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Though more seriously it's more to show that a relatively mundane thing by standards of most sci-fi is an outrageous wonder demonstrating how bad the Butlerian Jihad has crippled humanity's development and how Leto II both greatly suppresses technology while also flaunting his hypocrisy- especially considering the device that transcribes his thoughts and is meant to be discovered after his death. The Golden Path is basically Leto II making them 'smoke the whole pack' as it were.
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Tree Bucket posted:The elevator was a room yet not a room; This whole thing sounds like Pynchon to be honest
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Though more seriously it's more to show that a relatively mundane thing by standards of most sci-fi is an outrageous wonder demonstrating how bad the Butlerian Jihad has crippled humanity's development and how Leto II both greatly suppresses technology while also flaunting his hypocrisy- especially considering the device that transcribes his thoughts and is meant to be discovered after his death. That was my confusion though- did he really force the galaxy into like a pre-industrial revolution stasis? I wouldn’t have thought it was that strict. I was imagining like… the ability to use electricity at least. I can’t remember now- was that village that Dunc and Siona visited just like mud and thatched roofs? Also if the ixians are permitted to invent a no-room for Leto then the technological disparity between Ix and the rest of the galaxy is like millennia-long? This makes no sense.
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MarcusSA posted:https://www.pcgamer.com/a-canceled-dune-game-comes-to-steam-under-a-new-name-20-years-later/ I was a backer 
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I love it at the end of the sixth book when Odrade goes to Junction, and Frank had clearly been doing a lot of his writing from lovely Travelodge receptions and clearly thought "Yeah, this would be the ultimate insult to subject your enemy to".
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Soul Dentist posted:Pynchon Henceforth this is how I will refer to Bronson Pinchot.
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Soul Dentist posted:This whole thing sounds like Pynchon to be honest Well, I'd read it. I'd probably give up about two chapters in, though
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Jewmanji posted:That was my confusion though- did he really force the galaxy into like a pre-industrial revolution stasis? I wouldn’t have thought it was that strict. I was imagining like… the ability to use electricity at least. I can’t remember now- was that village that Dunc and Siona visited just like mud and thatched roofs? Some technology remains for select parts of the population and factions in order to continue administering the empire. Leto is also purposefully cultivating opposition so leaves around some of the tools to end his existence. The vast majority are in the dark ages.
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Finished God Emperor for the first time a few weeks ago. I know we won’t get it but I’d love to see the Villeneuve adaptation of it Just like three hours of dialog involving a worm man, with the occasional cart based action scene
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One of the real problems with continuing the movies is that Jason Momoa makes a good regular Duncan Idaho, but wouldn't make a very good ghola Idaho.
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Caesar Saladin posted:One of the real problems with continuing the movies is that Jason Momoa makes a good regular Duncan Idaho, but wouldn't make a very good ghola Idaho. We will find out in Messiah I guess
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Testikles posted:Some technology remains for select parts of the population and factions in order to continue administering the empire. Leto is also purposefully cultivating opposition so leaves around some of the tools to end his existence. The vast majority are in the dark ages. Chekhov's lasgun, chekhov's elevator and chekhov's prostetic wormdick.
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Chekhovs within chekhovs
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EvilBlackRailgun posted:Finished God Emperor for the first time a few weeks ago. I know we won’t get it but I’d love to see the Villeneuve adaptation of it The border scene from Sicario but with a giant worm on a rascal scooter crossing a bridge.
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Chekhovs Chairdog.
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pnumoman posted:Can't forget the climbing climax The climbax.
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Personally can't wait to see Momoa play nerd
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https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1577365890386907136quote:The show is set 10,000 years before the events of “Dune” and is based on the novel “Sisterhood of Dune” by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson. Per the official logline, the show “follows the Harkonnen Sisters as they combat forces that threaten the future of humankind, and establish the fabled sect known as the Bene Gesserit” I thought this was dead for sure, especially after HBO Max started cancelling everything, but I guess not.
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Complete waste of time. They should make a Heretics show instead, it will have about as much mass appeal and also be way more entertaining than whatever drivel KJA cooked up
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Well they who shall not be named were always really good with writing about subjects I was interested in, it's just the writing that licked taint. If they aren't writing these...maybe there's hope?
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*furiously taking notes on which pussy contractions enslave men best* my sisters in 15000 years will thank me for this
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Riot Bimbo posted:*furiously taking notes on which pussy contractions enslave men best* my sisters in 15000 years will thank me for this is this too long to be a thread title?
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Mister Speaker posted:is this too long to be a thread title? the whole thing is, but i think the first bit captures the vibe
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sebmojo posted:the whole thing is, but i think the first bit captures the vibe 
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1577365890386907136 skasion posted:Complete waste of time. They should make a Heretics show instead, it will have about as much mass appeal and also be way more entertaining than whatever drivel KJA cooked up Heretics, unfortunately, isn't ever going to be made in any form. sebmojo posted:the whole thing is, but i think the first bit captures the vibe 
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sebmojo posted:the whole thing is, but i think the first bit captures the vibe lol BlankSystemDaemon posted:That's one hell of a contract that the Herbert estate managed to negotiate, that someone didn't think they could get away with breaking it - I guess the parent company must've realized that they'd lose the rights to the movie et al. and figured it'd cost them more in the end. the heroes we needed, but not the ones we deserved... Thank You Brain Herbert 
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kalel posted:the heroes we needed, but not the ones we deserved... Thank You Brain Herbert 
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What a shame, they actually have talented actors as the leads. Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson active involvement insures it's going to be drippy dogshit, but I could see a decent series if they weren't part of it.
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quote:Variety exclusively reported that Diane Ademu-John is the creator, co-showrunner, and executive producer on “Dune: The Sisterhood.” Alison Schapker serves as co-showrunner and executive producer. Johan Renck will direct the premiere episode and executive produce. Renck previously worked with Watson on “Chernobyl.”   Good news: KJA and BH will not write a thing Alarming news: KJA will co-produce. But if he isn't handling the writing that's positive. Giving Brian Herbert an executive producer credit means nothing. Summary: tentatively not flushing this until I see more
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Pretty cool that DV was presumably able to leverage Dune's success to worm his way out of directing anything in this thing also can't wait to see all the groan-worthy callbacks and foreshadowings. e.g. protagonist steps out of frame but the camera lingers on a chair with a dog sitting next to it while Gregorian chanting swells
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I'd have to go dig up the timeline but it's actually still a number of millennia down from us. The calendar as of Dune was set based on the founding of the Spacing Guild, post-Jihad, as I recall. There was a high human golden age of ascending technology and expansion for quite a while before that.
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I just found it. We're at like 24,000 years before the events of the first book right now. First book takes place around the 10,200 AG range and the first use of atomic weapons on Terra is like 14,500 BG
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Tree Bucket posted:Jejune LOL
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Wonder how much they're going to go into the details of the butlerian Jihad in the show and whether they're going to pay any lip service to Anderson's version of events. It would be kind of annoying if going to Dune 2 there was the conception that 10,000 years ago was effectively Terminator skynet world
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