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AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

Takes No Damage posted:

I thought we were having fun posting lines/references to that scene, but it appears we simply aren't operating on the level of mutual respect I assumed. You have made a powerful posting enemy this day :argh:

Respect is a lie.
Never give up! Never surrender!
Victory is life!
Glory to Glorzo! :zpatriot:

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Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

wtf that episode was actually good

Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

syaing that, they should cancel this show 5 years ago and put all the writers and animmators on a registry because it seems like every episode is them working out their hosed up sexual hangups

Edit: lmao ofc bust rodd has like 30 million posts in here

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
I don't know, I've been increasingly certain that sci fi is fundamentally and inextricably derived from hosed up sexual hangups

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

ikanreed posted:

I don't know, I've been increasingly certain that sci fi is fundamentally and inextricably derived from hosed up sexual hangups

All art, really. :okpos:

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
I bitched about it in a gbs thread because of game of thrones and now house of dragon you got incest talk, Then you have all the weird incest porn, I mean step sibbling porn and then Rick and morty do this....really close to the whole beth and space beth poo poo.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light
I'm currently reading Allen Steele's Sanctuary and came across this passage. I want to believe it's a Rick & Morty reference.

hatty
Feb 28, 2011

Pork Pro
What is Greek mythology but some poets expressing their weird beastiality hangups

Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

Ups_rail posted:

I bitched about it in a gbs thread because of game of thrones and now house of dragon you got incest talk, Then you have all the weird incest porn, I mean step sibbling porn and then Rick and morty do this....really close to the whole beth and space beth poo poo.

animators are infamously huge freaks

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer
^^^
*oof* right in the fond Ren and Stimpy memories :(

Ups_rail posted:

I bitched about it in a gbs thread because of game of thrones and now house of dragon you got incest talk,

TBF a lot of that is because GoT is based on European history and *side-eyes Hapsburg family tree*

Takes No Damage fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Oct 7, 2022

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice

Ups_rail posted:

I bitched about it in a gbs thread because of game of thrones and now house of dragon you got incest talk, Then you have all the weird incest porn, I mean step sibbling porn and then Rick and morty do this....really close to the whole beth and space beth poo poo.

Yeah. HoD is definitely normalizing and mainstreaming incest way way more than R&M. In Game of Thromes it was seen as weird and gross but now th fanbase is shipping all the relatives together like it was Pokemon breeding.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Thundercracker posted:

Yeah. HoD is definitely normalizing and mainstreaming incest way way more than R&M. In Game of Thromes it was seen as weird and gross but now th fanbase is shipping all the relatives together like it was Pokemon breeding.

I really disagree re: OG Thrones. There were heaps of Jamie and Cersei shippers -- people loved Jamie in particular, and his doomed love for his sister was a big part of that appeal. There were even more Dany and Jon shippers. To say nothing of the scene where Theon attempts to fingerbang Yara on that horse (DnD originally wanted Yara to be played by Lilly Allen lmfao).

And what about porn? Twin fantasies? Or manga and anime? Or the bajillionty TikTok memes with women stuck in tumble dryers? Or Euphoria? Skins? Carnivale? Rome? What about narratives that didn't actively court incest but found themselves as nesting grounds for significant incest fascinated fanbases, like Supernatural, The Vampire Diaries, and Greco-Roman mythology?

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Open Source Idiom posted:

And what about porn? Twin fantasies? Or manga and anime? Or the bajillionty TikTok memes with women stuck in tumble dryers? Or Euphoria? Skins? Carnivale? Rome? What about narratives that didn't actively court incest but found themselves as nesting grounds for significant incest fascinated fanbases, like Supernatural, The Vampire Diaries, and Greco-Roman mythology?

So my take back when porno movies were in a gray area legally due to obscenity laws vs free speech so you had to have a plot amoung other things. You couldnt put a gonzo movie in theaters but you could tell a story.

Like taboo mother son comes to mind and while weird you can argue the uncomfortable aspect was part of what the "art" was.

Or that weird twin sisters porno with them doing a black mass or something.

I liked vivid videos porn in the 1990s cause it felt like the people behind the camera really wanted to make music videos or sci fi films.

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



...I just realized that this story about someone desperately trying to avoid the pre-ordained destiny of loving their own mom was probably an intentional Oedipus Rex homage.

I mean, I guess they could have accomplished the same thing thing with the fortune cookie saying he'd murder his dad, but it's easier to imagine a situation where that could accidentally happen. Jerry somehow unintentionally loving his mom because of Final Destination style contrived destiny is a more absurd scenario.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

I'm gonna' ignore the social implications of joking about incest for the moment.

They keep doing this same thing and this is the only time it's been an actual, well-crafted joke.

Usually it's more "incest. That's the joke. incest exists. Laugh at my joke where I mentioned that incest exists."

And they wanted it to be bigger than that, but people didn't connect to the first big scifi plot device of "we're gonna' come up with a convolutated way for two of our characters do an incest" and so they did it the gently caress again. Three of the four Smiths have now had incest forced upon them, or nearly so.

And this time it was at least finally a well-crafted joke (one that probably shouldn't have existed, but again I'm ignoring the social implications for now), so maybe they can just knock it the gently caress off now that they got their laugh.

And me wanting them to stop because it's not appealing to me is just as valid as the opinion that incest jokes are the tops and you hope they keep doing it, but I know which of us looks like a fuckin' weirdo and it sure as poo poo ain't me.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

LividLiquid posted:

And me wanting them to stop because it's not appealing to me is just as valid as the opinion that incest jokes are the tops and you hope they keep doing it, but I know which of us looks like a fuckin' weirdo and it sure as poo poo ain't me.

What is this logic.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



im fuckin the stab hole

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


imo the other times (incest baby, mind orgy with the slut dragons) were unfunny and kinda uncomfortable but that doesn't change the fact that this episode is good and jerry desperately trying to avoid being final destinationed into loving his mum is very funny

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Phenotype posted:

im fuckin the stab hole

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

I liked this episode and feel like the backlash is overblown (at least in this instance) but I feel like pointing out that Roiland can be actually way grosser isn’t really a counter argument

Eiba
Jul 26, 2007


LividLiquid posted:

I'm gonna' ignore the social implications of joking about incest for the moment.

They keep doing this same thing and this is the only time it's been an actual, well-crafted joke.
Oh. Yeah I actually think this is really fair and I largely agree with it.

I thought the objections were to this episode, which I thought was actually good. This show usually is much lazier and less funny with its incest references.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Guy A. Person posted:

I liked this episode and feel like the backlash is overblown (at least in this instance) but I feel like pointing out that Roiland can be actually way grosser isn’t really a counter argument


it kinda is, cause like, yknow, you don't go to a mexican restaurant and complain that there's all these beans and tortillas everywhere.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Eiba posted:

Oh. Yeah I actually think this is really fair and I largely agree with it.

I thought the objections were to this episode, which I thought was actually good. This show usually is much lazier and less funny with its incest references.

The part you quoted is agreeable, but the post continues on to claim that anyone who takes the opposite side to the OP is "a fuckin' weirdo" so it's pretty clear their point isn't really that fair or even handed.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp
All of the incest hand wringing is weird in this thread about a hosed up comedy cartoon

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
All the incest hand wringing hand wringing is really weird.

The Human Crouton
Sep 20, 2002

Incest is normal.

TheFattestPat
Dec 28, 2012

Santa Cat Says: Good deeds are the things to always do, just make sure someone is watching you

PneumonicBook posted:

All of the incest hand wringing is weird in this thread about a hosed up comedy cartoon

That's because SA forum members have no deviancy in their respectable lives, so seeing something like this is very upsetting.

RBX
Jan 2, 2011

I'm so wet!

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
The slut dragon thing was funny

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

The Human Crouton posted:

Incest is normal.

The very first episode of 7th Heaven, known for it's extreme sexual deviancy, had an extended joke about Jessica Biel "practicing kissing" with her brother. When her dad caught them he just rolled his eyes and walked away. Incest is an important part traditional American way of life! DON"T YOU TAKE MY INCEST AWAY FROM ME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McksEDf8R_Q

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

XboxPants posted:

The very first episode of 7th Heaven, known for it's extreme sexual deviancy, had an extended joke about Jessica Biel "practicing kissing" with her brother. When her dad caught them he just rolled his eyes and walked away. Incest is an important part traditional American way of life! DON"T YOU TAKE MY INCEST AWAY FROM ME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McksEDf8R_Q

Devil's Advocate, but if Jessica Beil was my sister.........

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
This and the slut dragons were also plots where the comedy incest was forced on people without their consent.

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

XboxPants posted:

The very first episode of 7th Heaven, known for it's extreme sexual deviancy, had an extended joke about Jessica Biel "practicing kissing" with her brother. When her dad caught them he just rolled his eyes and walked away. Incest is an important part traditional American way of life! DON"T YOU TAKE MY INCEST AWAY FROM ME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McksEDf8R_Q

Thats like the time my little brother went to summer camp and their was gonna be a kissing party at the girls camp but he and his bunk mate never kissed before and were like all nervous so they practiced kissing eachother, and people question their sexuality. When it was just weird stupid kid stuff, and practice doesnt count

Pastamania
Mar 5, 2012

You cannot know.
The things I've seen.
The things I've done.
The things he made me do.
I mean, if by 'not their consent' you mean, 'they actively tuned into a comedy TV cartoon that has been regularly doing gross out shock humour for like a decade now' then, like, sure. Of all the weird uncomfortable poo poo this show does, this sure is a weirdly specific thing to get so hung up on.

Rick taking his granddaughter to a drug fuelled space orgy or his grandson to get 'dat mermaid puss' is way more hosed up. Or, y'know, all the many, many horrific violent murders in like every episode.

What show have you all been watching this whole time?

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Pastamania posted:

I mean, if by 'not their consent' you mean, 'they actively tuned into a comedy TV cartoon that has been regularly doing gross out shock humour for like a decade now' then, like, sure. Of all the weird uncomfortable poo poo this show does, this sure is a weirdly specific thing to get so hung up on.

Rick taking his granddaughter to a drug fuelled space orgy or his grandson to get 'dat mermaid puss' is way more hosed up. Or, y'know, all the many, many horrific violent murders in like every episode.

What show have you all been watching this whole time?

I'm way more offended by the slut dragon episode just by virtue of it being so lovely. Same for the voltron episode, which also featured incest-related content. I didn't consent to having my time disrespected.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Phenotype posted:

it kinda is, cause like, yknow, you don't go to a mexican restaurant and complain that there's all these beans and tortillas everywhere.

Lol that’s not at all what’s happening

It’s more like I find pubes in my taco and complain to the waiter who says I’m lucky because when they hired the chef he was running a smaller place where he put way more pubes in everything

FireWorksWell
Nov 27, 2014

(It's you!)


XboxPants posted:

I'm way more offended by the slut dragon episode just by virtue of it being so lovely.

It'd be my vote for worst episode if not for the heist episode right before it, I did enjoy the end of the talking cat plot

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

XboxPants posted:

I'm way more offended by the slut dragon episode just by virtue of it being so lovely.

I liked the cat subplot.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Guy A. Person posted:

Lol that’s not at all what’s happening

It’s more like I find pubes in my taco and complain to the waiter who says I’m lucky because when they hired the chef he was running a smaller place where he put way more pubes in everything

but the billboard out in front says "Justin Roiland's hosed-Up-rear end Restaurant: Best Pubes, Poop, and Weird Sex Stuff in Town" and you're still acting like the pubes are a surprise.

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Leatherhead
Jul 3, 2006

For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed;
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still

Phenotype posted:

but the billboard out in front says "Justin Roiland's hosed-Up-rear end Restaurant: Best Pubes, Poop, and Weird Sex Stuff in Town" and you're still acting like the pubes are a surprise.

The question in this metaphor is why you guys like eating the pubes so much.

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