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Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


Ian starts doing donuts over Florida, constantly getting boosted every time it goes back over water to be the first forever-ican thanks to climate change

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actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

FizFashizzle posted:

South

wonderful

does not compute

Soap Scum
Aug 8, 2003



me on the right, my boomer dad on the left

(context: retired parents live in miami most of the year but escape to the north for summer to avoid dying from heat stroke)

SchrodingersCat
Aug 23, 2011
It makes me sad for the future when I go to the Americanwx forums and see educated meteorologists denying climate change and holding up a handful of hurricanes from 1900-1970 as their evidence against it, ignoring the fact that we are having hurricanes of that level on a yearly/biyearly basis now.

Of course, the worst offenders are over 60 and earned their degrees back when meteorology was basically sticking your thumb in your mouth and holding it in the air, but even so. America is so loving full of brain worms.

SirPablo
May 1, 2004

Pillbug
Oh yeah those are the takes (comments bunch of Mets and others).

https://twitter.com/WxLiz/status/1575454643232165888?s=20&t=HyKhU4aJyy7ZkQ7GKQDaLQ

SchrodingersCat
Aug 23, 2011

SirPablo posted:

Oh yeah those are the takes (comments bunch of Mets and others).

https://twitter.com/WxLiz/status/1575454643232165888?s=20&t=HyKhU4aJyy7ZkQ7GKQDaLQ

Message wasn't received because the public was Florida Man.

NHC had very clear messaging that impact was likely from Tampa to Ft. Myers. It was known 36 hrs out that Ian was going to make landfall as at least a category 2. Governor Desantis told people not to evacuate and the local municipalities didn't appropriately press the issue. It's as simple as that.

SchrodingersCat has issued a correction as of 17:30 on Sep 29, 2022

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

SirPablo posted:

Oh yeah those are the takes (comments bunch of Mets and others).

https://twitter.com/WxLiz/status/1575454643232165888?s=20&t=HyKhU4aJyy7ZkQ7GKQDaLQ

:thunk: what a mystery

SirPablo
May 1, 2004

Pillbug
The blame is already flying and the people aren't even done dying.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Oh good, those pig poo poo lagoons haven't been forced to overflow in a while. :shepface:

we got rid of them years ago and replaced them with ur posting :smug:

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

SchrodingersCat posted:

Message wasn't received because the public was Florida Man.

NHC had very clear messaging that impact was likely from Tampa to Ft. Myers. It was known 36 hrs out that Ian was going to make landfall as at least a category 2. Governor Desantis told people not to evacuate and the local municipalities didn't appropriately press the issue. It's as simple as that.

well there's also the fact that Americans are fundamentally innumerate and have absolutely no conception of probability-based risk evaluation. coupled with a juuuust barely-there sense of shame of this deficit, and an absolutely toxic socially derisive atmosphere that prizes "toughing it out", you get the arms-crossed bull-headed reluctance to deviate in any way from the status quo

vis: COVID, top to bottom

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
Also people don't visualize the storm within the cone, they just think as long as they dodge the center line they're good

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006
It was either this thread or the SAL thread where I specifically mentioned the amazing detail local meteorologists were providing about the path and uncertainty of Ian. Anyone who watched that coverage and still blames the weather people is the living embodiment of that “kid puts stick into bike wheel” meme.

SchrodingersCat
Aug 23, 2011

Gunshow Poophole posted:

well there's also the fact that Americans are fundamentally innumerate and have absolutely no conception of probability-based risk evaluation. coupled with a juuuust barely-there sense of shame of this deficit, and an absolutely toxic socially derisive atmosphere that prizes "toughing it out", you get the arms-crossed bull-headed reluctance to deviate in any way from the status quo

vis: COVID, top to bottom

I mean, that's all kind of implied by "Florida Man", toxic masculinity combined with ignorance, stubborness, and the gross Dunning-Krueger brand of southeast American "Main-character" style exceptionalism.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry
hey, Florida Man does cool things like hide his meth stash in an alligator's rear end in a top hat and forgets which alligator so he invents a way to check all the cloacae in the pond

it's much more quotidian and boring to just be dumb loving leadbrained americans

Pead
May 31, 2001
Nap Ghost

Soap Scum posted:

me on the right, my boomer dad on the left

(context: retired parents live in miami most of the year but escape to the north for summer to avoid dying from heat stroke)



"Insurance Covers" Lmao. Good luck when the insurance company becomes insolvant. I hope your parents recover but this poo poo is going to be unsustainable

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

if you live in florida for any appreciable amount of time and evacuate every time you're in some probability cone for a cat 3, you're gonna be doing a lot of evacuating and it'll usually be for no reason and half the time you'll just end up stuck in a traffic jam. if you want to avoid hurricane risks don't live in flood zones/crappy post 1950s beach towns and live in a sturdy house not made of lovely plywood and stucco

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry

Marzzle posted:

if you want to avoid hurricane risks don't live in flood zones/crappy post 1950s beach towns and live in a sturdy house not made of lovely plywood and stucco

https://twitter.com/dril/status/922321981?s=20

lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

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:toot:

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


Marzzle posted:

if you live in florida for any appreciable amount of time and evacuate every time you're in some probability cone for a cat 3, you're gonna be doing a lot of evacuating and it'll usually be for no reason and half the time you'll just end up stuck in a traffic jam. if you want to avoid hurricane risks don't live in flood zones/crappy post 1950s beach towns and live in a sturdy house not made of lovely plywood and stucco

gently caress you this is America I'll live wherever the gently caress I want to. Besides, what's a little wind ever done to anyone?

I really do wonder what percentage of Floridians who don't evacuate were born in Florida

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/florida-has-the-second-fewest-native-residents-of-any-state-6548292

quote:

Just 36 percent of Florida's residents were born in Florida as of 2012. Only Nevada has a smaller native population, with only 25 percent of residents born in the state, but Nevada isn't so much a state as it is a collection of brothels and casinos in the desert anyway.

don't get me wrong I get that Floridians are perfectly capable of being idiots, and that everyone in this godforsaken country has a death drive that will keep them from evacuating in these situations on top of all of the financial reasons not to. I just want to know if being non-native means that you are less likely to evacuate

SchrodingersCat
Aug 23, 2011

Ian doing it's best "van driving into a crowd" impression, except it's barrier islands and populated cities instead of pedestrians.

Hurricane Ian defies all meteorological norms and crosses the entire continental US before emerging into the Pacific and reorganizing as a typhoon. Promptly recurves SE, crosses the Isthmus of Panama, and smashes into Florida again right before Halloween.

SchrodingersCat has issued a correction as of 17:55 on Sep 29, 2022

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005
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goochtit posted:

Did Cape Coral cease to exist? Haven't seen anything out of there yet

not as bad as fort myers beach but some poo poo got wrecked and i saw one video with a boat in the middle of a yard

https://twitter.com/politicalplayer/status/1575526156354584576

https://twitter.com/trentorr40/status/1575525316273098754

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

SchrodingersCat posted:

Ian doing it's best "van driving into a crowd" impression, except it's barrier islands and populated cities instead of pedestrians.

Hurricane Ian defies all meteorological norms and crosses the entire continental US before emerging into the Pacific and reorganizing as a typhoon. Promptly recurves SE, crosses the Isthmus of Panama, and smashes into Florida again right before Halloween.

If it somehow crosses zones (I guess over Central America to the pacific would be the most likely scenario for this to happen) does it get renamed to the other basin pattern or keep its original name?

Red Baron
Mar 9, 2007

ty slumfrog :)

Oglethorpe posted:

not as bad as fort myers beach but some poo poo got wrecked and i saw one video with a boat in the middle of a yard

https://twitter.com/politicalplayer/status/1575526156354584576

https://twitter.com/trentorr40/status/1575525316273098754

imagine the smell

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

the issue is prob everyone just stars at the black circle and thus ignores the cone

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

TeenageArchipelago posted:

I just want to know if being non-native means that you are less likely to evacuate

I was born here but I've never evacuated for anything. the highest category I've "ridden out" was a cat 4 with some giga surge I can't remember the size of. I've never lived in a flood zone but I lived a few blocks from one for the cat 4 and saw a few cars floating by when I checked it out (after the cat 4, the area is subject to a city buyback to be converted back to wetlands now :getin:). I've never lived on the "beaches" which are usually a barrier island made entirely of sand that basically exists because a zillion years of storms deposited it there (that developers LOVE because no one in their right mind built anything there a century ago).

If I ever lived in a place that wasn't made of 1 ft thick brick walls or steel reinforced cinderblock then I'd probably feel a BIT more nervous but those big rear end beach town wipeouts like people are posting videos of really just happen right on the coasts (where no one should've been living in lovely wooden houses in the first place but :shrug:). as bad as florida development can be, we can still look down on texas. those guys are real fuckups. constant hurricanes at least cull the dumbest ideas florida has while texas doesn't get em enough to learn Tough Lessons

Marzzle has issued a correction as of 18:04 on Sep 29, 2022

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown
https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1575532232722116610?t=HhgJ3_y_svXEc8wkw5hl9g&s=19

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

gonna be pissed off if this gives the blood lusters the red meat they've been looking for but also desantis should be in jail for an extra reason now

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

the trick to living in florida is just to not live directly on the beach in a house 6 inches above sea level and then the worst that happens is your power goes out for a few days, though in mid september florida post-hurricane weather that can be kind of miserable. if you're extremely unlucky a tree limb will crush your house or car or something but you'd have to deal with that if you evacuated or not. just if you have to live on the loving beach maybe have a bugout location a few miles inland so you don't get swept out to sea like a rube

Soup du Jour
Sep 8, 2011

I always knew I'd die with a headache.

https://twitter.com/mesomax919/status/1575511789386833923?s=21&t=7LeH9V4Zd2ZKRX8NM5PCEQ

this is where Hero Camera 9 was filming yesterday

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

the bitcoin of weed posted:

the trick to living in florida is just to not live directly on the beach in a house 6 inches above sea level and then the worst that happens is your power goes out for a few days, though in mid september florida post-hurricane weather that can be kind of miserable. if you're extremely unlucky a tree limb will crush your house or car or something but you'd have to deal with that if you evacuated or not. just if you have to live on the loving beach maybe have a bugout location a few miles inland so you don't get swept out to sea like a rube

just visit the beach when you feel like it and live in the inland portion of your city established hundreds of years ago where the whole place doesn't have the lovely tourist trap/bougie fucko vibe of the beach communities

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



the golf greens are back above water!
https://twitter.com/InfosFrancaises/status/1575516910371844101

this is the only shot i've seen of one of the hubris shoreline golf and canal developments

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators

SirPablo posted:

Oh yeah those are the takes (comments bunch of Mets and others).

https://twitter.com/WxLiz/status/1575454643232165888?s=20&t=HyKhU4aJyy7ZkQ7GKQDaLQ

I checked the forecast archives and this was the first advisory that extended the hurricane warning south of englewood to place cape coral and fort meyers in a hurricane warning:




I think this one actually needs some important postmortem analysis here, regardless of what dumb conversations go on in Twitter.

Luneshot
Mar 10, 2014

https://twitter.com/Sean_Breslin/status/1575526950978088960
https://twitter.com/SheriffLeeFL/status/1575529164899340289

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

jetz0r posted:

the golf greens are back above water!
https://twitter.com/InfosFrancaises/status/1575516910371844101

this is the only shot i've seen of one of the hubris shoreline golf and canal developments

Pretty much all the houses that aren't on stilts in that picture are total write-offs whether they were leveled or not. Hard to tell from the picture with the water, but I'm guessing most of the ones on stilts are wasted too.

Dog Case
Oct 7, 2003

Heeelp meee... prevent wildfires

Seen some poo poo

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Ages
Feb 20, 2005

Its just half the puffin juice and the puffin lives and doesnt mind. I promise!
Fun Shoe

Marzzle posted:

just visit the beach when you feel like it and live in the inland portion of your city established hundreds of years ago where the whole place doesn't have the lovely tourist trap/bougie fucko vibe of the beach communities

until the big developers snap up all the destroyed property and build massive resorts that cut off 90+ percent of public access to the beaches, which could very well be the fate of Fort Myers Beach in the very near future

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Did Desantis tell people NOT to evacuate? Goddamn dude

I know at a certain point it's safer to hunker down than get caught in a hurricane in your car though.

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

Ages posted:

until the big developers snap up all the destroyed property and build massive resorts that cut off 90+ percent of public access to the beaches, which could very well be the fate of Fort Myers Beach in the very near future
there's actually rules about public beach accesses in most places that aren't like, unincorporated coastal shitholes. usually something like a mandate to have little paths to the beach between every 10 beachfront mega mansions and their owners give you a big 'ol stinkeye when you use them and set up shop in front of their house but that's half the fun :madmax:

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators
https://twitter.com/splillo/status/1575537160836431872

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WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*


I do not wish for anyone to die, even the climate denier idiots, and these are horrifying. Anyone in some of the homes is most likely dead. What a loving waste all of this is

PostNouveau posted:

Did Desantis tell people NOT to evacuate? Goddamn dude

I know at a certain point it's safer to hunker down than get caught in a hurricane in your car though.

Also a lot of these people are retirees, and yeah, my sympathy for rich fuckers with florida homes is limited but old people are not goign to be as able to just up and go, or deal with being in traffic for many hours, etc. Then there are all the poorer people who can;t jsut afford a hotel or have another place to go to. All these places also have poor people in them that work at the bars and hotels and whatnot.

WoodrowSkillson has issued a correction as of 18:44 on Sep 29, 2022

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