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Anybody here have an opinion on Pagan: Fate of Roanoke?
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# ? Aug 31, 2022 22:52 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 14:01 |
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Spent $200 on it, so people better only say nice things.
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# ? Aug 31, 2022 23:02 |
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Jove posted:Anybody here have an opinion on Pagan: Fate of Roanoke? It's very hard as a casual player to get to grips with the non mechanical decision making, especially around all the bluff mechanics. Mechanically it's very easy to understand how to play and a very smooth system, but it feels like it'll take a serious number of plays to understand the importance of each set of decisions you make. It is a good time but you can easily stymie yourself by not keeping some enemy board removal cards available, and there's not a lot of them in the basic decks. I've enjoyed playing it and would recommend it, but do treat it more like a cool card based boardgame than an LCG.
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 00:06 |
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I got the Angmar campaign box and I do not understand why they make the box so god drat big. It's as large as Spirit Island and has a big plastic tray, and all the cards that come in it only fill up about 1/5 of it. If you put in all the player cards from the Angmar cycles you might fill around half of it. At least this one works as storage though, the player card box didn't (and was also about 6x as large as it needed to be). e: also I'm annoyed it didn't come with any nice dividers like the "Return to" boxes in Arkham lcg had. sirtommygunn fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Sep 2, 2022 |
# ? Sep 2, 2022 15:54 |
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How's the new campaign structure? Does it feel anything like an Arkham Horror campaign?
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# ? Sep 3, 2022 04:43 |
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Haven't gotten a chance to play it yet, and probably won't for some time as I prefer to go through it normally first. There's no story branching choices like in Arkham and without an xp system there's not a reason to do much deckbuilding through the campaign. Most scenarios give you a chance to get boon cards by basically completing a side quest, either permanents that start in play attached to a specific hero or just powerful cards to add to your deck. There is a lot more story to it than earlier cycles, including an epilogue so the story actually finishes. I've never played campaign mode before so I thought I'd look up the rules for it in the campaign guide, but that just says to refer to the learn to play rulebook. It does not mention that these rules are only in the revised core set rulebook, and the original rulebook is still what comes up in a google search for lotr learn to play, so that was also annoying.
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# ? Sep 3, 2022 14:01 |
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Do Ghost Spider and Spiderman both need to be in alter ego to play Young Love? It seems unplayable if that is the case. Not bad, literally impossible to play 99% of the time.
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# ? Sep 5, 2022 21:14 |
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It can be played with heroes or ally cards. It can also be triggered when Miles plays his dual identity card and flips, before he flips back. It’s specific in its use case, but it’s also three times better than first aid and costs the same.
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# ? Sep 5, 2022 21:25 |
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Cyclops deck got leaked in full thanks to broken street date in EU, lol. Looks solid enough. How good Peni ended up being compared to how cautious I was means that I like to hold my judgement a bit more before I actually get some games out.
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# ? Sep 8, 2022 00:57 |
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Marked feels like an amazing card frame when you cares about overkill, whereas the upgrade that gives minions minus attack is super good versus collector. stand there and bash yourself to defeat against Captain America shield!
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# ? Sep 8, 2022 02:32 |
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Yeah the minus attack from Minions looked awesome to me. Opens up some new options where it’s fine to let minions sit on the board.
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# ? Sep 8, 2022 02:35 |
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Make a custom campaign! Be creative! Absolutely no custom cards. Lawyers ruin everything.
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# ? Sep 8, 2022 04:28 |
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CitizenKeen posted:Make a custom campaign! Be creative! My thoughts exactly, but at the same time all it would take is someone just submitting some custom thing they copied from all those creators out there for there to be some kind of big tuff over who owns/created the third party stuff originally. I have a friend in copyright law and I never bothered to ask him what the rules are regarding what's pretty much the same idea as Skyrim mods. Also ditto what was said regarding Cyclops. Having an overkill attachment is very helpful for the "excess damage" theme.
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# ? Sep 8, 2022 10:40 |
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Storm preview today. Finally, leadership cards and leadership X-Men!
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# ? Sep 8, 2022 17:26 |
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One of the little things that I found very exciting was that the Forge ally specifically mentions X-Force allies in addition to X-Men ones. Can't wait for Cable! Hopefully not Kid Cable, although I wouldn't mind seeing other newer characters, like Hope, in that line-up. Storm herself looks pretty good. Another mode changing hero but this time her modes have board-wide effects which is pretty fun.
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# ? Sep 8, 2022 18:23 |
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I know they’re all in on X-Men, but if there was ever a time for a Black Panther Protection Ally, I think it’s now.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 01:08 |
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Storm gonna be an interesting character to get used to, but I can see her being a really good justice or protection deck as well. I'll pick that pack up regardless because those Leadership cards are gonna be way too good not to slip into a Cyclops deck. I'm like 95% sure the last 2 will be Gambit and Rogue.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 17:27 |
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Jove posted:Anybody here have an opinion on Pagan: Fate of Roanoke? I got my copy a few months ago and love playing it when I get the chance. Artwork is top notch, it's hella fun to play and after a few sessions, a typical game takes around 30-45 mins (which is important to know as getting to grips with it in the beginning makes the game feel way slower and analytically methodical than it actually is). Once you've got the hang of it, it's basically an extremely polished asymmetrical deduction based battle of wits and very deserving of it's Android: Netrunner comparisons. Also - and this is massively to it's credit - similar to A:NR, you never feel cheated by lack of options in your approach to playing. Basically, get Pagan. Pagan owns. The Discord channel is super friendly and welcoming too.
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# ? Sep 10, 2022 21:06 |
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Mutant Genesis fully spoiled it seems. Feels like Aggression is getting a buff simply by there being a lot of minion heavy sets and those minions having long life bars.
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# ? Sep 19, 2022 16:24 |
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What is it with the big box heroes not getting Hero Allies? Only Spider-Woman and Hawkeye did - the six big box heroes (plus Colossus and Kitty Pryde) don't have built-in allies. And other than Venom, all the non-big box heroes do.
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# ? Sep 19, 2022 22:58 |
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CitizenKeen posted:What is it with the big box heroes not getting Hero Allies? They expect people to play the heroes together and the ally would end up a dead card in that situation. They instead give a grey version that is really powerful but requires having a matching trait so you can include the ally if you aren't playing two-player with an obvious team-up.
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# ? Sep 19, 2022 23:04 |
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KPC_Mammon posted:They expect people to play the heroes together and the ally would end up a dead card in that situation. They instead give a grey version that is really powerful but requires having a matching trait so you can include the ally if you aren't playing two-player with an obvious team-up. That seems short sighted. Also ignore me: Kitty Pryde is a Colossus ally.
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# ? Sep 19, 2022 23:59 |
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Spectrum and Adam warlock both received hero allies; Blue marvel and Pitt(?) the troll. Rocket and Groot didn’t, neither did the the web warriors. So we have two boxes with, two without, one 50-50.
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# ? Sep 20, 2022 05:58 |
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I guess I am bad at counting things on marvelcdb.com
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# ? Sep 20, 2022 11:27 |
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Head's up if you're pre-ordering in Canada. Looks like Phoenix has been delayed to Oct 28th.
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# ? Sep 24, 2022 14:27 |
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Where’d you find that at? It’s hard to find any news about Canadian release dates because all the online sites I use tend to never actually list the date.
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# ? Sep 24, 2022 14:51 |
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Lion Rampant seems to be the Canadian exclusive distributor. I saw a mention on FB about an LGS stating there was a delay, so I went and had a look: https://www.lionrampantimports.com/marvel-champions-lcg-phoenix-hero-pack-oct-28-2022-ffgmc34en Kinda sucks, but at least I didn't pre-order before I heard about it. I need the new stuff for my channel to be relevant, lol. Shameless plug: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCivsbnAjLniR_vAifqQ1u0Q.
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# ? Sep 24, 2022 16:03 |
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todays the day for muties
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 15:19 |
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So it seems the last two heroes in this X-Men cycle are confirmed as Rogue and Gambit thanks to FFG putting out dividers as promos, two of which feature them in addition to all previously released heroes and villains.
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 19:40 |
My Cyclops came in, but X-Men and Phoenix are still processing. Had to go with someone else for Cyclops as my local store was sold out of his preorders. The place across the country shipped so it would get here on release day whereas my local place didn't start processing my order until today. Gambit might charge up like Captain Marvel. I'll be curious how they handle Rogue. If they make her superman by default or if she starts weak and has to absorb powers to get better, and if it weakens her target at all.
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 20:04 |
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I assume she'll be able to siphon ally atk/thw for the turn or something similar.
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 20:08 |
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I would suspect that she'll have the powers from Carol as an upgrade, something that gives her aerial and +1 ATK. The power siphon thing is interesting because mechanically you wouldn't want to force her into having to run and maintain a bunch of allies as that would kind of limit her design and we really haven't seen any heroes do that. You'd ideally want her to stand on her own, but have stuff in her kit that lets her take advantage of them, so maybe some kind of design where you can exhaust allies as an additional cost to playing her attacks/thwarts/defense cards for extra stats. It's definitely going to be interesting to see what they do with her as she, compared to most of the other heroes, should have a really radically different playstyle. Gambit should be pretty easy in that you should be able to do something like spend an energy resource to give him a charge counter, and then all his attack cards let you blow those counters for extra damage.
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 20:43 |
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It seems pretty obvious that The Southerners were next. They were in the campaign comic book alongside wolverine. Rogue could theoretically just debuff the villain to buff herself. There’s also the idea of her getting recursion from her discard pile, doing a lot of flying, and getting a lot of tough status cards. Gambit could do literally anything, he’s a card guy and it’s a card game. Looking at the encounter deck is a common custom theme, looking at the prices of cards and building poker hands, putting cards up his sleeve, using the staff and the fact that he’s a thief… odds are 60% that his alter ego quote is something like “the X-Men or heroes. I’m thief.” And 80% that the hero quote is "The gentleman assumes the pot is his to win... but I have a literal ace up my sleeve."
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 20:51 |
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Golden Bee posted:It seems pretty obvious that The Southerners were next. They were in the campaign comic book alongside wolverine. Alter Ego flavor text: It not you. Hero Flavor text: It Gambit. I like your idea of having Gambit meta game the deck, that would be pretty cool. Actually a thematic tie-in, since he throws cards might be to make it so rather than charging up via a counter system, he can just add ATK to any attack by (literally throwing cards)discarding cards from your hand.
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 21:04 |
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wild to not do deadpool but maybe he gets his own thing how do you get promo dividers
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 21:27 |
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PaybackJack posted:Alter Ego flavor text: It not you. Someone made a gambit who did more damage if you physically threw the cards 😂
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 22:01 |
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John Romero posted:wild to not do deadpool but maybe he gets his own thing I had preordered from Boardlandia and the dividers were included. I don't know what I did to get them other than that.
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# ? Sep 30, 2022 23:11 |
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Boy, Colossus kinda sucks. I’m going to switch his aspect but I think they whiffed hard on him, especially if they wanted him as a defensive aspect main. His def stat at only 2 means that even with the armour on him he usually might take hits if he blocks. Not great when you want to keep tough cards on. Then i realized looking at his core set of cards, he has zero cards for dealing with threat. All his threat removal comes from aspect cards. That just makes defensive play for him even worse because defence as it is doesn’t deal with threat great. Look at Drax where he can still some decent thwart if you keep up his tokens properly. I’m gonna switch him to aggression and probably switch Shadowcat to defence. I think a lot of people are going to sour on Colossus. He’s going to take a bit of work to make good.
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# ? Oct 2, 2022 19:13 |
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You might want him in justice, for the card draw and thw. Alternately, you might wanna use the zero cost defense event so he’s technically defending and can trigger unflappable, because he defended and didn’t take damage. The campaign has some truly nasty boost effects. Remember, the flip on solid is optional, the flip on phased is not.
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# ? Oct 2, 2022 19:41 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 14:01 |
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The Black Stones posted:Boy, Colossus kinda sucks. I’m going to switch his aspect but I think they whiffed hard on him, especially if they wanted him as a defensive aspect main. His def stat at only 2 means that even with the armour on him he usually might take hits if he blocks. Not great when you want to keep tough cards on. Then i realized looking at his core set of cards, he has zero cards for dealing with threat. All his threat removal comes from aspect cards. Didn't you also hate Groot? Who was the last defense-oriented protection hero that you actually liked? Not counting heroes who smash things while in protection. It just feels like you don't like defending and that's OK. Not every playstyle is for every player.
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# ? Oct 2, 2022 20:43 |