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Piquai Souban posted:I hate that Poilievre is my dang MP every day: canada's first incel pm
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Oct 6, 2022 18:06
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Entropic posted:It should surprise no one that PP is doing SEO to chase right-wing culture war clicks, that’s like his whole thing His team is really banking on getting a generation of toxic disaffected dipshits out to vote.
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Oct 6, 2022 18:36
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infernal machines posted:His team is really banking on getting a generation of toxic disaffected dipshits out to vote. What's the selling point anyway? "Under a PP government, you'll be able to score, finally!" How is he going to satisfy his angry incel base?
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Oct 6, 2022 18:40
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"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" That's it. Maybe you believe things will improve for you once all those perfidious foreigners and the woke mob are laid low, but that's probably a step further than the average PP voter has taken it. E: There's probably a certain subset of that crowd that believe they could get laid with a return to "traditional values" or whatever, not realizing that , no, they could not, and they would have been losers in the old days too. The difference is they would have had the poo poo beaten out of them more back then. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Oct 6, 2022 |
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Oct 6, 2022 18:42
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 License to bone
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Oct 6, 2022 18:43
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The uphill battle will be not just getting these fuckheads out to the polls, but ensuring that they arrive with the understanding that they can't just vote for PP, they have to X the circle next to the Conservative candidate.
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Oct 6, 2022 18:45
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We've done politically correct, we've done social justice warrior, we've done virtue signalling.... I'm just excited to see what buzzword comes after woke!
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Oct 6, 2022 18:54
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infernal machines posted:The uphill battle will be not just getting these fuckheads out to the polls, but ensuring that they arrive with the understanding that they can't just vote for PP, they have to X the circle next to the Conservative candidate. Going by the Convoy folk, the Fox News brainrot is pretty strong here so that uphill battle is more like a sheer cliff-face.
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Oct 6, 2022 18:55
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What's the whole deal with all the news stories and candidates harping on about violent crime in BC? As far as I can tell, it's dropped overall, and the only thing that's gone up has been level 1 sexual assault, which is probably not so much going up as being actually reported more often. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2022001/article/00013-eng.htm It's pretty frustrating -- the Vancouver Police Union has come out and endorsed a right-wing mayoral candidate "because he's the only candidate promising to hire more police officers".
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Oct 6, 2022 18:55
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Snuffman posted:Going by the Convoy folk, the Fox News brainrot is pretty strong here so that uphill battle is more like a sheer cliff-face. Convoy folks trying to pressure provincial legislators to send their own slate of electors to affirm PeePee as Pee Emm
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Oct 6, 2022 18:56
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Snuffman posted:Going by the Convoy folk, the Fox News brainrot is pretty strong here so that uphill battle is more like a sheer cliff-face. Yeah, maybe I'm underestimating the civic literacy of the kind of people who find a video on Youtube using the #mgtow hashtag, but I'm betting not. Lead out in cuffs posted:What's the whole deal with all the news stories and candidates harping on about violent crime in BC? As far as I can tell, it's dropped overall, and the only thing that's gone up has been level 1 sexual assault, which is probably not so much going up as being actually reported more often. Fear drives votes from low info voters and people are primed to believe narratives about increased violent crime because that's what makes headlines. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Oct 6, 2022 |
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Oct 6, 2022 18:57
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infernal machines posted:His team is really banking on getting a generation of toxic disaffected dipshits out to vote. Between incels and boomers they're gonna keep winning elections.
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Oct 6, 2022 19:02
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Oct 6, 2022 19:02
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Lead out in cuffs posted:What's the whole deal with all the news stories and candidates harping on about violent crime in BC? As far as I can tell, it's dropped overall, and the only thing that's gone up has been level 1 sexual assault, which is probably not so much going up as being actually reported more often. You mean Global TV, who also has been showcasing the same candidate the police union endorsed. It is largely a manufactured crisis, though there is obviously a real mental health/housing crisis occurring. Sadly, neither of those will be addressed and we will only get increased police budgets.
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Oct 6, 2022 19:12
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infernal machines posted:The uphill battle will be not just getting these fuckheads out to the polls, but ensuring that they arrive with the understanding that they can't just vote for PP, they have to X the circle next to the Conservative candidate. Too bad you can't write-in candidates in Canada, we could have PP representing half the country directly
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Oct 6, 2022 19:18
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ChickenDoodle posted:I need to go vote in the municipal election but I live in Surrey and I hate everyone. I just hate McCallum the most. im in vancouver and beyond the socialists and a couple of the cope candidates there is nobody i want to vote for. for mayor it is even more bleak. might just vote for the indigenous woman because gently caress everyone else
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Oct 6, 2022 19:20
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Cool Kids Club Soda posted:Too bad you can't write-in candidates in Canada, we could have PP representing half the country directly He'd deserve it too
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Oct 6, 2022 19:22
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Lead out in cuffs posted:What's the whole deal with all the news stories and candidates harping on about violent crime in BC? As far as I can tell, it's dropped overall, and the only thing that's gone up has been level 1 sexual assault, which is probably not so much going up as being actually reported more often. I can't speak to elsewhere but I recalled seeing this article that says according to some Stats Canada info the violent crime severity rate in Nanaimo has been increasing. Of course this is a relative rate and exactly what sort of absolute numbers are could be an entirely different story. https://www.nanaimobulletin.com/news/statistics-show-violent-crime-severity-up-44-per-cent-in-nanaimo/ quote:The severity of violent crime in Nanaimo took a turn for the worse in 2021, surging more than 44 per cent to 146.0 on the index scale from 101.4 in 2020 – a year with statistics skewed by the effects of the pandemic. Before that, Nanaimo’s violent crime severity index climbed for several years, from 76.9 to 85.4 to 101.4 between 2017 and 2019. Maybe this is just Nanaimo being Nam-hole but from my limited understanding, the causes of this increase isn't unique to this city.
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Oct 6, 2022 19:24
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Are there really that many incels? r/MGOTW had less subscribers than the Supernatural subreddit when it was banned. And aren’t most of them voting conservative already? Seems like a losing strategy
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Oct 6, 2022 19:28
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Most of them probably aren't voting. And no, on the whole there are not really that many of them. Just like all the other individual fringe groups. Presumably he's hoping for a big tent of loving whackjobs PP's campaigns so far have claimed to bring in new voters, and they demonstrably target a younger crowd with their social media. Whether that's actually translating into new votes remains to be seen.
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Oct 6, 2022 19:30
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Starks posted:Are there really that many incels? r/MGOTW had less subscribers than the Supernatural subreddit when it was banned. And aren’t most of them voting conservative already? Seems like a losing strategy Ngl I thought a Supernatural reddit would have more than 200k subs
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Oct 6, 2022 19:33
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infernal machines posted:"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" Incels aren't hoping to get laid. They just want to punish women for not wanting them.
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Oct 6, 2022 19:36
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What if the riding candidate is a woman?!
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Oct 6, 2022 19:39
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We're still talking about the CPC, right? Pretty good odds they won't be at 22 out of 118 currently elected CPC MPs
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Oct 6, 2022 19:45
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I wonder if the CPC will wind down trying to appeal to recent immigrants, they had been making big inroads there. It'd be insanely dumb to switch to incels, a group that by definition won't have really great prospects to expand the base, lol
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Oct 6, 2022 19:50
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Are you suggesting the party Harper absolutely destroyed is having trouble with long term planning?
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Oct 6, 2022 19:53
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Do you think you know Pierre Poilievre? His YouTube channel promotes itself with incel tags. [quick cut to pictures of the Toronto van attack on CTV] Alex Minassian says he wishes more women were killed.. [cut to public safety about stabbing attack]... 17 year old boy killed a woman.. Police found evidence he was motivated by incel ideology... [cut to Elliott Rodgers]... so called hero of the incel movement is popular with white supremacists as well.. Can you vote for Canada's first incel prime minister?
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Oct 6, 2022 20:03
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Xaranthius posted:I can't speak to elsewhere but I recalled seeing this article that says according to some Stats Canada info the violent crime severity rate in Nanaimo has been increasing. Of course this is a relative rate and exactly what sort of absolute numbers are could be an entirely different story. Yeah violent crime went down everywhere in 2020 due to lockdown, and went back up in 2021. And while it looks higher in 2021 than 2019, one of the things driving that, both per that article and per the Stats Can article I linked, is an increase in reporting/investigation of level 1 sexual assaults.
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Oct 6, 2022 20:09
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Lead out in cuffs posted:What's the whole deal with all the news stories and candidates harping on about violent crime in BC? As far as I can tell, it's dropped overall, and the only thing that's gone up has been level 1 sexual assault, which is probably not so much going up as being actually reported more often. At least in Victoria the "downtown isn't safe" narrative means "there are too many homeless people downtown'
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Oct 6, 2022 20:49
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large hands posted:At least in Victoria the "downtown isn't safe" narrative means "there are too many homeless people downtown' Yeah I get the vibe that it may be the same thing in Vancouver. I'm just dreading getting some "tough on crime" city council who are too busy making the problem worse by throwing more police at it to get on with dealing with the housing crisis.
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Oct 6, 2022 21:00
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There's been a few "stranger attacks" lately in Vancouver where people are missing their own business only to get someone randomly attack them with a knife/machete/brick/whatever. I think the thing the media is harping on now is repeat offenders, ie the people doing the attacking being known to have done some attacking before with little consequence. I do think the media are hyping this way up in an election year but it is hard to dismiss these things actually happening.
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Oct 6, 2022 21:57
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Madkal posted:There's been a few "stranger attacks" lately in Vancouver where people are missing their own business only to get someone randomly attack them with a knife/machete/brick/whatever. I think the thing the media is harping on now is repeat offenders, ie the people doing the attacking being known to have done some attacking before with little consequence. I do think the media are hyping this way up in an election year but it is hard to dismiss these things actually happening. Do you have links to some articles and such?
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Oct 6, 2022 22:04
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Do you have links to some articles and such? Gonna post via phone but here are some links https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/fairview-random-attacks-vancouver-1.6557157 https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/british-columbia/2022/9/26/1_6085139.amp.html https://globalnews.ca/news/9174176/vancouver-bystanders-random-attack/ https://www.kamloopsbcnow.com/water...student_police/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-man-arrested-after-random-gas-station-attack-in-vancouver-police-say-2/ https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/bystanders-stop-stranger-attack-downtown
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Oct 6, 2022 22:28
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Madkal posted:Gonna post via phone but here are some links Those all just seem like random incidents though? FWIW the 2021 violent crime index for Metro Van was well below the national average: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2022001/article/00013-eng.htm (See Chart F6).
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Oct 6, 2022 23:01
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Those all just seem like random incidents though? I put the lower number towards people were staying indoors during a pandemic and going out less, as well as less businesses being open. And yea the random incidents are what are getting people up in arms (and the perception that people who do the random attacks seem to be in a catch and release* pattern) *I hate this term and it is what the tough on crime critics have been harping on a lot to attack the current government. From personal experience I have a family member on my wife's side who suffers from a drug addiction and has been caught numerous times stealing and such. He has been arrested a bunch but not for very long. I don't believe he should go to jail because that probably won't help him but he refuses to go for any treatment (unless physically dragged to it by his mom) and it just becomes a vicious cycle that I am sure many others are sadly looped into. The only time he did go to jail was when driving under the influence and nearly killing another driver.
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Oct 6, 2022 23:17
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Yes. Look at what some of the Provinces are electing or have elected in recent history. Look at what Italy just did... They're winning because they show up and vote and are united (racists, and all) and the left is busy bickering within its own ranks. I hope I'm wrong, but I'll eat a big hot dog if PP doesn't become PM. 
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Oct 7, 2022 00:00
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Madkal posted:I put the lower number towards people were staying indoors during a pandemic and going out less, as well as less businesses being open. For sure. Where are you getting the "catch and release" stuff though? I don't think I saw that in any of the articles you linked.
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Oct 7, 2022 00:28
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Lead out in cuffs posted:For sure. Sorry. I thought you were asking for links about stranger attacks. This has been happening in question period lately where the BCLibs have been attacking the BCNDP about repeat offenders being released only to offend over and over again. Now the fact that it's the BCLibs doing the complaining means that they would do absolutely nothing to fix the situation except find a way to make it worse. Unfortunately all the the public hears is that repeat offenders are causing a lot of problems. https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/british-columbia/2022/10/4/1_6096470.amp.html Here is an article where they were talking about putting together some experts to figure out what to do with repeat offenders. https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/bc-experts-repeat-prolific-offenders I see that the government has published something about steps to be taken in dealing with repeat offenders. I haven't read it myself yet.
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Oct 7, 2022 00:46
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redbrouw posted:Do you think you know Pierre Poilievre? His YouTube channel promotes itself with incel tags. Pierre Poilievre actually announced he wants to increase incel presence in our cities. Canadians cities. Incels with vans. In our cities. In Canada. We did NOT make this up.
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Oct 7, 2022 01:04
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Stanley Pain posted:Yes. Look at what some of the Provinces are electing or have elected in recent history. Look at what Italy just did... We've had three elections, a majority and two minority federal Liberal governments in the time the provinces have been electing Conservatives*. There isn't any real correlation between the federal and provincial votes. Whether or not PP's idiotic schtick works, it won't have much to do with who's running the provincial governments come election time. *In the same time frame, the CPC has taken such a poo poo kicking that they're on their third leader, our very special boy himself being the only one left. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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Oct 7, 2022 01:22
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