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How many quarters after Q1 2016 till Marissa Mayer is unemployed?
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	Her job is guaranteed; what are you even talking about?

GhostofJohnMuir: Aug 14, 2014; anime is not good

i also wonder what the expense per student looks like, and how much of the expense is education related and how much is social service. if things like extra campus security, free or reduced price meals, transportation, etc. are funded through the listed per student funding, poorer districts are generally going to be spending a larger proportion of the per person funding on things other than teachers, counselors, extra-curriculars, etc

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 00:44

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Official funding is only one piece of the puzzle.

Rich schools can much more effectively solicit donations because the parents have money to donate in furtherance of their kids' education, and also you're more likely to be a guy or know a guy who would like a sweet tax deduction for the retail value of a bunch of fancy poo poo you pay wholesale for.

# ? Oct 1, 2022 02:46

Jaxyon: Mar 7, 2016; I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr posted:

7% funding difference between the richest and poorest districts doesn�t seem like much, and surely isn�t enough to affect the outcomes that much

The literal study posted:

Across the country, the highest poverty districts receive about
$1,000, or 7 percent, less per pupil in state and local funding than
the lowest poverty districts.

These gaps add up, and there is evidence that closing them can
have a lasting impact on student achievement.12 For example, in
a district with 5,000 students, that gap means nearly $5 million in
missing resources.

# ? Oct 1, 2022 03:13

Volmarias: Dec 31, 2002; EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

$1000 buys a lot of pencils.

And GDPR violating computers.

# ? Oct 1, 2022 03:27

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Yeah my wife�s school and mine were a mile apart when we were teaching but we like to joke Mine was in Pawnee and hers was in Eagleton. My neighborhood was the 50 year old houses that were rented out and hers were new McMansions. Our extra fundraising goal in private donations was $15k and it was a Miracle if we made it. Her schools was $100k and they easily made it every year. Our back to school week usually had 1-3 mayonnaise based casseroles each day brought by parents. Her school back to school week was catered by a different chain like Chipotle or Noodles each night. There�s a lot of shadow funding from parents.

# ? Oct 1, 2022 03:38

Jaxyon: Mar 7, 2016; I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Also "the funding is even in some states" is massively silly because nominally even isn't the same thing as equitable.

For the same reason that flat taxes are dumb as gently caress, funding for education needs to be progressive, not equal.

# ? Oct 1, 2022 03:53

Xand_Man: Mar 2, 2004; If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous

Another thing about rich schools is that the kids' parents are more likely to have flexible hours or even a full-time stay at home parent so they have more-active PTAs and a larger pool of volunteers

# ? Oct 1, 2022 04:12

Motronic: Nov 6, 2009

silence_kit posted:

You correctly identified earlier that in the US system of government, school funding is mainly provided at the local and state level. So it makes a lot more sense to look at it from a state level,

Do NOT try to put words in my mouth.

School funding that I know is on the COUNTY level. It makes absolutely no sense at all to look at it from the state level. That would be a completely stupid way to look at it.

# ? Oct 1, 2022 05:00

silence_kit: Jul 14, 2011; by the sex ghost

Motronic posted:

Do NOT try to put words in my mouth.

School funding that I know is on the COUNTY level. It makes absolutely no sense at all to look at it from the state level. That would be a completely stupid way to look at it.

Check out the plot on page 8 of the linked source. It looks like in about 1/2 of US states over half of school funding comes from the state level.

# ? Oct 1, 2022 09:22

duz: Jul 11, 2005; Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost

Deuce posted:

Are they adding a loving propeller because how the gently caress does he think it�s gonna move or steer.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/744551674082136066

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Harold Fjord: Jan 3, 2004

The additional $ for poor students are insufficient because they come nowhere near matching the home income disparities they are trying to paper over.

# ? Oct 1, 2022 15:53

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

duz posted:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/744551674082136066

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Harold Fjord: Jan 3, 2004

Mister Facetious posted:

loving beautiful mate

# ? Oct 1, 2022 15:59

Heck Yes! Loam!: Nov 15, 2004; a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

Mister Facetious posted:

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Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Tesla can also function as a bonfire, briefly. So versatile.

# ? Oct 1, 2022 16:11

Xand_Man: Mar 2, 2004; If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous

duz posted:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/744551674082136066

It must be a special kind of hell to be in Tesla's legal department

# ? Oct 1, 2022 16:50

Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Xand_Man posted:

It must be a special kind of hell to be in Tesla's legal department

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527774704018280448?lang=en

# ? Oct 1, 2022 16:54

Antigravitas: Dec 8, 2019; Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

Foxfire_ posted:

Is the automatic lifecycle deletion fast enough to purge everything within the time limit for a deletion request? Does anyone ever actually explicitly ask for deletion in practice? What do you do with linked records? Like do you have "Teacher X's 2021 class was these 20 kids" records that need to get kids purged out of them or do those not exist to begin with?

Your backups sound fancy. I'm used to whole database ones where you would revert everything to an old state instead of being set up to easily cherry pick records (+ if the current server caught fire and you have none of it, how do you identify students that were right-erase'ed between the most recent backup and now?)

Can't speak for the OLAT people, but we just don't keep a lot of data in the first place. There are records that we need to keep regardless, just like you can't demand a company strike you from their financial records.

There's nothing fancy about it. "Can I resolve this ID to a user? No? Then we won't need this anymore". We primarily store user profiles, mails, print accounting records (for a month).

And no, I haven't seen a deletion request. Though I guess it's implied when people leave our org.

What I wish a student would do is an information request. We know where everything is and can service it, but I know for a fact that the org at large does not. So I could lean back and eat popcorn (smugly, because I told them this was important).

# ? Oct 1, 2022 18:08

Shrecknet: Jan 2, 2005

withak posted:

Seems like "don't fly into power lines" should be a basic function of all drones.

if $OBJECT would crash
then;
#DONT

Bing bang bong, so simple

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PhazonLink: Jul 17, 2010

Code is Flaw.

# ? Oct 2, 2022 01:34

Roadie: Jun 30, 2013

I find it bizarre that there are people in this thread who think the only options are "give all your data to a US bigcorp" or "don't have computers". That Danish school system would have been fine with the "one guy running an Active Directory system with a single server rack" solution that my bumfuck nowhere high school had in the pre-Google days.

# ? Oct 2, 2022 03:49

Kyte: Nov 19, 2013; Never quacked for this

Roadie posted:

I find it bizarre that there are people in this thread who think the only options are "give all your data to a US bigcorp" or "don't have computers". That Danish school system would have been fine with the "one guy running an Active Directory system with a single server rack" solution that my bumfuck nowhere high school had in the pre-Google days.

"One guy running AD on a single server" doesn't cover giving hardware to students, though.
And I imagine selling your soul to google comes with additional e-learning perks like collaboration platforms and whatnot.

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Vegetable: Oct 22, 2010

I get the privacy concerns but chromebooks are a good fit for schools tbh.

# ? Oct 2, 2022 19:30

Weatherman: Jul 30, 2003; WARBLEKLONK

Vegetable posted:

I get the privacy concerns but chromebooks are a good fit for schools tbh.

If there are privacy concerns then they are not a good fit for schools.

# ? Oct 2, 2022 19:54

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

Linux! Linux! Linux! :getin:

:monkeypaw:

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SCheeseman: Apr 23, 2003

Fedora Silverblue/Kinoite or similar would be a decent fit for something like this, but they're not quite fully baked yet. Immutable filesystem and no package management means they're hard for end users to break and there's no data harvesting happening by default.

# ? Oct 2, 2022 20:10

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

If Google wants the benefits that come from being a required purchase for entire swathes of school districts they can afford to set the system up to comply with privacy laws. It's really that simple.

# ? Oct 2, 2022 20:14

Antigravitas: Dec 8, 2019; Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

I think it's reasonable to expect that a nation state would allocate the resources to run an e-learning system for its students that doesn't leak PII like a sieve, tbh.

# ? Oct 2, 2022 20:17

SCheeseman: Apr 23, 2003

Absurd Alhazred posted:

If Google wants the benefits that come from being a required purchase for entire swathes of school districts they can afford to set the system up to comply with privacy laws. It's really that simple.

Google can gently caress off, there is no reason to trust them to do anything right.

# ? Oct 2, 2022 20:36

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

I'm not saying telling Google to gently caress off isn't also an option. :shrug:

# ? Oct 2, 2022 20:56

Mega Comrade: Apr 22, 2004; Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Mister Facetious posted:

Linux! Linux! Linux! :monkeypaw:

Chromebook! Oh wait no!!!

# ? Oct 2, 2022 21:09

Kwyndig: Sep 23, 2006; Heeeeeey

Linux is a good choice if you have an IT staff with chops in Linux development which is something a lot of school districts do not have. But I'd say Android tablets would be the best hardware/software solution. You can use custom firmware to lock the things down and there's plenty of vetted apps that won't steal your personal information.

# ? Oct 2, 2022 22:54

mllaneza: Apr 28, 2007; Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

Tuxedo Gin posted:

7% funding difference (about $1000, they say,per student) is significant. In a school of 500 students that is half a million dollars. That is the salary for 5~8 teachers. That could have a huge impact on student-teacher ratios.

Or, that could fund an art or music program for a year. Or an after school program that gives students a safe and supportive place to study and play rather than returning home probably alone or hangin out on the street.

7% doesn't seem like it would be a lot, but when most schools are running on completely slashed budgets as it is, it could make a huge difference.

It's also going to put huge pressure on maintenance budgets. Rooms don't get cleaned as often, burned out lightbulbs aren't replaced promptly, the place never gets new paint, and that's just the little stuff. The poor students are learning in squalor, the rich students get brightly lit, clean, and attractive classrooms. If you're trying to keep at-risk students in the educational system, soft factors like that make a real difference in outcomes.

# ? Oct 3, 2022 00:36

SCheeseman: Apr 23, 2003

Kwyndig posted:

Linux is a good choice if you have an IT staff with chops in Linux development which is something a lot of school districts do not have. But I'd say Android tablets would be the best hardware/software solution. You can use custom firmware to lock the things down and there's plenty of vetted apps that won't steal your personal information.

Android tablets are the worst hardware/software solution for anything. Every commercially available Android tablet would require Google Play services in order to be usable and is thus ultimately under the thumb of Google. Any AOSP fork would require some kind of organization to manage it, so instead of a custom Android distribution they might as well go with a custom Linux distribution with a web browser pre-installed, centralized updates and limited ability to gently caress with it, which is basically a Chromebook only without the Google part.

# ? Oct 3, 2022 00:47

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Google's whole deal is a wide ecosystem of poo poo that's basically very functional, and exceptionally cheap monetarily because you will pay in monetizable data rather than currency.

It's not a good fit for schools, for this reason, but the end result is that all the alternatives are going to be a lot more expensive. Someone will get paid for the expense involved, somehow.

# ? Oct 3, 2022 02:47