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holefoods posted:I still manage my own music library as well. I use iTunes and pay for iTunes Match. $30 a year and I can access everything on all of my devices? It’s a great deal and I don’t even know if anyone at Apple is even aware that it’s still running. The renewal emails still have their design language from like 10 years ago. They are, I can't speak for renewal emails but the support articles on the website did example still get regular updates (the basic "Subscribe to iTunes Match" one was updated August 2021 for example)
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iTunes Match definitely is included with Apple Music. Last time I switched phones a bunch of stuff I ripped myself that isn’t available on streaming was on my phone without me syncing it.
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LifeSunDeath posted:e, wtf that poo poo still exists...oof lmao I might have to try it. One of the pleasures of the '90s internet was looking for something really obscure and tweaking the keywords until you hit the jackpot. Now the  "AI" throws your search query in the garbage and decides on its own what you must have searched for, because it clearly knows better than you.
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Kazy posted:I've had them change entire song versions out on me. Spotify does (or used to do this) as well. Like original recordings become re-recorded studio band versions.
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It's truly a terrible music service. I only use it because it came with YT Premium, but I've honestly paid for Spotify on top of it before.
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Woolie Wool posted:lmao I might have to try it. One of the pleasures of the '90s internet was looking for something really obscure and tweaking the keywords until you hit the jackpot. Now the I remember being able to datascrape for movies by typing the titles and making google only show results that end in MP4 etc.
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Chemmy posted:iTunes Match definitely is included with Apple Music. Last time I switched phones a bunch of stuff I ripped myself that isn’t available on streaming was on my phone without me syncing it. iTunes Match is a separate service that provides DRM free versions of matched tracks that you can still listen to if you stop subscribing. Apple Music will still match and upload tracks but they are DRM-encumbered and will stop working if your subscription lapses.
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I'd argue that DRM is an obsolete and failed technology, unlike most of the stuff ITT no person on earth will miss it.
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By popular demand posted:I'd argue that DRM is an obsolete and failed technology, unlike most of the stuff ITT no person on earth will miss it. I blame metallica
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By popular demand posted:I'd argue that DRM is an obsolete and failed technology, unlike most of the stuff ITT no person on earth will miss it. Kill it with fire
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Wipfmetz posted:In which situation would you like a song on Youtube Music but not on Youtube? i use my likes as "cool video i may want to come back to later" storage, i guess? yeah i could make playlists. sometimes i do. favs also work for this, and i use that for similar but different things. i'd like music to know what i listen to on youtube, but i don't want every song i like showing up in my likes list. 
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LifeSunDeath posted:I blame metallica 
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From 1995... https://twitter.com/lindseybieda/status/1577774103989129216?s=20&t=HL8bEOgZFWAEBx23GNU0-w
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Dick Trauma posted:From 1995... Holy poo poo. This is my new favorite video. The Excellence of Execution indeed.
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By popular demand posted:I'd argue that DRM is an obsolete and failed technology, unlike most of the stuff ITT no person on earth will miss it. Surely it's neither, they just figured out how to do DRM without pissing off the legit end user? Netflix, Disney+, Spotify et al all have practically seamless DRM we could only dream of in the Playsforsure, Sony rootkit etc era. And god drat was that era a chore. It's been a decade and I'm still pissed about the Peep Show dvd I got for my birthday that wouldn't play because of a botched Ripguard implementation (never fixed. "try it on a different player" was the solution). When there was no legal way to watch Always Sunny in the UK I imported the region 1 DVDs only to find out they had "enhanced region encoding" to prevent them playing on region free players. Lesson learned, stop trying to give your company money, got it.
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Yeah, it’s definitely more that you don’t notice it anymore. The best DRM was just herding everyone over to streaming. It completely changed how most people interact with files because most people don’t interact with them at all anymore. How long has it been since you let someone borrow a DVD or burned them a CD or gave them a flash drive with media on it? You probably haven’t done it for years because everyone just points people to what streaming service things are available on and it’s why “xxxxx show is leaving streaming” articles are all over the place.
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I'm still opposed to anything that modifies your machine to limit you, I use GOG not Steam. Good thing I stopped caring about AAA games.
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I remember having to look up what DRM specific games came with so I could rip and burn with Alcohol 120% correctly for my friends. We had a nice little groupshare going on.
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Piracy is easier than ever in the video and movie space. Streaming makes that ever easier, not harder.
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And that is why it's a failed technology.
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By popular demand posted:I'd argue that DRM is an obsolete and failed technology, unlike most of the stuff ITT no person on earth will miss it. It wasn't failed, it usually met its goal. In the mid '00s when I was working on games, the goal for DRM was generally to delay most piracy for about 2 months after launch, and a lot of the DRM at the time did that. Although often the more successful thing was to just have the game studios pre-pirate their own game but broken in a way you couldn't tell until after ~20 minutes of play. Most of the people pirating were just digital hoarders and didn't even notice.
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To watch my shows on a Thursday, I have to use five different apps on three different devices OR I can get them all with one click each from a free website that lists them all together in one place, and watch them on a single app on a single device.
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Chainclaw posted:Most of the people pirating were just digital hoarders and didn't even notice. in other words, piracy never affected bottom lines much because those people wouldn't ever have bought the <product> to begin with?
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TotalLossBrain posted:in other words, piracy never affected bottom lines much because those people wouldn't ever have bought the <product> to begin with? I think it depended on the platform. On PSP, I remember publishers were blaming piracy on low sales the first few years. It's hard to say if game sales would have actually been higher if piracy on the PSP was not so trivial, but generally publishers were looking at number of systems sold (the hardware sold really well) compared to attachment rates and future software sales (which were real bad early on), but also that could have been a lot of horny teens buying PSPs to watch porn on, who had no intention of buying games in the first place. DS piracy didn't really have an impact on sales. Didn't stop some publishers from forcing us to put lovely DRM into games later into the DS life cycle. The bigger impact piracy had was forcing newer, worse DRM schemes into games and hardware. 3DS games, especially at launch, had load times because Nintendo was so upset about piracy on the DS, they put a way too expensive DRM solution into the hardware itself that really made it frustrating to develop for. We couldn't treat the cartridges as cartridges anymore and just load files when we needed them, every file read came with an expensive DRM check, so we had to treat it more like a spinning disc system, shove a level's worth of content into a zip file so we could load it with one DRM check, and then unpack it in memory to get to the content.
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holefoods posted:. How long has it been since you let someone borrow a DVD or burned them a CD or gave them a flash drive with media on it? I recently had some VHS tapes converted to DVD, then I ripped those into files on my laptop, but I don't think it's a common occurrence. My favourite DRM was for Spyro 3. It just detected piracy, and messed with your game in various ways. The devs knew it would just delay, not stop, pirates, but it did boost early sales iirc. Also was it Earthbound that would delete your save at the final boss if you pirated it? I remember it also had other effects
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Yeah, Earthbound would let you get to the end of the game and then delete your save.
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holefoods posted:I’ve noticed that lately it seems to do its best to ignore any quotes you’ve put around words or any other search modifiers you’re trying to use. Search is the last google product I regularly use, guess it’s time to go elsewhere for that as well. The most useful Google feature of all time was discussion search, so of course they killed that off Is there a good alternative search engine that gives results along the lines of 2012 Google?
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RMC unboxes a 50-year-old Magnavox Odyssey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2asqEiVaFY
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Chainclaw posted:I think it depended on the platform. On PSP, I remember publishers were blaming piracy on low sales the first few years. It's hard to say if game sales would have actually been higher if piracy on the PSP was not so trivial, but generally publishers were looking at number of systems sold (the hardware sold really well) compared to attachment rates and future software sales (which were real bad early on), but also that could have been a lot of horny teens buying PSPs to watch porn on, who had no intention of buying games in the first place. Well the biggest thing with psp piracy is that games would run straight up better with it.
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Cojawfee posted:Yeah, Earthbound would let you get to the end of the game and then delete your save. It would also up the encounter rate a poo poo ton. The whole game every step you take in a hostile area you're just swarmed by enemies. Which has now become a way people intentionally play the game, it's way harder but you can still get through it.
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DRM was a nice lecture in "good for the acting body, bad for the industry". Yes, I'll believe it delayed or reduced losses to piracy on an individual game. Yes, I remember that due to how often the DRM broke legitimate purchases, the late 1990s and early 2000s actively educated people on how to find cracks and warez on the internet. No, i don't think that this did the industry any good. Same goes for BDs which I've had to return to the store since somehow the producers were allowed to introduce copy protection tech and the drive manufactures were just lightly encouraged to update their drives? Chainclaw posted:[3DS file access] Wipfmetz has a new favorite as of 06:13 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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LifeSunDeath posted:I blame metallica Arrath posted:Kill it with fire They almost did! But they put him out with beer! Speaking of obsolete: remember flash videos? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeKX2bNP7QM
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Chainclaw posted:The bigger impact piracy had was forcing newer, worse DRM schemes into games and hardware. 3DS games, especially at launch, had load times because Nintendo was so upset about piracy on the DS, they put a way too expensive DRM solution into the hardware itself that really made it frustrating to develop for. We couldn't treat the cartridges as cartridges anymore and just load files when we needed them, every file read came with an expensive DRM check, so we had to treat it more like a spinning disc system, shove a level's worth of content into a zip file so we could load it with one DRM check, and then unpack it in memory to get to the content. Second hand knowledge but QA-ing that era of games was apparently just as miserable, with Nintendo needing to deliver weekly cartridges instead of anything normal for file distribution
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Gaming piracy ruins gaming for me to be honest. Having EVERY game there makes me scroll through it all and barely play. Great to show friends for 10 minutes or so. I did grow up with 1 maybe 2 games a year as gifts when I was a kid though. On the flipside I run a increasingly large Plex server and movie/tv streaming discord server for out of print or hard to find movies. Streaming in this case has enhanced my viewing habits.
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Humphreys posted:Gaming piracy ruins gaming for me to be honest. Having EVERY game there makes me scroll through it all and barely play. Great to show friends for 10 minutes or so. I did grow up with 1 maybe 2 games a year as gifts when I was a kid though. Then again, Steam is perfectly legal and has the same problem. Just browsing the games I own can turn into "sit there and look at the names without launching anything", and the store is almost paralysing.
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Computer viking posted:Then again, Steam is perfectly legal and has the same problem. Just browsing the games I own can turn into "sit there and look at the names without launching anything", and the store is almost paralysing. These days I only browse my wishlist for deals. I get email notifications but they're never complete in their listing of what games are on sale this week/weekend.
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Computer viking posted:Then again, Steam is perfectly legal and has the same problem. Just browsing the games I own can turn into "sit there and look at the names without launching anything", and the store is almost paralysing. I keep my Steam library mostly on the "Only show installed games" and "Sort by last played" mode. And I only have a handful of games installed at any given time. Works for me. I have similar problems if I see a huge list of games. Kwyndig posted:These days I only browse my wishlist for deals. I get email notifications but they're never complete in their listing of what games are on sale this week/weekend. 
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lobsterminator posted:I keep my Steam library mostly on the "Only show installed games" and "Sort by last played" mode. And I only have a handful of games installed at any given time. Works for me. I have similar problems if I see a huge list of games. I also just write down on paper when a game sorta intrudes itself on my mind when I'm working or bored, it seems to forestall distraction (installing it, looking it up online, etc.). "Okay, you thought of Game. Write its title down and you can maybe play it later." I almost never play it later. It's admittedly a weird thing to do, but I and my environment have trained my brain to look for distractions and it helps with training it the other way. I'm at a place where looking at a game on a list--on a screen, or on paper--isn't paralyzing, it's satisfying. Not in a "I've accomplished something" sense, but in a "I've acknowledged the need for distraction or fun" sense, enough so I can do something else that I'd rather do, or have to do, that's less immediately rewarding.
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