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Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




priznat posted:

I wonder if the CPC will wind down trying to appeal to recent immigrants, they had been making big inroads there.

It'd be insanely dumb to switch to incels, a group that by definition won't have really great prospects to expand the base, lol

Hmm, yes, political movements have never found a use for angry young men with lots of time on their hands.

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Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

infernal machines posted:

We've had three elections, a majority and two minority federal Liberal governments in the time the provinces have been electing Conservatives*. There isn't any real correlation between the federal and provincial votes.

Whether or not PP's idiotic schtick works, it won't have much to do with who's running the provincial governments come election time.


*In the same time frame, the CPC has taken such a poo poo kicking that they're on their third leader, our very special boy himself being the only one left.

Like I said, I'll be glad to be wrong.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Madkal posted:

Sorry. I thought you were asking for links about stranger attacks.
This has been happening in question period lately where the BCLibs have been attacking the BCNDP about repeat offenders being released only to offend over and over again. Now the fact that it's the BCLibs doing the complaining means that they would do absolutely nothing to fix the situation except find a way to make it worse. Unfortunately all the the public hears is that repeat offenders are causing a lot of problems.

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/british-columbia/2022/10/4/1_6096470.amp.html

Here is an article where they were talking about putting together some experts to figure out what to do with repeat offenders.

https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/bc-experts-repeat-prolific-offenders

I see that the government has published something about steps to be taken in dealing with repeat offenders. I haven't read it myself yet.

Thanks.

Also, ugh.

At the very least I guess it's getting people to think about how we handle mental health and addiction in BC. But lol at the idea that throwing more people in jail or hiring more cops is the solution.

Albino Squirrel
Apr 25, 2003

Miosis more like meiosis
https://twitter.com/cspotweet/status/1578219762186092546?s=20&t=U9NfGBYxSvCFxCJ08xU83w

Sweet, now we get to find out how much of a province one person can burn down in 7 months.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

evilpicard posted:

Pierre Poilievre actually announced he wants to increase incel presence in our cities.

Canadians cities.

Incels with vans.

In our cities.

In Canada.

We did NOT make this up.

oh god stop giving me flashbacks to 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBuJyep42o4

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Albino Squirrel posted:

https://twitter.com/cspotweet/status/1578219762186092546?s=20&t=U9NfGBYxSvCFxCJ08xU83w

Sweet, now we get to find out how much of a province one person can burn down in 7 months.

oh, it won't take 7 months

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Lol a 53/47 split on the sixth ballot, just two points more than Kenney got. Gonna be a wild ride.

DrBox
Jul 3, 2004

Sombody call the doctor?

DrBox posted:

Alberta is fine. We have a lot of trucks and Chuds but after driving all over Ontario and Quebec this summer I can confirm that's the case everywhere.

I take it back. Alberta is not fine.

tagesschau
Sep 1, 2006
Guten Abend, meine Damen und Herren.

Albino Squirrel posted:

Sweet, now we get to find out how much of a province one person can burn down in 7 months.

The Ontario legislature just came back in August, so...check in in March?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

DrBox posted:

I take it back. Alberta is not fine.

I'm sorry friend, best of luck

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret
Smith said she's going to be sworn in as premier on Tuesday.

Not sure how that works from a procedural/legal standpoint...

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Kenney resigns, LGov appoints new premier.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I dislike how worldwide Torydom seems to be on a course away from conventional evil Tories like Harper and Johnson and Kenney and their ilk, to lunatic submorons like Truss, Smith and Polliver, to say nothing of the state of the GOP down south.

What snapped to make people say "eh, I'm sick of conventional immoral greed, give me some pure fuckin' insanity!"

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
😎❄️🌃🥤🧋🍹👌💯

PT6A posted:

I dislike how worldwide Torydom seems to be on a course away from conventional evil Tories like Harper and Johnson and Kenney and their ilk, to lunatic submorons like Truss, Smith and Polliver, to say nothing of the state of the GOP down south.

What snapped to make people say "eh, I'm sick of conventional immoral greed, give me some pure fuckin' insanity!"

The system stopped working for them like they were told it was supposed to

Pleads
Jun 9, 2005

pew pew pew


For some of them the system simply stopped working as poorly for others as they want it to.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

PT6A posted:

I dislike how worldwide Torydom seems to be on a course away from conventional evil Tories like Harper and Johnson and Kenney and their ilk, to lunatic submorons like Truss, Smith and Polliver, to say nothing of the state of the GOP down south.

What snapped to make people say "eh, I'm sick of conventional immoral greed, give me some pure fuckin' insanity!"

It's the same ideology just less and less constrained by the ever-deteriorating post-war liberal institutions.

mom and dad fight a lot
Sep 21, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 22 days!
Danielle Smith lmao

Hipster Occultist
Aug 16, 2008

He's an ancient, obscure god. You probably haven't heard of him.


mom and dad fight a lot posted:

Danielle Smith lmao

"Let's pick the one person even dumber and worse at their job than Jason Kenny, that'll show Ottawa!"

On the plus side, I don't see things getting much better for the PCs. Think we have a solid chance of the NDP winning the next election.

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

I stumbled ass-backwards into a comfortable, easy life for reasons beyond my comprehension and now I think I'm better than you for it.

mom and dad fight a lot posted:

Danielle Smith lmao

Chaser:

https://twitter.com/stephenharper/status/1578217915501150209

Jason Kenney was so great at being Premier he didn't even finish a full term!

Trapick
Apr 17, 2006

Another Bill posted:

Jason Kenney was so great at being Premier he didn't even finish a full term!
Gotta give it to him, he really crammed a lot of sucking into one term.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
Let’s all point and laugh at Brian Jean, a man so comically inept he has now been outwitted by Danielle Smith on multiple occasions.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Man they just played Smith’s victory speech on CBC and, yikes. That’s a lot of grievance and anti vax all wrapped up!

Kraftwerk
Aug 13, 2011
i do not have 10,000 bircoins, please stop asking

CTV has been posting some polls saying PP would win a slim minority government if an election were held today. The media really really wants a horse race or at least seems to be strongly in favour of voting blue no matter who.

Albino Squirrel
Apr 25, 2003

Miosis more like meiosis

Hipster Occultist posted:

"Let's pick the one person even dumber and worse at their job than Jason Kenny, that'll show Ottawa!"

On the plus side, I don't see things getting much better for the PCs. Think we have a solid chance of the NDP winning the next election.
She can gently caress up a lot of stuff in the next seven months. And I'm painfully aware of the precedent that "Donald Trump will be easier to run against."

Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Kraftwerk posted:

CTV has been posting some polls saying PP would win a slim minority government if an election were held today. The media really really wants a horse race or at least seems to be strongly in favour of voting blue no matter who.

Well conservatives are going to vote conservative no matter what. That's the game right now.

funny song about politics
Feb 11, 2002

Kraftwerk posted:

CTV has been posting some polls saying PP would win a slim minority government if an election were held today. The media really really wants a horse race or at least seems to be strongly in favour of voting blue no matter who.

The race is his to lose, I’m afraid. I don’t think Trudeau’s Liberals have another win in them. To the extent that COVID was a social disruption on the level of a war, it’s worth noting that wartime leaders in democracies are at higher risk of being tossed out after the war is over. This, combined with the inevitable itch to see change of any sort after several terms of the same government, and the growing reactionary sentiment that PP has attached himself to, suggests that we’ll probably have a conservative government next time around.

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

Kraftwerk posted:

CTV has been posting some polls saying PP would win a slim minority government if an election were held today. The media really really wants a horse race or at least seems to be strongly in favour of voting blue no matter who.

So we're fine then, new leaders always get a boost and if we're looking at slim governments then PP has no where to go but down.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

I would like it if the media would cover politics like it is something serious that affects how the country is run and not as much meta poo poo about how soandso is doing in the polls and how x strategy is going to work out for them and how much y misstep is likely to hurt their image.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




DrBox posted:

I take it back. Alberta is not fine.

This would almost be hilarious if it wasnt so depressing. Out of all the possible choices I feel like Smith has the potential to do the most harm in such a short timeframe.

sleep with the vicious
Apr 2, 2010

Furnaceface posted:

This would almost be hilarious if it wasnt so depressing. Out of all the possible choices I feel like Smith has the potential to do the most harm in such a short timeframe.

I don't understand the thinking that it will be a short timeline. I don't think the Albertans will switch to the NDP. People really hate the NDP out here.

Servetus
Apr 1, 2010

Kraftwerk posted:

CTV has been posting some polls saying PP would win a slim minority government if an election were held today. The media really really wants a horse race or at least seems to be strongly in favour of voting blue no matter who.

The thing is Pierre Poilievre minority government isn't a thing; who will their coalition partner be, formally or informally. Can he get enough Liberal MPs to betray their party to prop up his government through a confidence vote. Will the PPC have a surge of support and have enough to prop him up? Will the Bloc join him? If the answer to those questions is no than he has no path to maintaining power through a confidence vote if the other parties want him gone.

Stephen Harper was able to use the GG, the fact that he was the incumbent, a media that simply repeated CPC talking points, and Ignatieff's weakness to hold onto power in minority. PP has maybe one or two of those to help him.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

If the PP CPC wins a minority they won't need a coalition partner, the libs will either prop them up or just abstain while they sort out their next leader, and then trigger an election.

Servetus
Apr 1, 2010

PittTheElder posted:

If the PP CPC wins a minority they won't need a coalition partner, the libs will either prop them up or just abstain while they sort out their next leader, and then trigger an election.

Why would the Liberals back PP over their own leader, Justin or whoever follows him, when the incumbent gets first crack at forming a government? Do you seriously believe that is Justin Trudeau stands up in the house with enough Liberals and NDP MPs to form a government, that Liberal MPs will commit career suicide to crown Poilievre because there are more Conservative MPs than Liberal ones?

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

Patricia Jaggernauth resigned from Bell Media this week and filed a human rights complaint against them.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/patricia-jaggernauth-cp24-bell-discrimination-1.6608357

quote:

CP24 personality alleges 'systemic pattern' of discrimination in human rights claim against Bell Media

Bell Media says it takes allegations of discrimination ‘very seriously’

A well-known Toronto television personality has filed a human rights complaint against Bell Media, alleging "a systemic pattern" of racism, sexism and discrimination, adding that during her 11 years with the company, she was "treated as a token and a commodity."

In a complaint filed with the Canadian Human Rights Commission on Wednesday, Patricia Jaggernauth, a weather specialist, remote reporter and co-host for the Bell-owned news channel CP24, describes being repeatedly passed over for promotions and earning less than a living wage.

Jaggernauth says she watched as white colleagues, often newer ones, made it higher up the corporate ladder, while she wasn't even offered a contract — something she attributes to the fact that she is a racialized woman.

Part Guyanese and part Jamaican, Jaggernauth claims she was denied full-time stable employment and was instead forced to work weeks straight without a day off — an experience she says landed her in hospital with pneumonia because she felt she had no choice but to put work ahead of her health.

"I almost died doing what I loved because a freelancer can't say no. Every hour is bread, every hour is rent, every hour is that tank of gas," said Jaggernauth, who resigned from Bell Media last Tuesday.

In an email to CBC News, a Bell Media spokesperson said, "We do not comment on matters involving current or former staff members, but can confirm that Bell Media takes allegations of any potential discrimination very seriously, and are committed to a safe, inclusive, and respectful work environment where employees can thrive.

"If a matter is brought to our attention where an employee did not feel adequately supported, a process is triggered to review and address when required."

’Good enough to fill in but never ... to invest in'

In an exclusive interview with CBC News, Jaggernauth broke her silence about her time at Bell.

At first, she said, landing a job there felt like "a dream."

"I'm the girl living in metro housing that got out. I'm the one that was never supposed to succeed," she said. "I knew that I loved people, I loved community, but not ever on a contractual basis, always as a fill-in.

"How come I'm always good enough to fill in but never good enough to invest in?"

Jaggernauth says she was guaranteed just two days of work each week, and called at random to fill in for hosts who were off sick or away. With no certainty as to what her weeks would look like, she says she relied on the ability to take on other jobs to supplement her income — something she had done throughout her time there.

This past summer, management moved to limit that ability, blocking her from performing any paid activities outside of the company without management approval, according to her formal complaint. The rule was originally created in 2019 when Bell employees unionized, but was never enforced until this year, she says.

"Bell has done this while at the same time denying Ms. Jaggernauth promotions she has earned and is qualified for, and while refusing to provide her with full-time work," the complaint reads.

"At Bell, people of colour are cynically used as tokens," it adds.

Long days, short turnarounds led to breakdown: complaint

Jaggernauth's complaint comes on the heels of Bell Media's recent dismissal of celebrated chief anchor Lisa LaFlamme, who said she was "blindsided" when the company ended her contract at CTV National after more than 30 years as part of a "business decision." The move caused an uproar and in the days that followed, CTV News executive Michael Melling went on leave from the company.

In 2019, Jaggernauth says she contracted a virus and was hospitalized after "years of long days, short turnarounds, lengthy work stretches and being told to work for weeks upon weeks, non-stop."

After a three-month unpaid sick leave, she says she pleaded with Bell for more stability. What she was offered, she says, was a part-time contract formalizing her two days of work per week and giving her access to medical and dental benefits — with no additional shifts, no change to her wage and no ability to continue freelancing outside of Bell.

The complaint says the treatment Jaggernauth faced led her to suffer "a breakdown" during the most recent Bell Let's Talk Day while live on the air. In the segment, later posted to YouTube by CP24, five hosts open up about their mental health.

The last host to share is Jaggernauth, who speaks candidly about her personal and professional struggles, including the toll of working weekends for 11 years.

"I'm going to cry. Oh my God," says in the segment, tearing up. "In this industry what I've found is you get to be in the bright lights, you know, here you have this amazing career and people think you're a multi-millionaire, you're so lucky, but do you want to put my shoes on guys?"

Jaggernauth alleges none of her supervisors reached out at the time.

'I'm walking away and I will persevere'

It wasn't until two weeks later when she reached out to her manager for help that a therapist was offered, she says. Ineligible for therapy through a benefits plan, Jaggernauth says she was finally offered a Bell-recommended therapist, but ultimately says she didn't feel safe with the arrangement and declined the help.

The complaint says Jaggernauth had repeated conversations with management about her concerns at Bell — concerns she says were not taken seriously. Among those she spoke to were Melling and the company's president, "however her complaints were sidelined," according to the complaint.

Bell Media employees are part of a union, however given settlements between employers and unions are often kept secret through non-disclosure agreements, Jaggernauth says she felt a human rights complaint was the best way forward.

A complaint at the commission can not only result in payment of denied wages but also monetary damages for alleged discrimination. It can also force policy changes such as pay equity, says Jaggernauth's lawyer Kathryn Marshall of the firm Levitt Sheikh.

Jaggernauth says for her, the complaint goes beyond money — it's also about demanding change for women who look like her in the industry and for women overall.

As for her next steps, she says, "I came from hardship. I persevered. I started this career with hardship and I persevered, and I'm walking away and I will persevere."

Hipster Occultist
Aug 16, 2008

He's an ancient, obscure god. You probably haven't heard of him.


Albino Squirrel posted:

She can gently caress up a lot of stuff in the next seven months. And I'm painfully aware of the precedent that "Donald Trump will be easier to run against."

I mean you're not exactly wrong, but it's my hope that those fuckups translate into them losing the next election. Kenny was already well on the way to that, and I doubt Smith is going to turn things around.

Not much we can do about her tenure until then.

mom and dad fight a lot
Sep 21, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 22 days!

Mr. Apollo posted:

Patricia Jaggernauth resigned from Bell Media this week and filed a human rights complaint against them.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/patricia-jaggernauth-cp24-bell-discrimination-1.6608357

After the Lisa Laflamme debacle, Bell Media sure doesn't seem like a meritocracy.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
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Human civilization isn't a meritocracy despite claims otherwise

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


'good enough to fill in but not to invest in' p much sums up most corporate environments as any sort of minority and I am totally gonna borrow that line when my career field bullshit becomes too much to deal with.

I hope she gets more than she asks for because courts are unlikely to rule that every bell exec be put to the sword.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Servetus posted:

Why would the Liberals back PP over their own leader, Justin or whoever follows him, when the incumbent gets first crack at forming a government? Do you seriously believe that is Justin Trudeau stands up in the house with enough Liberals and NDP MPs to form a government, that Liberal MPs will commit career suicide to crown Poilievre because there are more Conservative MPs than Liberal ones?

I believe that if the CPC wins a minority the Libs will immediately jettison Trudeau as leader and start fighting amongst themselves to become his successor.

If Trudeau has enough support and personal drive to stay on in that situation then you won't see MPs abandoning the party (though that's a bit of a tautology), but I don't think he'd actually try to stay.

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Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

Servetus posted:

Why would the Liberals back PP over their own leader, Justin or whoever follows him, when the incumbent gets first crack at forming a government? Do you seriously believe that is Justin Trudeau stands up in the house with enough Liberals and NDP MPs to form a government, that Liberal MPs will commit career suicide to crown Poilievre because there are more Conservative MPs than Liberal ones?

While the incumbent formally gets first shot at forming a government, it feels like norms are firmly in favour of the electoral 'winner' getting first shot. Liberal support of a Conservative government would almost certainly look like it did under Harper, where the LPC simply doesn't team up with the NDP and, for the most part, the CPC legislates on the areas where there is ideological overlap between them and the LPC. You combine this with all the poo poo that the government gets to do that doesn't run through legislature, and there is a fair bit of damage a conservative minority government can do even if they are restrained by commons.

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