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Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Judge Schnoopy posted:

^^ beat me to it, thanks!

Ignored questions from the press, right? Nobody would know how she responded to the committee yet.

Right. Though given she’s a) a lawyer and b) a whack job I expect a lot of taking the 5th.

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Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

selec posted:

The Mueller She Wrote lady is a fed, incapable of accepting contrary evidence, a PPP loan scammer and a lovely boss who took all the money and paid her coworkers peanuts. Avoid at all costs.

Link?

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!
She'll be the first to approach the press, probably within fifteen minutes of leaving, claiming harassment and illegal questions and attacking her husband and "Illegitimacy!"



Speaking of illegitimate, Cannon greased up her pen and told Dearie to just review whatever documents are claimed, well not claimed, because the plantiff bearing the burden of responsibility doesn't... have to make any responsible claim about what's being reviewed. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-judge-says-trump-will-not-be-required-attest-accuracy-fbis-list-seized-2022-09-29/

This presumably means they can go through the entire process without the plantiff having claimed any harm whatsoever ("I want my property back... None is my property"). More likely, there will be a bunch of fake tweets claiming "Just as I said, the things that are mine are the things I said were mine! And I would have given back the other things if they had given me time".

Cannon may have also added 15dy to the schedule. (?) And I cannot tell anymore who's paying for this, but hopefully within the next fortnight we'll see a contempt charge for failure to pay the special master and assistants.

Crazyweasel
Oct 29, 2006
lazy

PhantomOfTheCopier posted:

She'll be the first to approach the press, probably within fifteen minutes of leaving, claiming harassment and illegal questions and attacking her husband and "Illegitimacy!"



Speaking of illegitimate, Cannon greased up her pen and told Dearie to just review whatever documents are claimed, well not claimed, because the plantiff bearing the burden of responsibility doesn't... have to make any responsible claim about what's being reviewed. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-judge-says-trump-will-not-be-required-attest-accuracy-fbis-list-seized-2022-09-29/

This presumably means they can go through the entire process without the plantiff having claimed any harm whatsoever ("I want my property back... None is my property"). More likely, there will be a bunch of fake tweets claiming "Just as I said, the things that are mine are the things I said were mine! And I would have given back the other things if they had given me time".

Cannon may have also added 15dy to the schedule. (?) And I cannot tell anymore who's paying for this, but hopefully within the next fortnight we'll see a contempt charge for failure to pay the special master and assistants.

This is all kind of procedural because the DOJ or whoever was allowed to move forward with the classified docs, right?

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1575561167476498432

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Crazyweasel posted:

This is all kind of procedural because the DOJ or whoever was allowed to move forward with the classified docs, right?

Yes, they have been able to use them for investigation since Dearie's earlier ruling. Which means they are almost certainly done with all of it, by now, no matter how many hundreds of thousands of pages are at issue.

This is no longer an issue. If and when Trump gets charged, it will happen in DC and they already have what they need to make that case to the sitting grand jury.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

Crazyweasel posted:

This is all kind of procedural because the DOJ or whoever was allowed to move forward with the classified docs, right?

Well, there’s still PRA violations and getting the records under control for appropriate use and all but for the serious stuff, yeah, this is all a side show.

Kind of interesting that DoJ is letting this go on since 11th circuit agreed with them that Cannon doesn’t have jurisdiction in this matter. In some ways I guess it helps them get a preview and maybe even early defusing of some of his arguments.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Murgos posted:

Well, there’s still PRA violations and getting the records under control for appropriate use and all but for the serious stuff, yeah, this is all a side show.

Kind of interesting that DoJ is letting this go on since 11th circuit agreed with them that Cannon doesn’t have jurisdiction in this matter. In some ways I guess it helps them get a preview and maybe even early defusing of some of his arguments.

I mean, for all we know "letting this go" means they're just doing less public stuff cause it's back-burnered but not forgotten.

No idea what, but I'm just guessing that they at least left the equivalent of Kevin the Intern on it or something.

selec
Sep 6, 2003


https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/loans/mueller-she-wrote-4869517304

Also some bits from the lawsuit against her by her employee here:

https://twitter.com/fishontherun2/status/1554339615447740416?s=46&t=lkiepm_IU7Wv62cFOs9OxA

And just for catty fun:

https://twitter.com/buniculatv/status/1531432654922465282?s=46&t=lkiepm_IU7Wv62cFOs9OxA

Fart Amplifier
Apr 12, 2003


The ProPublica link doesn't prove that and the rest are (AFAIK) unproven allegations.

Also the whole "how dare she take PPP loan forgiveness while she buys a pool" thing is so loving stupid. Personal income and business income is not the same thing. I'm not going to speak to the allegations in the lawsuit, because I have no evidence one way or the other, but using these tweets as some kind of evidence is laughable and you should be embarrassed.

Fart Amplifier fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Sep 30, 2022

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Huh, and here I thought the first clue to whether or not the "Mueller, She Wrote" podcast lady kind of really loving sucked was that she 1) built her brand off of Robert Mueller's name, and 2) kept using the loving name into what is now the closing months of Twenty Goddamn Twenty Two AD. So yeah, I can totally buy that this woman would be out of touch with reality enough to... do all of that poo poo, I guess.

Making a podcast about people who you think are going to face consequences for political crime poo poo that invokes the name of Robert Mueller is like hosting a podcast about cracking open old safes in search of fabulous treasures and naming it after Geraldo Rivera :doh:

nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Sep 30, 2022

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
You got a link to the actual lawsuit? Because I don’t think the twitter account of someone using it to promote onlyfans is a credible one.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Just a reminder that PPP "loans" were never meant to really be loans from the very beginning. They were always intended, and everyone involved knew this, to be a bribe to businesses to not lay off their employees. It was structured as a loan to force them to pay the money back if they didn't hold up their end of the bargain. And yes, for businesses that were doing well and never intended to lay off employees, it was free money, but it was a crisis and we didn't have time for complicated bureaucracy.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


It was also never meant for businesses like "a podcast". That poo poo was for restaurants and hotels and airlines and retail. poo poo where people needed to interact in person and weren't allowed to. Not podcasts and personally assistants to guillotine fodder. Making it happen quickly necessitated few restrictions, but that poo poo got ABUSED.

Cranappleberry
Jan 27, 2009
any successful business owner knows that you don't need employees or equipment to be successful. All you need is more stock, which you can borrow against to buy stuff. Stuff like a jet ski.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Cranappleberry posted:

any successful business owner knows that you don't need employees or equipment to be successful. All you need is more stock, which you can borrow against to buy stuff. Stuff like a jet ski.

I'm stealing this and making it my LinkedIn header.

selec
Sep 6, 2003

Boris Galerkin posted:

You got a link to the actual lawsuit? Because I don’t think the twitter account of someone using it to promote onlyfans is a credible one.

Onlyfans is just another job and I think you’re weirder for pointing it out than they are for operating one.

Despite this, I saved you ten seconds on google:

https://unicourt.com/case/ca-sd-johnson-vs-gill-1058793

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

selec fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Sep 30, 2022

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

selec posted:

Onlyfans is just another job and I think you’re weirder for pointing it out than they are for operating one.

Despite this, I saved you ten seconds on google:

https://unicourt.com/case/ca-sd-johnson-vs-gill-1058793

For future reference, next time lead with the actual source instead of a Twitter rando sharing cropped screenshots with no link back to source.

e: like you posted the claim, the googling is on you

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

ReidRansom posted:

It was also never meant for businesses like "a podcast". That poo poo was for restaurants and hotels and airlines and retail. poo poo where people needed to interact in person and weren't allowed to. Not podcasts and personally assistants to guillotine fodder. Making it happen quickly necessitated few restrictions, but that poo poo got ABUSED.

I was laid off the day I came back from parental leave and given an 14 week garden leave, coincidentally right when the PPP loans would of run out.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

Rigel posted:

Just a reminder that PPP "loans" were never meant to really be loans from the very beginning. They were always intended, and everyone involved knew this, to be a bribe to businesses to not lay off their employees. It was structured as a loan to force them to pay the money back if they didn't hold up their end of the bargain. And yes, for businesses that were doing well and never intended to lay off employees, it was free money, but it was a crisis and we didn't have time for complicated bureaucracy.

lol yeah totally, it was the best system they could come up with. Definitely not free money to businesses with almost 0 strings attached.

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!
Is this the new bad with money thread?

Let's see, "January 6th". Oh yes.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/bennie-thompson-confirms-jan-6-committee-will-release-its-final-report-before-the-midterms/ Bennie says report release is scheduled before midterms.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/jury-is-selected-oath-keepers-capitol-riot-trial-2022-09-29/ Opening arguments start Monday.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-maggie-haberman-book-desantis-b2176151.html Interesting. Must admit to not really knowing the author/chronicler, but it seems she had lots of inside info, include Trump telling her that he was in meetings 1/6, directly contradicting eye witnesses saying Peach was watching television.

(I've earned an off topic post now, right? https://www.murkowski.senate.gov/press/release/murkowski-sullivan-introduce-bill-to-recognize-the-legacy-of-the-late-congressman-don-young- It's called loving Mount Cerberus because it has three points you loving chuds. What's next, when you get a majority in the house you're going to call it The Floor For Facism?!)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/30/trump-lawyers-kise-corcoran-bobb/ DoublePeached is not listening to his $3M lawyer.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/tennessee-man-pleads-guilty-felony-charges-actions-during-jan-6-capitol-breach 1/6 rioter pleads guilty to felony obstruction with advanced planning.

PhantomOfTheCopier fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Sep 30, 2022

H.R. Hufflepuff
Aug 5, 2005
The worst of all worlds
Potential posting about posters removed

Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!
Here's a fun one. An Oath Keepers bigwig just learned, apparently, of a witness that could support him.

https://mobile.twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1576597300012408832

It wasn't until Rhodes' notes were shared last week that the Meggs learned about Siemens... which is understandable, given that Siemens has spent the year as chairman of the Patriots Legal Defense Fund, a grift setup by Stewart Rhodes for the purpose of.... bankrolling Oath Keeper defenses.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Looks who's appealing to SCOTSU, it's out special boy!

https://twitter.com/SCOTUSblog/status/1577386826112827392

As usual, IANAL but seems pretty desperate and unlikely to do anything

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
In a 6-3 decision....

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

BigBallChunkyTime posted:

In a 6-3 decision....

I am unclear what you think this meme adds to the discussion.

There are no justices who are slavish zombies for Donald Trump, and there aren't actually that many who are slavish zombies for the Republican Party. Slavish zombies for the federalist society are more common but not QUITE the same thing.

This appeal is basically nonsense and it's nonsense in a way that is unlikely to appeal to the sensibilities of six justices. Even Alito, arguably the worst justice on the court, is going to be confronted with the conflict between "help Trump" and "never, under any circumstances, give the slightest assistance or credence to anyone the cops suspect of a crime".

E: on a related "it's not as simple as making a 6-3 decision shitpost" topic, https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1576931875670614018

Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Oct 4, 2022

Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


I can't imagine SCOTUS liking the idea that Trump expects them to drop everything to rule in his favor

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!
https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1577267264872910848

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

GreyjoyBastard posted:


There are no justices who are slavish zombies for Donald Trump



E: on a related "it's not as simple as making a 6-3 decision shitpost" topic, https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1576931875670614018

hmmmm. Maybe not him specifically but certainly his brand of politics. Also, Thomas should instantly recuse himself for obvious reasons (but he won't) and that right there speaks to something. To me anyway.

Also, lol, I caught a whiff of Hannity today and didn't learn until a few hours ago that Lindell has moved on with his business model of adding "My" onto an existing, widely available, affordable product, up charging it by 200% and pretending it's superior and inherently patriotic by virtue of being advertised on FOX News and talk radio.

Today was the day I learned about "My Slippers".

What are we up to now, product wise, here with this huckster? Because the possibilities are endless. You can "My _____________" any loving thing and I fully expect it tbh. Winter is coming up and I need a My Scarf, a My Log and some My Gloves.

...

My Post.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
Trump's election cases were all slapped down 7-2 or 8-1. Don't see why this would be different.

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!
Has anyone told DoublePeach (or the supreme court for that matter) that

someone A posted:

in positions of great responsibility every one should do his duty to the best of his ability where assigned by competent authority, without application or the use of influence to change his position.

Or that

someone B posted:

The power confided to us increases the weight of our obligations to the people, and we must be profoundly sensible of them... Aiming only at the public good, we cannot err.

Or that

someone C posted:

I believe in a strong executive; I believe in power, but I believe that responsibility should go with power, and that it is not well that the strong executive should be a perpetual executive

Or that

someone D posted:

in a democratic world, as in a democratic Nation, power must be linked with responsibility, and obliged to defend and justify itself within the framework of the general good

Given our great heritage, I assume that several SC judges, who are interested in traditionalism and originalism, some circuit court judges, a number of 2016 thru 2020 executive branch officials, as well as a dozen people violating national archives expectations and the country's security policies, will immediately want to get themselves broadcast on every available airwave and virtual platform, that they might issue an immediate apology for their failures to uphold their oaths of office, as well as identifying the self-imposed public services they will support and engage upon to repay society.



A: Ulysses S Grant 1885
B: William McKinley 1899
C: Theodore Roosevelt 1908
D: Franklin Roosevelt 1945


ps. Historians are clearly waiting for things to work themselves out, but various surveys consistently place trump in the bottom five. https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/presidents-ranked-worst-best/4/ This seems likely only to get worse in the next decade, and when it becomes official that T caused an insurrection, perhaps they'll finally realize that's actually worse than "not doing enough to prevent the civil war".

PhantomOfTheCopier fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Oct 5, 2022

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!
Well it's a florping month away but presumably faster than the 11th would normally hear an appeal.
https://twitter.com/roblegare/status/1577705335418195968?s=21

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



PhantomOfTheCopier posted:

Well it's a florping month away but presumably faster than the 11th would normally hear an appeal.
https://twitter.com/roblegare/status/1577705335418195968?s=21

A month and change?

That's pretty loving fast for a federal appellate court, isn't it? Like, 1/10th or less of the usual wait?

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!

Xiahou Dun posted:

A month and change?

That's pretty loving fast for a federal appellate court, isn't it? Like, 1/10th or less of the usual wait?
Maybe if they appealed to the 3rd circuit it would only take 3/11ths the time? :downsowned:

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 7 days!)

Well it's in the south so you might have expected 3/5

gregday
May 23, 2003

https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1578138731432878080

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!
Erm, were the 6hr of missing call logs among the documents recovered in the search? Page6 here refers to recovered calls

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763.40.0.pdf

But it's not clear those are logs from January 6.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
Think the court will go along?

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1577887661217484804

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
This motherfucker...

https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1578169988178882560

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mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Something is happening right now.

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