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neongrey posted:you know i havent actually watched that, i was just riffing IIRC it was more that airplanes were never very popular compared to zeppelin travel. That said Fringe was pretty good. It really scratched that X-Files itch for me back in the day.
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Horizon Burning posted:i think even tamsyn muir herself has mentioned how that quote about lesbian necromancers in space is really not accurate to the novel Yeah, but not because there aren't lesbians in the book. cptn_dr posted:Someone's still a lesbian even when they aren't actively having sex with another woman, hth And yes, this, very much so.
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cptn_dr posted:Someone's still a lesbian even when they aren't actively having sex with another woman, hth Yeah, they're kind of too busy figuring out how not to get dead.
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Groke posted:Yeah, they're kind of too busy figuring out how not to get dead. Or at least how to maintain consciousness, sentience and mobility while dead. Actually being organically alive becomes increasingly optional as the series progresses. Gayness is still very much a thing.
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Elric of Melniboné (#1) by Michael Moorcock - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VJLT6RS/ Prosper's Demon (#1) by KJ Parker - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W3DTYSS/ The Brothers Cabal (Johannes Cabal #4) by Jonathan L Howard - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IW3MQGS/ Peace on Earth (From the Memoirs of Tijon Ichy #4) by Stanislaw Lem - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008533DBW/ Traitor's Blade (Greatcoats #1) by Sebastien de Castell - $0.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TV2K5NC/
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There is that one threesome with God which is pretty gay.
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dios apatgay
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Read the first two books of the Nexus series by Ramez Naam over two days this week. God drat I love sci fi thrillers, the only other books that can keep me this hooked are, like, Agatha Christie mystery novels Nexus is another technothriller/cyberpunk series about a world changing technology. This time it's basically the sudden introduction of neural laces or similar - people willing to take the illegal drug get a brain computer and the ability to basically telepathically talk and share memories etc. It explores the ups and downs of that (particularly, using it to physically control people) in brutal detail. Pretty gruesome at times but for some reason that seems to be the rule with this sub-genre
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Oct 1, 2022 19:35
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Doing the locked tomb re-read to get to Nona, man Harrow is a different book the second time through.
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cptn_dr posted:Someone's still a lesbian even when they aren't actively having sex with another woman, hth  sexual orientation label-wise)The cover quote doesn't really match the content. It's kind of like if the blurb quote for Baru was "A thrilling high seas adventure!" because there's some boats in them.
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Oct 1, 2022 22:01
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I don't think that's quite fair; the Locked Tomb books are suffused with gay energy in a way that not many books are.
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Oct 1, 2022 22:12
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I love my dead, gay books.
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Oct 1, 2022 23:25
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Taz Muir posted:I was surprised when Tor.com just straight-up said “We’re leaning into the lesbian thing.” I expected for the gay thing to be crypto, especially as the first Gideon the Ninth is very lesbian but arguably does not contain lesbian romance. Tor.com went straight with Charlie Stross’s wonderful blurb of “Lesbian necromancers!”. Some people have argued that this is misleading (Gideon, the protagonist, is lesbian but not a necromancer) but this is not fair. Gideon sucks all the attention away from the actual, more deserving lesbian necromancers. If she stopped flexing, you’d notice them. hth
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AARD VARKMAN posted:Read the first two books of the Nexus series by Ramez Naam over two days this week. God drat I love sci fi thrillers, the only other books that can keep me this hooked are, like, Agatha Christie mystery novels I read those a few years ago and really enjoyed them. Wish I could find more like that.
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Sibling of TB posted:Doing the locked tomb re-read to get to Nona, man Harrow is a different book the second time through. Right?! Gideon too tbh
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Oct 1, 2022 23:40
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Once you get halfway through Harrow/all of Nona the sexualities become less important (?) as multiple people inhabit the same or multiple bodies I just finished Nona and it was pretty confusing after a long lay off since I read Harrow. Worth noting the the Locked Tomb trilogy has become a four books series so don't expect closure.
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Thanergay.
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Neat, just found it there's a $5 credit for Kindle books if you buy it with an echo. Never got an email about it, so figured someone else might be surprised too.
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Foxfire_ posted:The cover quote doesn't really match the content. It's kind of like if the blurb quote for Baru was "A thrilling high seas adventure!" because there's some boats in them. The Locked Tomb pitch of "lesbian necromancers in space" put me off reading the books for years and I hate how it puts the emphasis on the surface level traits of the story. The other one I detest equally as much is Green Bone Saga being pitched as "Asian Godfather with jade powered magic and martial arts". Like yes okay clearly that's the setting but that's not what the story IS. I just finished both Shadow and Bone and The Oleander Sword. I did not like Shadow and Bone. I thought maybe what annoyed me about the YA books I don't like is the way they're written, but it turns out even if the prose is better, I still don't like its tropes. The Oleander Sword, though, is a very good sequel to a very good first book. Character work remains top notch, no punches are pulled and foreshadowing is delivered upon and everybody is ruthless. It's great.
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from what I remember basically none of those words describe the first ninth book well lol. if they said it was about exploring a sci Fi Winchester mansion it would actually be accurate
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The cover of Harrow also has a quote describing it as "unsettling as a broken tooth", which... no? not really?
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Lesbian necromancers in space moved it to priority #1 spot for me, so it clearly works on some targets. Idk, I don't think it's that inaccurate.
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I enjoyed the new Twenty Palaces novel a lot. The afterward says that the next one will be published in 2022 as well.
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On the subject of ladies kissing and holding hands, I read through Rise of Kyoshi in about a week and I enjoyed it immensely. I didn't have much expectation since sometimes expanded universe books to existing IP end up being kinda dull or bad - just something an author does for a paycheck without any kind of passion. Not this one. Books was super good - it had an edge to it that both the series lacked and wasn't sexless (but I can forgive that since they were literal children's cartoons). Kyoshi was allowed to be attracted and horny for all the pretty boys and girls she meets. Its prose were lyrical and were pleasant with flowerly and descriptive language without going over the edge to eye-rolling "get on with it" descriptions. Even if you weren't a fan of the shows or didn't see them I think there'd be something here for you. It is written in such a way that if you do have knowledge of the world you'll get a few references and paint a picture of some of the city names they bring up but it's largely divorced from Last Airbender and Korra. If I had to criticize anything is that I would have liked the middle section to be more indepth and Kyoshi going on more adventures with her found family and I thought the final climax felt kinda rushed but beyond that it was breezy read with a lot of intense and eventful scenes. But yeah, if you want some good YA fantasy you can't go wrong with this one. Makes me wish they'd turn it into a series, would love to see a lot of this expanded upon, Kyoshi's struggles are vastly different from Aang's and Korra's.
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Started reading Gideon the Ninth, was put off by the dramatis personae section I’ll presumably have to inconveniently flip back to constantly, on my Kindle. Realized it was YA, which the amazon entry didn’t mention, and stopped reading in disgust. Now I’m not saying child characters shouldn’t exist in fiction, just that they should be killed early on in order to motivate the actual protagonists, who are adults, to action.
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Nigmaetcetera posted:Started reading Gideon the Ninth, was put off by the dramatis personae section I’ll presumably have to inconveniently flip back to constantly, on my Kindle. Realized it was YA, which the amazon entry didn’t mention, and stopped reading in disgust. Now I’m not saying child characters shouldn’t exist in fiction, just that they should be killed early on in order to motivate the actual protagonists, who are adults, to action. It’s impossible to tell if this is jokeposting or serious
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Larry Parrish posted:exploring a sci Fi Winchester mansion it would actually be accurate Gideon the Ninth: House of Suns with less body transfers Nigmaetcetera posted:Started reading Gideon the Ninth, was put off by the dramatis personae section I’ll presumably have to inconveniently flip back to constantly, on my Kindle. Realized it was YA, which the amazon entry didn’t mention, and stopped reading in disgust. Now I’m not saying child characters shouldn’t exist in fiction, just that they should be killed early on in order to motivate the actual protagonists, who are adults, to action. I agree, and furthermore I think that at the end of old yeller, old yeller should have had to shoot his own rabid puppy
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Nigmaetcetera posted:Started reading Gideon the Ninth, was put off by the dramatis personae section I’ll presumably have to inconveniently flip back to constantly, on my Kindle. Realized it was YA, which the amazon entry didn’t mention, and stopped reading in disgust. Now I’m not saying child characters shouldn’t exist in fiction, just that they should be killed early on in order to motivate the actual protagonists, who are adults, to action. If it helps  MAJOR GtN spoiler! Hundreds of children WERE murdered to create one of the adult protags
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secular woods sex posted:I enjoyed the new Twenty Palaces novel a lot. The afterward says that the next one will be published in 2022 as well. Yeah, I liked it too, although I had hoped it might move the bigger plot along more.
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a foolish pianist posted:It’s impossible to tell if this is jokeposting or serious Whichever one makes me appear less foolish, I guess.
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Nigmaetcetera posted:Started reading Gideon the Ninth, was put off by the dramatis personae section I’ll presumably have to inconveniently flip back to constantly, on my Kindle. Realized it was YA, which the amazon entry didn’t mention, and stopped reading in disgust. Now I’m not saying child characters shouldn’t exist in fiction, just that they should be killed early on in order to motivate the actual protagonists, who are adults, to action. Source your quotes
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i skip every reading tutorial - character guides, naming conventions, lovely middle schooler maps, all of it. if the writing is so lovely i cant remember your characters and if your uh, "world building" is so trash i need even more extraneous crap to describe it, i'm prolly just gonna apply my patented terrible book technique and skip to the end and be done with it. I just finished The Once and Future Witches by Alix Harrow & it was a good read. Witches & suffragettes in 1890. If you pick it apart there are probably some spots where it doesn't hold together super well, and the ending was maybe a little bit pat, but overall it had a neat blend of distorted fairytales & folklore and a nice emotional core. It's pretty dark, but I think she plays it really, really well - she dips into sort of "real grim" style but doesn't jump straight into lovely grim torture porn grossout bs. Just characters dealing with hard hands.
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Jimbot posted:Makes me wish they'd turn it into a series, would love to see a lot of this expanded upon, Kyoshi's struggles are vastly different from Aang's and Korra's. Just to make sure, you are aware that it is a two-parter and are talking about both of them, right? Personally I liked the first book more than the second. But Shadow of Kyoshi had some fun political schemes and some cool world building with regards to society and etiquette. The second book is also a bit more overt with their gayness. I also loved how these books really established what a huge failure the previous water Avatar was. Just a naive surfer dude who mostly just wanted to be in peace but accidentally caused calamities sometimes. Also it was cool to get a backstory for these battle fans and the makeup. Making her mother a dead beat air monad criminal was a surprising but quite fitting choice. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Oct 2, 2022 |
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Nigmaetcetera posted:Started reading Gideon the Ninth, was put off by the dramatis personae section I’ll presumably have to inconveniently flip back to constantly, on my Kindle. Realized it was YA, which the amazon entry didn’t mention, and stopped reading in disgust. Now I’m not saying child characters shouldn’t exist in fiction, just that they should be killed early on in order to motivate the actual protagonists, who are adults, to action. A lack of character-motivating child murder is a problem that many of the books you read will suffer from, gideon is not one of them
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cant cook creole bream posted:Just to make sure, you are aware that it is a two-parter and are talking about both of them, right? I only read the first one. I wasn't sure about the quality (I did hear good things, though) so I only picked up the first book. Gonna get the second one at some point. But yeah, "I liked the first book more than the second" seems to be the general consensus. Still, I liked the first one quite a lot so if the second one is lesser then I foresee it still being a great read.
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Nigmaetcetera posted:Started reading Gideon the Ninth, was put off by the dramatis personae section I’ll presumably have to inconveniently flip back to constantly, on my Kindle. Realized it was YA, which the amazon entry didn’t mention, and stopped reading in disgust. Now I’m not saying child characters shouldn’t exist in fiction, just that they should be killed early on in order to motivate the actual protagonists, who are adults, to action.  (harrow)hark at this onepull the other one, it hath got bells on oh don't worry, two of them are already dead and one is a remotely operated corpse piloted by an ancient, immortal necromancer anyway! most of the cast dies horribly, alone, afraid and in pain. some of them multiple times!!!
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Just finished Nona. Loved it. The religious themes feel considerably more … concrete ? Catholic? compared to Gideon and Harrow. John is almost literally the second coming (kind of) Read some more reviews saying this one was hard to follow and imo people need to get better at reading. lmao at John’s last name
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I am back on my Taylor Anderson bullshit again with Destroyermen. Or, more properly, book 2 of the Artillerymen prequel series. I am only a few chapters in and poo poo's good. I have a lot of respect for this series, especially since it manages to handle the concept and idea of "Always Evil Races" better than 90% of sci-fi and fantasy by going "There's no such loving thing as a race or culture or ethnicity that is inherently and always evil, and you're a loving rear end in a top hat if you think that."
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Gato The Elder posted:Just finished Nona. Loved it. The religious themes feel considerably more … concrete ? Catholic? compared to Gideon and Harrow. John is almost literally the second coming (kind of) I have thoughts on the John flashbacks/lies: John is lying to the earth and to the reader in his flashbacks. He admits to altering peoples memories post-resurrection and is then caught in an inconsistency around which bomb went off first. There’s also something we’re missing about the role of Gideon the First and his relation to John and Alecto/Real God/Earth/Whatever. It might be as simple as “god doesn’t make mistakes. he always knew he was going to nuke the world and he sent Gideon to die.” Uuhhhh what else. The Lyctors are glorified sacrifices and John seems mostly concerned with getting those trillionaires
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Gato The Elder posted:Just finished Nona. Loved it. The religious themes feel considerably more … concrete ? Catholic? compared to Gideon and Harrow. John is almost literally the second coming (kind of)
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