player in a custom game with a bunch of bots and he chose junkrat
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Wejensen? What? Did Junkrat get a name change like McCree did? Since when? Nah, thats the player who took the screenshot I assume. Beta prob just doesn't show other players battle tag names at the moment.
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Garry Junkrat was a member of the development team the character was named after, however he was recently quietly let go due to multiple accusations of sexual misconduct and so the character had to be changed
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Junkrat did not intend to get cleaned up, but Moira insisted in the name of science. Thankfully he had enough of her science poo poo when he saw his reflection and got the gently caress outta there.
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 TLDR: Old custom game modes and codes work and you can play them in OW2, but you can't create new game modes at launch. It will be updated in future patch.
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adhuin posted:
The Bastion Stairs community breathes a sigh of relief
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First skin bundles were on twitter.    Still no pricing. That left Sojourn skin looks pretty good, others are meh.
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They're all ones you'd be like "huh yeah ok that's alright I guess" coming out of a lootbox you got levelling up but not worth whatever they're undoubtedly going to be charging for them I'm sure.
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Adding neon brim to a trilby hat looks stupid.
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adhuin posted:
Is there a custom game mode that recreates overwatch 1 at launch? Not a joke post, i don't know how many variables these modes can change.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Is there a custom game mode that recreates overwatch 1 at launch? Not a joke post, i don't know how many variables these modes can change. I only poked at it a little but I'm fairly sure that yes, you can re-create OW1 in it.
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