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Jake got his tiger throat cut fighting David and Cassie had to inject him with adrenaline.
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# ? Oct 4, 2022 03:15 |
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Not feeling well today, so postponing chapters Feel free to discuss adolescent trauma. Also to add, vegetarian Cassie got a chunk of Hork-Bajir flesh stuck in her teeth and didn't notice until her mom pointed it out. Epicurius fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Oct 4, 2022 |
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- All of them nearly getting stuck as half-wolves because they almost ran out of time - Jake and Cassie nearly getting stuck as horrifically burned half-roaches after the car explosion - Marco almost getting stuck as a half flea - Arbron getting stuck as a Taxxon In comparison all of these make Tobias' fate seem downright marvellous
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# ? Oct 4, 2022 08:25 |
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Rachel almost getting eaten alive by ants, although that one timey wimey'd itself into not happening
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# ? Oct 4, 2022 08:51 |
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Was it Rachel's bear or Marco's gorilla that had it's stomach sliced open during a fight and they had to hold their own guts inside of them to keep them from falling out?
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# ? Oct 4, 2022 08:52 |
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Vandar posted:Was it Rachel's bear or Marco's gorilla that had it's stomach sliced open during a fight and they had to hold their own guts inside of them to keep them from falling out? Looks like Marco, book 7.
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# ? Oct 4, 2022 09:05 |
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Chapter 11quote:I shoved the dead Hork-Bajir from my chest. I will say....the blue bands are good Chapter 12 quote:<Rachel?> So this is pretty bad.
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 02:59 |
Christ Jake, you're giving the Yeerks a whole day? Bad call. Really bad call.
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 03:21 |
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poo poo has officially got real.
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 03:22 |
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freebooter posted:- Arbron getting stuck as a Taxxon Epicurius posted:So this is pretty bad.
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 03:23 |
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On the plus? side they only need to get like 7-8 people out. Cassie's parents, Jake's parents and Rachel's mom and sisters (her dad probably lives too far away to reasonably extract) and they know the Yeerks haven't pinged them yet. But still, goddamn they should be getting them out tonight if at all possible.
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 03:32 |
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Epicurius posted:I will say....the blue bands are good Did their introduction in the other chapter feel like an "As You Know, the Blue Bands are the most efficient, well-trained, terrifying soldiers among the Hork-Bajir controllers" retcon to anyone else? Apparently, they were first introduced a few books ago, but I didn't notice them then at all.
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 05:41 |
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Fuschia tude posted:Did their introduction in the other chapter feel like an "As You Know, the Blue Bands are the most efficient, well-trained, terrifying soldiers among the Hork-Bajir controllers" retcon to anyone else? Apparently, they were first introduced a few books ago, but I didn't notice them then at all.
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 06:01 |
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Marco telling Tobias not to do something crazy and reckless to rescue his mom is quite amusing.
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# ? Oct 5, 2022 07:06 |
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Chapter 13quote:I found my old house first. My uncle’s dump. He obviously didn’t live there anymore. Somebody’d mowed the lawn and painted the garage. I have to think Elfangor would be pissed off at this whole situation. Chapter 14 quote:“We got the circus in trouble,” Rachel said. “Channel 6 reported a rogue elephant escaped from the Civic Center, ripped up a blood bank, and damaged a gas main that later exploded, wiping out an alley and torching an abandoned warehouse.” So Operation Save The Families Tomorrow begins.
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# ? Oct 6, 2022 03:43 |
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Oh yeah this book is already hardcore as gently caress.
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# ? Oct 6, 2022 05:06 |
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gently caress, yeah, this is a good one.
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# ? Oct 6, 2022 17:27 |
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Chapter 15quote:Cassie eased open the barn door. Her mom was on the porch, drinking coffee and reading the Sunday paper. Cassie's mom, going to get canceled if she's not careful (Note, in this case, cancelled means being infested by a Yeerk). Chapter 16 quote:“"Hey". The kitchen door slid open. Cassie’s father stumbled out onto the porch, clutching a coffee mug in both hands. “I want to know whose brilliant idea it was to schedule sunrise at - whoa.” So that's one family down. One thing I wanted to say about this, and we had talked about it before is, in a lot of young adult and children's adventure fiction the parents are absent....either they're dead, or their missing, or they're far away ...So, for instance, in Harry Potter, Harry's parents are dead and he lives with his nasty aunt and uncle. In The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, the kids are sent up north to avoid the blitz, and they wander into the wardrobe and end up alone in Narnia. In The Boxcar Children, at least at the beginning, the parents are dead and the kids are living in a railroad boxcar. Even this series did it at first, sort of, with the "anybody can be a Yeerk" thing. And in a lot of ways, that makes sense. If the kids have parents nearby or other authority figures they trust, the question comes up, you know. why don't they ask them for help with the giant crisis that they're facing? One of a parent's responsibilities, after all, is to protect and guide their kids. So you have to take away that temptation to bring in tjhe parents by just cutting out the parents. one way or another. This is one of the few books, though, that I can think of, that our kid protagonists find out their parents are in danger and try to save them with anything like success. So far, Marco saved his dad and his mom (if not his stepmom) and Cassie's just saved her parents. This seems to me to be an unusual thing in the world of children's literature.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 03:36 |
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A good point. I guess in Harry Potter and Lion et al, and even in The Hobbit, the kids have their adventures Somewhere Else (where there are no parents.) But the central idea of Animorphs is that the crazy stuff is coming directly to your own neighborhood. To continue the Tolkien comparison, it's one long Scourging of the Shire!
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 04:01 |
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Series of Unfortunate Events solved that by making the adults unwilling to listen to children or actively malicious. It's a choice, for sure, but it works for the story.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 04:21 |
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Capfalcon posted:Series of Unfortunate Events solved that by making the adults unwilling to listen to children This is honestly probably the most common way parents get 'involved' in kid-centric stories, maybe even more so than conveniently being entirely absent. It also always reminds me of one of my favorite homestuck quotes. quote:TG: skepticism is the crutch of cinematic troglodytes
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 05:27 |
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Yeah, it's a terrible, lazy way to write, and very unsatisfying to read. e: no I'm not bitter ee: it's been ages since I read Homestuck; I need to give it another look Tree Bucket fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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Tree Bucket posted:and even in The Hobbit, the kids have their adventures Somewhere Else (where there are no parents.) Isn't what's his name like 60 elf-years old or whatever
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 05:55 |
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Fuschia tude posted:Isn't what's his name like 60 elf-years old or whatever Yeah, no one is really a kid in The Hobbit. The youngest dwarves and Bilbo are all firmly in the 'young adult' age bracket and like half or more of the party is middle aged or older. Even in The Lord of the Rings everyone is an adult, like the book opens on the combination 111th and 33rd birthday party for Bilbo/Frodo respecitively and the actual plot doesn't even kick in till a few years later.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 05:59 |
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As in, Hobbit is a book for kids, not about kids.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 06:26 |
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Tree Bucket posted:ee: it's been ages since I read Homestuck; I need to give it another look Get the unofficial offline archive if you do, the original site is almost irredeemably broken since Adobe Flash died and Hussie has pretty much washed his hands of the thing completely.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 07:28 |
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Writer doing a really good job with Tobias' feelings here and especially the shock he feels at finding out that his estranged mother was living literally a few streets over. Especially the bit about sitting there obsessing over it and forgetting he was in morph and nearly getting fly-nothlited - horrifying! - which even he brushes off in one paragraph because he thinks he's being unreasonable and is trying to ignore it. I also liked how he says they have to get everyone out and Jake doesn't twig what he means - Marco does, before he even says it, but not Jake. Even in his own band of brothers Tobias still feels like an ignored outsider sometimes. Re: saving the parents, I think it's an interesting one. The initial trope is of course about thrusting kids into responsibility in order to appeal to the 10-15yo range - the parents or adults in general are a factor that simply have to be removed one way or another, or you don't have your YA story - but the series has been going on long enough that at this point it's the end of a coming of age arc. The Animorphs have seen and done more poo poo than their parents can possibly imagine, and at this stage it's the kids who are really the grown-ups and have to protect their parents. (The exception to this is Eva because of course she's also been dragged through hell, which is why I really admire the scene in Visser where she meets them in the Taxxon tunnels and, even though she loves and fears for Marco, treats him like an equal; which is also why I'm disappointed she's had virtually zero screen time since her liberation.)
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 12:41 |
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I really appreciate that a book that's so consequential is also so, so good.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 13:19 |
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Chapter 17quote:<Logic and reason won’t work here,> Rachel coached. <My mom’s a lawyer. There’s no arguing with her. She’ll win, whether she’s right or not. We just have to do what we came for.> Ax the pokey-man. It's also interesting looking at Tobias's thoughts here....he's contrasting Cassie's mom and Rachel's mom, who went out of their way to protect their kids, with his. Also, if you remember, Lourdes is the Chee who's taken the role of homeless crack addict, and who the Animorphs rescued from the crackhouse when all the Chee went motionless. Chapter 18 quote:<We take Tom first,> Jake said. <No explanation. No discussion. Just grab him. Give him zero time to react. It shouldn’t be hard. He can’t fight all three of us. Once we have Tom, my parents will come willingly. They won’t let us kidnap Tom without them.> Unfortunately, even though they rescued Rachel's mom and sisters and Cassie's parents, they were too late for Jake's parents.
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# ? Oct 8, 2022 03:30 |
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I just realised - major end of series spoilers - how incredibly depressing Tom's fate is. You don't really get to know him as a character, it's more about what he represents to Jake, but he literally never becomes free. Years and years of slavery and then you die a Controller.
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# ? Oct 8, 2022 03:46 |
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Epicurius posted:Chapter 18 Is Tom still a high-ranking Controller, though? I thought the whole reason he got his Yeerk switched out in #6 was he got promoted and replaced with a newbie. We haven't really heard anything about the replacement's rank in the hierarchy ever since, IIRC.
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# ? Oct 8, 2022 05:11 |
Goddammit Jake what did I JUST say
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# ? Oct 8, 2022 05:39 |
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freebooter posted:I just realised - major end of series spoilers - ]how incredibly depressing Tom's fate is. You don't really get to know him as a character, it's more about what he represents to Jake, but he literally never becomes free. Years and years of slavery and then you die a Controller. Yeah. It's really bad. We didn't even get one moment with uninfected Tom except in the first book and glimpses of a broken Tom in jake's mind when he was infested by his old yeerk. I'd love to have had even a paragraph of Tom maybe waiting to be reinfested talking to Jake.
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# ? Oct 8, 2022 07:52 |
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I remember reading this book for the first time, getting to the part in chapter 12 when Jake says "go home, get some sleep, we'll decide tomorrow" and thinking "oh, no, that's way too long to wait."
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# ? Oct 8, 2022 13:47 |
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Fuschia tude posted:Is Tom still a high-ranking Controller, though? I thought the whole reason he got his Yeerk switched out in #6 was he got promoted and replaced with a newbie. We haven't really heard anything about the replacement's rank in the hierarchy ever since, IIRC. So Tom's is basically "deputy head of the Sharing and head of its youth group". This is what the position of Tom means. So that's what his first Controller was, until he got promoted, and the new Controller got promoted to Tom. So the answer is, he's important enough to have a high ranking position in the primary Yeerk infestation group.
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# ? Oct 8, 2022 14:08 |
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Epicurius posted:So Tom's is basically "deputy head of the Sharing and head of its youth group". This is what the position of Tom means. So that's what his first Controller was, until he got promoted, and the new Controller got promoted to Tom. Yeah, he's a high ranking Yeerk posting and the book six Yeerk was getting promoted higher than that.
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# ? Oct 8, 2022 14:14 |
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kiminewt posted:Yeah. It's really bad. We didn't even get one moment with uninfected Tom except in the first book and glimpses of a broken Tom in jake's mind when he was infested by his old yeerk. Also the Catdog and "Pokey-man" references are adorably dated. And a hell of a thing to just casually go "oh yeah I gave your species the idea of Pasteurization" as an aside.
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# ? Oct 8, 2022 15:29 |
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I guess the Chee's pacifism doesn't extend to bacteria.
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# ? Oct 8, 2022 16:10 |
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mind the walrus posted:Also the Catdog and "Pokey-man" references are adorably dated. The Pokemon reference is probably one of the least dated references in the series imo.
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I would think they called Ax the pokey-man because of his pokey tail
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# ? Oct 8, 2022 17:40 |