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LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Redeye Flight posted:

Isn't that the same Brett Bielema's Fighting Illini who humiliated Penn State at home, on homecoming, in nine overtimes last year?

I say humiliated like a game that went to 9OT wasn't peak clownball, but still, if that was year one of the rebuild then when it actually completes that could be a scary-lookin' program.

It is.

I hope Bielema does well there. Illinois has suffered enough.

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Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer

dirty shrimp money posted:

This edition of the dirty shrimp poll still don't rank Kansas high enough -

pre:
Delta	Team			Record	Score		Conference Rankings	
+5	1. Clemson		5-0	3.0824		1. SEC			1.2192
-	2. Georgia		5-0	2.9092		2. Big 12		1.1512
+2	3. Ohio State		5-0	2.8190		3. Big 10		0.9664
+7	4. Ole Miss		5-0	2.7335		4. ACC			0.8462
+10	5. UCLA			5-0	2.6772		5. Pac 12		0.6351
-5	6. USC			5-0	2.6300		6. Sun Belt		-0.0100
+5	7. Syracuse		5-0	2.5963		7. American		-0.1872
-	8. LSU			4-1	2.3328		8. Conference USA	-0.6947
+5	9. Kansas		5-0	2.2010		9. Mountain West	-1.0550
+6	10. Michigan		5-0	2.1607		10. MAC			-1.1150
+17	11. Utah		4-1	2.1596			
+15	12. TCU			4-0	2.0932			
+8	13. Alabama		5-0	2.0562			
+18	14. Wake Forest		4-1	1.9989			
-11	15. Penn State		5-0	1.9479			
-9	16. NC State		4-1	1.8780			
+2	17. Kansas State	4-1	1.8730			
+4	18. James Madison	4-0	1.8668			
-1	19. Illinois		4-1	1.8624			
+4	20. Oregon		4-1	1.8410			
-8	21. Tennessee		4-0	1.7800			
-19	22. Florida State	4-1	1.7792			
-13	23. Washington		4-1	1.7641			
+13	24. Mississippi State	4-1	1.7506			
+9	25. Duke		4-1	1.6737			
						
						
-16	122. Akron		1-4	-1.6297			
-1	123. Hawaii		1-4	-1.6691			
-11	124. Nevada		2-3	-1.6773			
+4	125. Georgia State	1-4	-1.8214			
-10	126. Colorado		0-5	-1.8221			
-1	127. Navy		1-3	-1.9606			
-1	128. Utah State		1-4	-2.2105			
+1	129. Colorado State	0-4	-2.6080			
-2	130. New Mexico State	1-5	-3.0564			
-	131. Charlotte		1-5	-3.2946			



pre:
 
Delta	Team			Rec	Score
-3	26. Cincinnati		4-1	1.6543
+14	27. Oklahoma State	4-0	1.6094
-8	28. Kentucky		4-1	1.5441
+4	29. South Alabama	4-1	1.4858
+16	30. Purdue		3-2	1.4066
-22	31. Minnesota		4-1	1.3582
+7	32. Tulane		4-1	1.2529
+12	33. Coastal Carolina	5-0	1.2368
-17	34. Baylor		3-2	1.1913
-9	35. Iowa State		3-2	1.1488
-6	36. BYU			4-1	1.0772
+7	37. UCF			3-1	1.0399
+17	38. Florida		3-2	1.0328
+24	39. Appalachian State	3-2	0.9738
-15	40. Iowa		3-2	0.9239
+26	41. Maryland		4-1	0.9001
+10	42. UNLV		4-1	0.8982
-3	43. California		3-2	0.8857
-1	44. Oklahoma		3-2	0.8568
+24	45. Marshall		3-2	0.8273
+4	46. Memphis		4-1	0.8106
-6	47. Texas		3-2	0.7438
-18	48. Rutgers		3-2	0.6890
+15	49. Texas A&M		3-2	0.6612
+15	50. Washington State	4-1	0.6612
Delta	Team			Rec	Score
-13	51. Oregon State	3-2	0.6575
+26	52. North Carolina	4-1	0.6529
+27	53. San Jose State	3-1	0.5927
+4	54. Liberty		4-1	0.5774
-26	55. Texas Tech		3-2	0.5571
-21	56. Pittsburgh		3-2	0.5235
+3	57. Air Force		4-1	0.5123
+17	58. Troy		3-2	0.4969
-	59. Vanderbilt		3-2	0.4603
-13	60. Indiana		3-2	0.4383
-25	61. Arkansas		3-2	0.4343
-1	62. Notre Dame		2-2	0.4130
+8	63. Rice		3-2	0.3874
+24	64. Georgia Tech	2-3	0.3134
+11	65. Arizona		3-2	0.3007
-18	66. Western Kentucky	3-2	0.2889
+12	67. SMU			2-2	0.2824
-12	68. Miami (FL)		2-2	0.2725
-15	69. Auburn		3-2	0.2562
-20	70. Wisconsin		2-3	0.1964
-18	71. Louisville		2-3	0.1847
-15	72. Middle Tennessee	3-2	0.1814
+4	73. UAB			2-2	0.1428
-25	74. West Virginia	2-3	0.1317
+23	75. Arkansas State	2-3	0.0487
Delta	Team			Rec	Score
-5	76. Southern Miss	2-2	0.0312
+14	77. Missouri		2-3	0.0299
-17	78. Toledo		3-2	-0.0485
+3	79. Virginia		2-3	-0.0913
-13	80. Georgia Southern	3-2	-0.1105
-13	81. Houston		2-3	-0.1228
+7	82. Tulsa		2-3	-0.1866
-18	83. UTSA		3-2	-0.2116
-21	84. Wyoming		3-3	-0.2319
-	85. Michigan State	2-3	-0.2798
+18	86. New Mexico		2-3	-0.3054
-7	87. Kent State		2-3	-0.3807
-5	88. Miami (OH)		2-3	-0.4100
+5	89. East Carolina	2-2	-0.4188
+17	90. Boston College	2-3	-0.4377
+9	91. South Carolina	3-2	-0.4484
-11	92. Boise State		3-2	-0.4504
+18	93. Louisiana-Monroe	2-3	-0.4680
-1	94. Bowling Green	2-3	-0.5993
-5	95. Louisiana 		2-3	-0.6204
+6	96. San Diego State	2-3	-0.7173
-9	97. Arizona State	1-4	-0.7286
-14	98. Stanford		1-3	-0.7338
+15	99. Fresno State	1-3	-0.7507
-14	100. Nebraska		2-3	-0.7596
Delta	Team			Rec	Score
+5	101. Ohio U		2-3	-0.7614
-7	102. Ball State		2-3	-0.8153
-11	103. Texas State	2-3	-0.8387
+9	104. Virginia Tech	2-3	-0.8797
+13	105. North Texas	3-3	-0.9132
+14	106. Western Michigan	2-3	-0.9360
+1	107. Connecticut	2-4	-0.9538
-5	108. Louisiana Tech	1-3	-0.9694
-13	109. Old Dominion	2-3	-1.0173
-11	110. Temple		2-3	-1.0292
-10	111. Northern Illinois	1-4	-1.1812
+7	112. Central Michigan	1-4	-1.1934
+9	113. Buffalo		2-3	-1.1938
+9	114. Eastern Michigan	3-2	-1.2818
+2	115. UTEP		3-3	-1.3266
-7	116. Florida Intl	2-2	-1.3522
+7	117. South Florida	1-4	-1.4419
-20	118. Northwestern	1-4	-1.4913
-9	119. Army		1-3	-1.4928
-4	120. Florida Atlantic	2-4	-1.5380
-16	121. Massachusetts	1-3	-1.5619

James Madison at 18 is beautiful

e: Why did Tennessee fall 8 spots? Just because of no game last week?

Spacemonkey57
Dec 1, 2004
Per ESPN Stats and Info: Ohio State has scored 49+ points in nine straight games vs Rutgers. That is the longest streak by any team vs a single opponent in the AP Poll Era (since 1936).

Ohio State has to play Rutgers every single year. Thanks again Jim Delaney.

dirty shrimp money
Jan 8, 2001

Joey Freshwater posted:

e: Why did Tennessee fall 8 spots? Just because of no game last week?
Yeah

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

LeeMajors posted:

It is.

I hope Bielema does well there. Illinois has suffered enough.

Getting good at football is the least Illinois can do for Colonel Henry Blake

lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

🏆🏆🏆

dirty shrimp money posted:

This edition of the dirty shrimp poll still don't rank Kansas high enough -

pre:
Delta	Team			Record	Score		Conference Rankings	
+5	1. Clemson		5-0	3.0824		1. SEC			1.2192
-	2. Georgia		5-0	2.9092		2. Big 12		1.1512
+2	3. Ohio State		5-0	2.8190		3. Big 10		0.9664
+7	4. Ole Miss		5-0	2.7335		4. ACC			0.8462
+10	5. UCLA			5-0	2.6772		5. Pac 12		0.6351
-5	6. USC			5-0	2.6300		6. Sun Belt		-0.0100
+5	7. Syracuse		5-0	2.5963		7. American		-0.1872
-	8. LSU			4-1	2.3328		8. Conference USA	-0.6947
+5	9. Kansas		5-0	2.2010		9. Mountain West	-1.0550
+6	10. Michigan		5-0	2.1607		10. MAC			-1.1150
+17	11. Utah		4-1	2.1596			
+15	12. TCU			4-0	2.0932			
+8	13. Alabama		5-0	2.0562			
+18	14. Wake Forest		4-1	1.9989			
-11	15. Penn State		5-0	1.9479			
-9	16. NC State		4-1	1.8780			
+2	17. Kansas State	4-1	1.8730			
+4	18. James Madison	4-0	1.8668			
-1	19. Illinois		4-1	1.8624			
+4	20. Oregon		4-1	1.8410			
-8	21. Tennessee		4-0	1.7800			
-19	22. Florida State	4-1	1.7792			
-13	23. Washington		4-1	1.7641			
+13	24. Mississippi State	4-1	1.7506			
+9	25. Duke		4-1	1.6737			
						
						
-16	122. Akron		1-4	-1.6297			
-1	123. Hawaii		1-4	-1.6691			
-11	124. Nevada		2-3	-1.6773			
+4	125. Georgia State	1-4	-1.8214			
-10	126. Colorado		0-5	-1.8221			
-1	127. Navy		1-3	-1.9606			
-1	128. Utah State		1-4	-2.2105			
+1	129. Colorado State	0-4	-2.6080			
-2	130. New Mexico State	1-5	-3.0564			
-	131. Charlotte		1-5	-3.2946			





good poll imo

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


LeeMajors posted:

It is.

I hope Bielema does well there. Illinois has suffered enough.

Wrong. Give me back my hat!!!!!!!!

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Cthulu Carl posted:

I knew Mirco had a good run, but 22 yards seems... absurd?



How big was the loving gap Rutgers left him?


The entire side of the field. It was terrible scouting/coaching by Rutgers.

Mirco is a rugby style punter who rolls right before punting. Rutgers overloaded the left side to come for the block and during his natural roll to the right, that entire side of the field was empty, so he took off running.

https://twitter.com/tSilverBulletin/status/1576343821478408194?s=20&t=kE4XeA7zZs25eEtQlUrmDA

Spacemonkey57
Dec 1, 2004
Everyone rugby punts now right? It seems stupid not to because at a bare minimum it gives the coverage team time to get downfield and best case scenario you get whatever Rutgers was going for here.

Judgy Fucker
Mar 24, 2006

The Rid River Shootout line is at Texas -6.5 now, a 10-point swing in 24 hours without any kind of significant news (injury reports, coaching poo poo, etc.). Think that's the biggest swing I've ever seen without something obvious affecting it.

The assumptions are that Ewers will play and Gabriel won't (though of course those are just assumptions, and I do recall one of you Texas posters pointing out that Sark fucks with injury news), but surely Vegas knew about them, too.

The whole thing is a bit bizarre. Wish so bad I could'a gotten in on that opening line to :homebrew:

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer
I still can't believe that LSU - Tennessee is an 11am kickoff.

drunk leprechaun
May 7, 2007
sobriety is for the weak and the stupid

Judgy Fucker posted:

The Rid River Shootout line is at Texas -6.5 now, a 10-point swing in 24 hours without any kind of significant news (injury reports, coaching poo poo, etc.). Think that's the biggest swing I've ever seen without something obvious affecting it.

The assumptions are that Ewers will play and Gabriel won't (though of course those are just assumptions, and I do recall one of you Texas posters pointing out that Sark fucks with injury news), but surely Vegas knew about them, too.

The whole thing is a bit bizarre. Wish so bad I could'a gotten in on that opening line to :homebrew:

Yeah that opening line was kind of odd, so not surprised to see it move like that. I suspect that in addition to the tings you mentioned a lot of money came in on the Texas side of the line which pushed it that way too.

Now watch Texas win by like 3 and just totally gently caress the bookies.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Judgy Fucker posted:

The Rid River Shootout line is at Texas -6.5 now, a 10-point swing in 24 hours without any kind of significant news (injury reports, coaching poo poo, etc.). Think that's the biggest swing I've ever seen without something obvious affecting it.

The assumptions are that Ewers will play and Gabriel won't (though of course those are just assumptions, and I do recall one of you Texas posters pointing out that Sark fucks with injury news), but surely Vegas knew about them, too.

The whole thing is a bit bizarre. Wish so bad I could'a gotten in on that opening line to :homebrew:

Good lord, that's the largest swing I've heard of. (Although I don't bet on sports)

dirty shrimp money
Jan 8, 2001

All I know is the Red River game this weekend is going to be all all-timer as far as self-aggrandizing, self-promotion, self-destruction, self-abuse, and self-dick-punching, and myself I'm 100% gonna watch

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug
Do they let you bet before the week of the game? Like generally books want even bets on both sides so unless a fuckton of money came in on Oklahoma between Texas losing to Tech and Oklahoma getting pantsed twice in a row I'm not sure what would cause that line to be set so wildly in favor of OU

Komet
Apr 4, 2003

The Penn State - Michigan game in two weeks is on Fox's Big Noon kickoff. The Big Ten needs to put its foot down on these marquee games at noon. It's costing the conference viewers.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

fast cars loose anus posted:

Do they let you bet before the week of the game? Like generally books want even bets on both sides so unless a fuckton of money came in on Oklahoma between Texas losing to Tech and Oklahoma getting pantsed twice in a row I'm not sure what would cause that line to be set so wildly in favor of OU

I don't know what would cause that kind of swing either, unless it's just a lot of dumb Texas money.

Based on everything that's happened so far, I'd call this game a toss-up. Maybe Texas is favored a little bit if Ewers plays (we won't know until the first snap knowing Sark).

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

Wisconsin is so hosed as a program that it's incredible.
Like, who's coming to play for this team? The whole organization from the sports director on down has basically said 'gently caress it' for a generation. What horse-poo poo.

Judgy Fucker
Mar 24, 2006

fast cars loose anus posted:

Do they let you bet before the week of the game? Like generally books want even bets on both sides so unless a fuckton of money came in on Oklahoma between Texas losing to Tech and Oklahoma getting pantsed twice in a row I'm not sure what would cause that line to be set so wildly in favor of OU

Very rarely, but not never. I have the Caesar's sportsbook app and check it periodically even though I can't use it to wager outside Nevada and they did not have OU-Texas up before early Sunday morning.

There's a ~*theory*~ that sometimes the books set "rat lines" to encourage a shitload of money to be put on one side, only to cause a backlash and a similar dumptruck of money to be put on the other to even things out, all in a way to just get more money on the game. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the line move closer to Texas -3 or 4 by kickoff.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Big Beef City posted:

Wisconsin is so hosed as a program that it's incredible.
Like, who's coming to play for this team? The whole organization from the sports director on down has basically said 'gently caress it' for a generation. What horse-poo poo.

Did you mean to say "Colorado"? Seems like Wisconsin should be fine. Wisconsin is always fine. Maybe they'll be a bit less fine when the Big Ten's divisions dissolve; but I figure they'll be fine enough nonetheless.

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug

PostNouveau posted:

I don't know what would cause that kind of swing either, unless it's just a lot of dumb Texas money.

Based on everything that's happened so far, I'd call this game a toss-up. Maybe Texas is favored a little bit if Ewers plays (we won't know until the first snap knowing Sark).

Everyone always goes "its a rivalry game chuck out the records ho ho" but I think Texas/OU might stick truest to that principle. I'd never bet on that game even if I did bet on sports.

Judgy Fucker
Mar 24, 2006

Big Beef City posted:

Wisconsin is so hosed as a program that it's incredible.
Like, who's coming to play for this team? The whole organization from the sports director on down has basically said 'gently caress it' for a generation. What horse-poo poo.

Wisconsin is in the Big 10 West. 2/3 of your annual conference schedule is dogshit. Wisconsin will be fine in the medium run, at the least.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Judgy Fucker posted:

Wisconsin is in the Big 10 West. 2/3 of your annual conference schedule is dogshit. Wisconsin will be fine in the medium run, at the least.

The divisions are almost certainly going away, but I think there will still be plenty of bad teams to go around for the blandly competent middle tier teams (Wisconsin, Iowa) to get their 8 wins.

Komet
Apr 4, 2003

Wisconsin has consistently been the second best team in the conference for much of the last 15 years, although they've been below Michigan and Penn State for most of the last 6 seasons. The right hire can get them back into the Big Ten West hunt as soon as one or two years. Nebraska is in a way worse position. If Bert can turn Illinois around as fast as he's done, it can happen anywhere else in the conference.

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug
Here's a funny bit from Stewart Mandel's column which I guess was filed Saturday night/Sunday morning:

quote:

But even if his team doesnt win a conference game all season, Jimbo, whos still got $86 million in fully guaranteed money coming, will remain A&Ms coach for many more years. He needs to blow up his offense and start over.

One program I never imagined might find itself in a similar predicament: Wisconsin. Somethings gone wrong in Madison, where the Badgers (2-3, 0-2) went 52-16 in Paul Chrysts first five seasons but are 15-10 since 2020. Saturday brought just about the ultimate indignity for the program: Losing 34-10 at home to former Badgers coach Bret Bielema, who is engineering a heck of a turnaround at Illinois (4-1, 1-1 Big Ten). Illini running back Chase Brown, the nations leading rusher, finished with 129 yards. Wisconsin, of all programs, finished with 2 yards on the ground.

Like Jimbo, though, Chryst will get plenty of time to figure out a fix. USA Today reported his buyout last year at $19 million.

oopsie

Neil Armbong
Jan 16, 2004

If anybody wants to see, there's a Donkey Kong kill screen coming up.
Pillbug

fast cars loose anus posted:

Everyone always goes "its a rivalry game chuck out the records ho ho" but I think Texas/OU might stick truest to that principle. I'd never bet on that game even if I did bet on sports.

def agree with this. a fool puts money on this game.

wernox
Mar 26, 2001

I gave up my OG title for this.
third Purdue night game this year 10/15 against Nebraska.......I could really go for a noon kick right about now.

CalvinandHobbes
Aug 5, 2004

Spacemonkey57 posted:

Everyone rugby punts now right? It seems stupid not to because at a bare minimum it gives the coverage team time to get downfield and best case scenario you get whatever Rutgers was going for here.

Michigan for one is super traditional on punts. no rubgy punt and traditional rather than 3 man shield punt formation.

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer

wernox posted:

third Purdue night game this year 10/15 against Nebraska.......I could really go for a noon kick right about now.

We'll trade you!



Bama/Tennessee next week is 330 on CBS cant wait to hear Gary gag all over Bama all game



god i hate him so much

Judgy Fucker
Mar 24, 2006

Neil Armbong posted:

def agree with this. a fool puts money on this game.

Hold on, hold on, trying to turn on my monitor

Komet
Apr 4, 2003

Joey Freshwater posted:

We'll trade you!



Bama/Tennessee next week is 330 on CBS cant wait to hear Gary gag all over Bama all game



god i hate him so much

What's he gonna do when CBS becomes a Big Ten channel?

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Komet posted:

What's he gonna do when CBS becomes a Big Ten channel?

Gag over OSU

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug

Komet posted:

What's he gonna do when CBS becomes a Big Ten channel?

I assume if they're both still around he'll begin a torrid affair with Harbaugh

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮

Komet posted:

The Penn State - Michigan game in two weeks is on Fox's Big Noon kickoff. The Big Ten needs to put its foot down on these marquee games at noon. It's costing the conference viewers.

Fox has made Big Noon Kickoff their thing, and considering CBS runs the 3:30 window and ABC the evening window, there's nowhere else to put games.

How many weeks in a row has the Big Noon Kickoff game been a Michigan game?

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Judgy Fucker posted:

There's a ~*theory*~ that sometimes the books set "rat lines" to encourage a shitload of money to be put on one side, only to cause a backlash and a similar dumptruck of money to be put on the other to even things out, all in a way to just get more money on the game. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the line move closer to Texas -3 or 4 by kickoff.

That does make a lot of sense.

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

https://twitter.com/SethWEmerson/status/1576967850098446338?s=20&t=5FaJdFS2nNMWDHrbDxCfgA

BTW, it was pretty obvious even without replay that it was a chop block, but SEC refs gonna SEC ref. Always great when these ding-dongs' general incompetence gets a player loving hurt.

They also missed Darnell Washington being targeted late in the game. Granted, the Mizzou defender bounced off him backwards 5 yards because Darnell is an enormous human, but targeting is targeting, sorry.

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

D.N. Nation posted:

https://twitter.com/SethWEmerson/status/1576967850098446338?s=20&t=5FaJdFS2nNMWDHrbDxCfgA

BTW, it was pretty obvious even without replay that it was a chop block, but SEC refs gonna SEC ref. Always great when these ding-dongs' general incompetence gets a player loving hurt.

They also missed Darnell Washington being targeted late in the game. Granted, the Mizzou defender bounced off him backwards 5 yards because Darnell is an enormous human, but targeting is targeting, sorry.

During the Oregon game they showed an Oregon defender literally being pulled while holding Carters jersey. He is such a big dude foils just dont get called for him.

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer

Komet posted:

What's he gonna do when CBS becomes a Big Ten channel?

He gags over Bama when theyre not even playing in the game hes covering so nothing will change


Vols wearing the Smokey Greys at LSU, which is neat.

https://twitter.com/Vol_Football/status/1577041047145922560?s=20&t=F_R-UbmVfHdFU_11XfKWiQ

Rectal Placenta
Feb 25, 2011

Big Beef City posted:

Wisconsin is so hosed as a program that it's incredible.
Like, who's coming to play for this team? The whole organization from the sports director on down has basically said 'gently caress it' for a generation. What horse-poo poo.

I'd imagine the same people who have been playing there for the past three decades

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Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
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