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I reinstalled the game to give it a try, and the high points were, it's still Overwatch, Mystery Heroes is still in, and in a very pleasant surprise, Mystery Heroes doesn't give a single poo poo who you've got unlocked. The downside, and it's major, is that after just one evening playing, I miss the lootboxes. I played enough to clear three Daily Challenges and got up to rank 3 on the battle pass. In OW1, that would've been four lootboxes -- 2 level-ups and 6 Arcade wins. Four lootboxes means I would've gotten 16 things, even if any amount of them would've been dupes. My haul for the night: one player icon. This seems like an insane grind for very little reward. Pay for the battle pass or get next to nothing at extremely spaced out intervals. Even if you do pay for the battle pass, get the same cosmetics as everyone else. Want to get what you want for the hero you like best? Get hosed, buddy -- you get 60 coins a week. Max. If you grind eleven challenges, every single week. A single skin costs 2000 coins. So basically I'm looking at a new game where my choices are to get absolutely no cosmetics, or pay money every nine goddamn weeks to get the same cosmetics as everyone else, where if I grind like a madman day in and day out, I can have one skin of my choosing per year. As a treat. Oh, and also if I don't want to pay money and I fall behind on the grind, I can get locked out of entire goddamn heroes, possibly permanently? Or, at the very least, judging by skin costs, without shelling out an exorbitant amount of real money later? gently caress this. Rather than playing for a while until something else comes out that grabs my attention for a bit or I get sick or just don't want to play and I fall unrecoverably behind on the grind and can't catch up, why don't I just skip to the end and stop playing right away?
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 19:39 |
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Does crossplay allow console players to play with pcplayers in comp now? That seems like an oversight. Console comp was a lot softer and pretty fun when you only played against console pool so thats a bummer. It also runs surprisingly well on switch but screw queing comp if its a global pool
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 19:39 |
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CapnAndy posted:I reinstalled the game to give it a try, and the high points were, it's still Overwatch, Mystery Heroes is still in, and in a very pleasant surprise, Mystery Heroes doesn't give a single poo poo who you've got unlocked. You know you can just play games because the gameplay is good instead of grinding meaningless cosmetics you can’t even see. You know that, right?
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 19:42 |
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I like how the game doesn't show you any more what rank other players are. Presumably because they're relaxing matchmaking requirements to solve the queue times. The whole "we won't tell you what rank you are until you lose 20 times" thing would support that idea as well.
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Jack Trades posted:I like how the game doesn't show you any more what rank other players are. Presumably because they're relaxing matchmaking requirements to solve the queue times. Also the dread of seeing rank go down every match because you had a troll or leaver really sucked the desire to play out of a ton of competitive players.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 19:44 |
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Bottom Liner posted:Also the dread of seeing rank go down every match because you had a troll or leaver really sucked the desire to play out of a ton of competitive players. That's just a post hoc explanation on their part. They claim a lot of things, like changing the balance to not require hard counters anymore. Yet Pharah is completely unchanged.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 19:45 |
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CapnAndy posted:I reinstalled the game to give it a try, and the high points were, it's still Overwatch, Mystery Heroes is still in, and in a very pleasant surprise, Mystery Heroes doesn't give a single poo poo who you've got unlocked. Just play the game dude - cosmetics in overwatch always seemed like a slight distraction to me and I never really cared much, it was fun to get loot boxes, but I have no desire to even click on the battlepass.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 19:50 |
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Bottom Liner posted:You know you can just play games because the gameplay is good instead of grinding meaningless cosmetics you can’t even see. You know that, right? And personally I think "cosmetics are meaningless" is disengenous -- self-expression is a pretty basic desire, and if they truly didn't matter, nobody would want them, but fine, for purposes of this, they're meaningless. Heroes aren't, and if I can already tell that I'm gonna lose my appetite for grinding before I unlock them, is a game where you slowly pile up a screen full of lock icons on character select really okay to you? CapnAndy fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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gently caress SNEEP posted:None of those are free to play games. Neither was Overwatch, it was $60 for six straight years.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 19:52 |
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Just ignore how every facet of capitalism steadily makes your existence a little worse every minute of every day and consume the product.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 19:53 |
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Any news on when exactly the phone number requirement for legacy players will be dropped besides the nebulous "October 7th"? Don't feel like sitting in queue again only to be told "you need a phone number".
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Bottom Liner posted:You know you can just play games because the gameplay is good instead of grinding meaningless cosmetics you can’t even see. You know that, right? How much is Blizzard paying you to white knight every even slightly negative comment against them, m8? Or do you just love the taste of boots?
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 19:55 |
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Jack Trades posted:That's just a post hoc explanation on their part. Nah, it's a legit change to make comp not feel dogshit because micro adjustments every match really suck in practice. And Pharah is fine lmao. Jack Trades posted:Just ignore how every facet of capitalism steadily makes your existence a little worse every minute of every day and consume the product. if your existence is deeply tied to cosmetics in a f2p game, you're a lost cause CapnAndy posted:I do! That's part of why I'm so disappointed in OW2, because I can just go do that instead. Yeah, characters in BP is absolute garbage, everything else though is meaningless nonsense that doesn't matter at all. Self-expression =/= dress up in a video game, what dystopian cyberpunk hell do you want?
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 19:57 |
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It sure is neat that the only issues with overwatch 2 are related to cosmetics
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 19:58 |
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Bottom Liner posted:And Pharah is fine lmao. You're really gonna claim that Phara doesn't require countering? REALLY? EDIT: I mean, I know you're being disingenuous on purpose, I'm mostly curious about how you're gonna try to justify that.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:01 |
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it's hilarious they rolled back moira's enfeebling orb from beta. i still believe she's the best dps in the game.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:02 |
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Jack Trades posted:You're really gonna claim that Phara doesn't require countering? REALLY? Please define hard counter
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:03 |
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Bottom Liner posted:Please define hard counter Please define the word "define".
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:03 |
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love2 que heals in comp and get yelled at for playing heals wrong. if you want heals done a certain way play heals idgi
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:03 |
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Jack Trades posted:Please define the word "define". I accept your surrender.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:04 |
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I miss the chill overwatch meimei thread. Is it archived?
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:05 |
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Bottom Liner posted:I accept your surrender. Likewise
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:05 |
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Jack Trades posted:It acts like Genji's Deflect or Sigma's Absorb, where it interacts with projectiles but not beams, but until those it also for some reason blocks melee attack, which nothing else in the game does. gengu deflect has always blocked melee black.lion fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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Bottom Liner posted:I accept your surrender. Jack Trades posted:Likewise Just gently caress already, geez
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:09 |
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pretty impressive that they somehow found a way to make unlocking stuff even worse than the old lootboxes
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:11 |
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black.lion posted:gengu deflect has always blocked melee Huh, so it does. I never knew that cause that's one character I never had any interest in playing.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:13 |
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Jack Trades posted:Huh, so it does. I never knew that cause that's one character I never had any interest in playing. yar i main rein and play some gonji so ive dealt with both sides of that feature lol
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:17 |
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Jack B Nimble posted:I miss the chill overwatch meimei thread. Is it archived? Yeah. It is in archives. There is link on the 3rd OP post.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:25 |
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im depressed lol posted:Any news on when exactly the phone number requirement for legacy players will be dropped besides the nebulous "October 7th"? Go time for Overwatch 1 players, no phone number and I'm in.
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Good money is on Blizzard quickly dropping the phone requirement because the EU regulatory board told them that they effectively stole a game from everyone without one. Seems to be the way we get all of these kinds of changes.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:34 |
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JFC let people play the game they bought. I’m not having any issues but that really sucks for those that do. Honestly though, you’re not missing out on much. Gameplay is still quality but still super stale.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:36 |
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CuddleCryptid posted:Good money is on Blizzard quickly dropping the phone requirement because the EU regulatory board told them that they effectively stole a game from everyone without one. Seems to be the way we get all of these kinds of changes. quietly? they made a public statement about it already only for people who already bought OW1 though, new f2p peasants still need to give up their personal info
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:36 |
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Jack Trades posted:Cowboy's and Bastion's grenades should have a visual cue when they stick to you, like Echo's does, but they don't. It's bad. I think it's more like DVA Defense matrix and Sigma's Kinetic Grasp.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:38 |
RPATDO_LAMD posted:quietly? they made a public statement about it already I meant the reason why they did it, not because they give a poo poo. I can't think of any other reason other than the feature just having absolutely zero people QA it.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:38 |
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imagine dungeons posted:JFC let people play the game they bought. We literally cannot play the game we paid money for anymore. That's kind of the thing.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:39 |
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Jack Trades posted:We literally cannot play the game we paid money for anymore. That's pretty normal for an online game though, no? Between balance changes, expansions and content updates etc the current state of a game years after you bought it is much different than the one you originally paid money for. Even late OW1 was a pretty different experience than launch OW1.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:44 |
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Splinter posted:That's pretty normal for an online game though, no? Between balance changes, expansions and content updates etc the current state of a game years after you bought it is much different than the one you originally paid money for. Even late OW1 was a pretty different experience than launch OW1. Just because every motherfucking company forcefully retires their "services" doesn't mean that I have to like it.
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:53 |
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is there a way to change the main splash screen? im very tired of looking at cinematic camera pans across the weird evil genji skin
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# ? Oct 7, 2022 20:55 |
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Jack Trades posted:Can't wait for a worse version of the thing I paid for and losing the ability to play the better game. Jack Trades posted:We literally cannot play the game we paid money for anymore. Lmao (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Splinter posted:That's pretty normal for an online game though, no? Between balance changes, expansions and content updates etc the current state of a game years after you bought it is much different than the one you originally paid money for. Even late OW1 was a pretty different experience than launch OW1. The difference is that the new content replaced the old content and is objectively worse outside the core hero redesigns. Even then, if a new gun unlocks in TF2 or CoD it doesn't completely delete all the other guns. The only shooters that completely wipe and redesign are Battle Royale games that have to keep changing the map to keep people interested in their extremely basic core loop. In every other shooter I can imagine when you release a sequel you don't just delete the servers for the old game. Battlefield One hasn't been erased from existence just because 2042 came out because hey, maybe some people like how things were set up. CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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