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I can "shred" reasonably fast, and I'm pretty decent at buckethead-style multi finger tapping stuff(took forever to learn fyi), general tapping, hybrid picking is a breeze because i played classical guitar for a few years so my fingers seemed to pick it up quick. I actually learned a ton from studying Buckethead. Legato stuff, tapping, etc. He rules. He even is good at writing melodies 😂 Sweeps are just annoying. Its all my right hand that is screwing it up. I just can seem to unlearn my 25+ years of picking style I guess. I don't think I'll ever get it. I choke up real far on my tiny jazz iii pick, and trying to use it in a sweeping motion just screws me up. I don't even really think I need it. But I'd like to be able to play the random sweepy bits in the Nile and Dying Fetus songs I've been playing a lot lately. I still practice vibrato every day though. It can always be better unless you're Buddy Guy or BB King or some poo poo. I also wanted to learn wacky tremolo techniques, but every Floyd Rose guitar I've bought I sold within 6 months because I hate dealing with them, and I just block my strat trem because they never stay in tune. I've always been super impressed with how Jeff Beck uses his trem. It's so crazy. Edit: slide guitar is one I'd like to get good at. I'm pretty bad at it, and I know I'll never be cool like Derek Trucks so it kinda puts me off even trying. This has been a bit of a rambling post. Basically what I'm saying is guitar is fun and I like it. But sweep picking is the devil. Malaria fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Oct 3, 2022 |
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Speaking of Iommi, I found at a local shop a low priced, perfect condition used Does It Doom "Walpurgis" pedal which is aiming right at getting a Sabbath sound, transistorized (JFET-based, relatively high internal voltage) Laney-esque circuit with a knob to blend in a Rangemaster treble boost. Sounds killer, designed by the guy who used to do Dunwich Amplification pedals. Surprising amount of range on it considering it's got one knob, probably because as you roll the knob back it darkens as well as gets less fuzzed out. Now I'm looking for an Aghartha, also designed by the same guy, which does the Sunn Model T and RAT combo in a similar way. One knob is enough knobs sometimes.
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I've shared this in the thread multiple times but it's my favorite Iommi story and like my third favorite Billy Corgan story, but they were in the studio together working on Black Oblivion for Iommi's solo, Santana-esque record. Billy's always worshiped Iommi and considers that his ideal rhythm tone so while Tony's tracking one day Billy sneaks over to peek at his rig, figure out what magic he's doing to get that tone. Turns out his guitar is running into his amp and the gain's at about 6. That's it. Completely deflates Billy's ego in that moment.
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Sweaty IT Nerd posted:I am going to die from how cute your dog is. I hope you are happy. She is a very grumpy lady, but makes up for it with being adorable, and able to manipulate me easily for chicken treats.
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Oct 3, 2022 06:43
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Baron von Eevl posted:I've shared this in the thread multiple times but it's my favorite Iommi story and like my third favorite Billy Corgan story, but they were in the studio together working on Black Oblivion for Iommi's solo, Santana-esque record. Billy's always worshiped Iommi and considers that his ideal rhythm tone so while Tony's tracking one day Billy sneaks over to peek at his rig, figure out what magic he's doing to get that tone. Turns out his guitar is running into his amp and the gain's at about 6. That's it. Completely deflates Billy's ego in that moment. Lmao I love this. Smashing Pumpkins best stuff really is Tale of a Scorched Earth, and any songs like it.
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Oct 3, 2022 06:46
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landgrabber posted:this is the poo poo that every other band misses out on.
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Baron von Eevl posted:I've shared this in the thread multiple times but it's my favorite Iommi story and like my third favorite Billy Corgan story, but they were in the studio together working on Black Oblivion for Iommi's solo, Santana-esque record. Billy's always worshiped Iommi and considers that his ideal rhythm tone so while Tony's tracking one day Billy sneaks over to peek at his rig, figure out what magic he's doing to get that tone. Turns out his guitar is running into his amp and the gain's at about 6. That's it. Completely deflates Billy's ego in that moment. lol that rules
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Oct 3, 2022 13:30
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Amazon photos reminded me of this from visiting an exhibit for Factory Records last year. Ian Curtis's Vox Phantom. I kind of want one, even though it looks pretty ugly and uncomfortable IMO. The on board effects are kind of interesting.
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Baron von Eevl posted:I've shared this in the thread multiple times but it's my favorite Iommi story and like my third favorite Billy Corgan story, but they were in the studio together working on Black Oblivion for Iommi's solo, Santana-esque record. Billy's always worshiped Iommi and considers that his ideal rhythm tone so while Tony's tracking one day Billy sneaks over to peek at his rig, figure out what magic he's doing to get that tone. Turns out his guitar is running into his amp and the gain's at about 6. That's it. Completely deflates Billy's ego in that moment. Tone is in the dish washing soap bottle caps.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Amazon photos reminded me of this from visiting an exhibit for Factory Records last year. Looks like the generic brand q-tips where sometimes one end just doesn't have any cotton on it
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OK but what about shredlord Mickey Baker and his sweep picking from the 50's? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fGizY77-q8&t=110s BizarroAzrael posted:Amazon photos reminded me of this from visiting an exhibit for Factory Records last year.
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Oct 3, 2022 14:08
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Maybe I'll come around on the shape as I play standing up more, but it looks like it would be tricky getting to some of the high frets. I guess I like a guitar with switches, why I like my Jaguar and don't like the idea of trading the individual pickup switched for a single selector switch.
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Oct 3, 2022 14:21
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The Leck posted:OK but what about shredlord Mickey Baker and his sweep picking from the 50's? ha! i initially learned jazz chords from "Mickey Baker's Complete Course in Jazz Guitar", which i can't recommend as all the voicings are huge and antiquated. never heard him play though, i can see why he'd want those full 6-string voicings for solo stuff.
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I actually used to hate sweep picking, in a very similar mindset to landgrabber. But then I got older and realized that I didn't hate the technique, I hated how people used it as a crutch to appear good at solos - mainly from a bunch of local deathcore bands who only ever learned five string a-shape minor arpeggios and didn't know any actual theory. I auditioned for too many bands where I asked "hey what key is this in?" Only to get shrugs and fret numbers from the guitarists. Pretty much put forever put me off trying to join or form a band forever. It was actually children of bodom that got me to understand that you can use sweep picking as another tool in a solo to quickly ascend or descend between positions, not to use it as the whole solo. Now I don't care because nothing matters, but I still smile when I hear someone using the yngwie style three diminished arpeggios in a row.
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It's also amazing how often producers in the 80s used session musicians to do the heavy lifting in solos- so what you were hearing wasn't the product of someone dedicated to songcraft as much as ticking off a box. Yeah there were real deal shredders like Yngwie, Vai and Bettencourt who were dedicated to sucking all the musicality out of a composition but for every sentient hairpiece blasting eight hours of arpeggios a day you had a producer bring in Steve Lukather to "punch up" the solo and then teach it to the dudes from White Lion.
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NC Wyeth Death Cult posted:real deal shredders like Yngwie, Vai and Bettencourt who were dedicated to sucking all the musicality out of a composition
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Spanish Manlove posted:I actually used to hate sweep picking, in a very similar mindset to landgrabber. But then I got older and realized that I didn't hate the technique, I hated how people used it as a crutch to appear good at solos - mainly from a bunch of local deathcore bands who only ever learned five string a-shape minor arpeggios and didn't know any actual theory. I auditioned for too many bands where I asked "hey what key is this in?" Only to get shrugs and fret numbers from the guitarists. Pretty much put forever put me off trying to join or form a band forever. I think its okay to do that, to an extent - lots of guitarists will be fine and happy and impressive knowing just numbers, but why they don't want to know *why* a song works and have ways of communicating it to others is foreign to me. I want to know the "rules" so I can make songs interesting by loving with them. I might never get sweep picking down, but I'd like to try it even though its "outside" my genre because there might be times it sounds right. One of my favourite things about learning is the way it can strip away ego sometimes - J Mascis and Tom Verlaine might be my guitar heroes, but the nicest guitar I've played was a cheesy Ibanez superstrat and I have my eye on a PRS right now... Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Oct 3, 2022 |
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I don't know anything about shredders really but I remember a story about I think Fallout Boy recorded a Van Halen cover (for like a Tony Hawk game??) and the studio hired John Mayer to play the solo which was funny
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Dr. Faustus posted:This isn't just unnecessarily hostile, it's actually pretty spectacularly loving stupid. I agree- "musicality" was the wrong word- i'd replace it with "soul" and I'd say Vinnie Vincent instead of Nuno. I don't know why I get them mixed up. Thanks for giving me the chance to correct myself.
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I started reading Advancing Guitarist this week, so I'm back to playing one string at a time for a while.
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People come up with a million ways to say "I don't like that sound/style/other subjective thing," like saying it has no soul. It's not to your tastes, I understand. Though FWIW I too don't care for Yngwie, he puts no geist into his playing, it is krumptuosic and badilazorp at best and even becomes blihgh at times. Very fast though. Agreed fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Oct 3, 2022 |
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Fine. ill listen to a yngwie song for the first time and will settle this matter
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Wowporn posted:I don't know anything about shredders really but I remember a story about I think Fallout Boy recorded a Van Halen cover (for like a Tony Hawk game??) and the studio hired John Mayer to play the solo which was funny If anyone else was curious, there's a bit more to it, this is what I found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgmL2LeuhY4 Thats a John Mayer solo all right
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a.p. dent posted:Fine. ill listen to a yngwie song for the first time and will settle this matter i watched this here is my review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmFzT_BtVLk * clearly a very talented guitarist * the intro has excellent "feel" and he has all the technical skills to do whatever he likes * the shredding part is very boring to me 5/10, well executed but not for me. much better stuff out there
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a.p. dent posted:ha! i initially learned jazz chords from "Mickey Baker's Complete Course in Jazz Guitar", which i can't recommend as all the voicings are huge and antiquated. never heard him play though, i can see why he'd want those full 6-string voicings for solo stuff.
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a.p. dent posted:* clearly a very talented guitarist Yeah I have never been able to connect w/ a Yngwie song on an emotional level, which isn't true for some Vai and Petrucci stuff (it's ok if that isn't the case for others, this is my drat post) but maybe there's somebody out there who is like yngwie plays my feeelings, idk I'd say 5/10 is generous for a lot of his material for me personally but he is definitely stupid advanced in terms of technique and has been forever
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The Leck posted:I ran across that book somewhere and wondered if it was any good. Makes sense that it's pretty old school, and it doesn't sound like it's for me, but I do really like that song. the first page of the book:  i remember #6, D13b5b9, being particularly ridiculous, but a bunch of these are super impractical. i learned them all and promptly forgot them.
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Jonny 290 posted:gently caress FEDEX. Pictured: The FedEx guy to your guitar:  Pictured: You to the FedEx guy when you find him.
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I was on the porch and heard him drop it against the big cinder blocks out front of our house. I have video of me unboxing it, timestamped, showing the damage as soon as i pulled it out. Reverb better come through. it's up to 269 from that seller from $199 too. Really hoping they are cool enough to just do an exchange.
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Nasty. That's 200 dollars of firewood now... Reverb are usually good with that stuff so bet it'll be a straight swap.
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i think landgrabber got that dawg in her. i don't agree but if you got that dawg you got something special. so i might not agree but the passion is real
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a.p. dent posted:the first page of the book: 
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a.p. dent posted:the first page of the book: 1,2,4,15, and 16 are in regular use, and I might try to steal a few others, but whew there are some finger twisters there
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The Leck posted:1,2,4,15, and 16 are in regular use, and I might try to steal a few others, but whew there are some finger twisters there yea, looking at it more there are a bunch of what i would consider "standard forms" though i often play them with a tone or two omitted: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 21 (kinda), 22, 23, 25, and 26. clearly that one form scarred me and stayed in my head. on the plus side, if you actually practice playing through his chord progressions using these forms, you get real good at switching chords quickly
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Apologies if this is the wrong thread (I thought I might have better luck here than in the DIY thread), but can anyone point me to a source for MIJ (1994-1995) Fender Jaguar pickguards? I want to replace the pickguard on mine, and I'm having a devil of a time finding one that actually fits.
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What doesn't fit? Like, did you buy an aftermarket one and the holes didn't line up or did they totally change the shape of them since and the thing is off in a dozen different ways? If it's the former, how comfortable are you with filling, leveling, and redrilling holes in your body and/or filing and sanding the edges on the guard?
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Agreed posted:Yeah I have never been able to connect w/ a Yngwie song on an emotional level, which isn't true for some Vai and Petrucci stuff (it's ok if that isn't the case for others, this is my drat post) but maybe there's somebody out there who is like yngwie plays my feeelings, idk And he gets amazing sound out of a fairly oddball setup: single coils, downtuned strat with I think .008 strings and high action. Seems like it really shouldn't sound as good as it does. Strat related post: So I've had this parts strat for a year or so, Mexi strat body with originally a Falkon neck (Swedish brand I think that probably sources their poo poo from China). Got a good deal on it and I wanted a "normal" type strat since my at the time only one is scalloped and modded. The neck never sat quite right with me and I ended up finding a maple fretboard MiM neck a little while back that I stuck on it. Liked that a lot better. But it still wasn't quite right. This past week I saw a 2013 MiM sunburst body in the local classifieds for $150 and really liked the looks of it so picked that one up, figuring that strats are basically like Lego and poo poo just fits together no problem, bada bing bada boom. So I learned about bridge spacing and how in fact strats aren't all the same. The body I had from the beginning was originally a 2 point trem one and was drilled for a 6 point later. But the one used was the narrow (52mm) spacing, and the new body I had acquired used 56mm spacing. So it was either buy a 56mm trem but that made me concerned the strings would end up too close to the fretboard edge for my taste, or find a "hybrid" one (56mm spacing on the holes, 52mm on the strings), or plug the holes with glue and toothpicks and drill new ones, which is what I ended up doing. Also, the screw holes in the body were too small for the neck screws so had to ream them out a bit so the neck screws would slip through properly. But I got it all together and setup reasonably well and drat if it isn't a great playing strat now. 9.5" radius MiM neck off a 2021 strat, body from a 2013 I think Classic Player 60s, Wilkinson pickups and ??? tremolo. Mint green pickguard on a sunburst body. I still have the pickups and pots from the one I initially purchased but I am well on my way to the strat of Theseus at this point.
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