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xgalaxy posted:100% because I died to him and there was a big "HACKED" on the kill cam. hacking gengu never took him out of blade, u can only hack him b4 he uses it to keep him from using it for a few seconds, and ofc hacking him during blade keeps him from dashing which is helpful but it never made him put his sword away any faster
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Its super dumb that weeklies require you to do ALL of them while dailies only require you to do some, a much better system.
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Also re: miserable games A lot of people who play tank don't realize they are essentially twice as powerful as any other character on the map, and refuse to take space. Taking space has always been one of the concepts that is hardest for bad OW players to understand, and buffed tanks should make it in general easier. However, tanks that don't know their strengths and won't contest objectives or push at the right times will make your games miserable. Play a support, and give them the confidence they need to push the W key more than the S key.
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Honestly I'm having a lot more fun with this at launch than I was in the beta, I guess because so many people are playing that matches usually aren't always my rusty rear end getting steamrolled by a bunch of master rank players. The monetization sucks rear end but I just kind of don't give a poo poo about it so it doesn't matter. JQ is really entertaining to play as.
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Hashy posted:It sounds like you're talking about the same thing? No, they said playing Damage is miserable. Damage role got instantly stronger with the removal of second tanks and the addition of the role passive (which I don't think many people even know about). Even characters that got numbers nerfed feel better thanks to other changes. Soldier does less damage per shot, but spread and recoil feel much better. Flanking feels safer and more impactful, scrums aren't relegated to shield spam and shield breaking races, and slower ult generation in general favors consistent output. Literally every role feels better because the 1-2-2 lineup is a much better core design and balance than 2-2-2 ever was.
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It still sounds like you're talking about the same thing: dps can't stand around and pressure tanks as the default, they have to change their playstyle to be more flanky and dynamic, if they play like before they lose
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Having great fun as support, especially Brig. With the Orisa changes and one tank I'm able to get better Inspire uptime. I certainly miss the stun though! e: Eason the Fifth posted:The charge cancel for Rein is such an incredible game changer shameful. always commit Quotey fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Oct 9, 2022 |
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Jack Trades posted:Playing Support is loving miserable in OW2. So far my experience has been that a team needs at least one damage dealing support. Two is preferable. Having two support that barely dps like Ana & Mercy together just doesn't cut. This is bad for me as a Mercy main and making playing her more miserable than I remember.
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Haven't been able to play since the downtime as well as a ton of people with merged console accounts, and barely any acknowledgement and zero ETA. lol
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Lister posted:So far my experience has been that a team needs at least one damage dealing support. Two is preferable. Having two support that barely dps like Ana & Mercy together just doesn't cut. This is bad for me as a Mercy main and making playing her more miserable than I remember. You should pick mercy in situations where you can synergize with a DPS. Ashe, Echo, Pharah, Bastion are pretty good Mercy companions. edit: probably hog and sigma for tank synergy? They are both tanks that put out good damage, so an incidental boost could be the difference between getting kills and not getting kills BabyRyoga fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Oct 9, 2022 |
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BabyRyoga posted:You should pick mercy in situations where you can synergize with a DPS. Ashe, Echo, Pharah, Bastion are pretty good Mercy companions. Mercy is probably the hardest to kill in pure bullet hell mode. That plus res can be enough to win fights.
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Somehow the trash fire launch of this game has brought me back after many years of being away. That and the Kiriko short. I can't help but wonder what even makes this an Overwatch 2 because I just feel like I jumped back into the same exact game I was playing years ago. Not entirely a bad thing though, I've hopped back into familiar skills very quickly as a result. Hero Gauntlet is a really cool FFA Deathmatch concept, somehow won my first try at it. Good to see Mystery Hero is still a mainstay mode too since I'm ever so indecisive about who I wanna play.
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headcase posted:Mercy is probably the hardest to kill in pure bullet hell mode. That plus res can be enough to win fights. Her survivability and damage output depend upon your team composition. If you are just picking her because you want the res (also some synergy with Zarya bubble there), you probably aren't getting the most out of her. She does best in comps where she can mostly spend her time pocketing someone and increasing their output. That's why Pharmacy has always been a thing; it makes the mercy even harder to kill and increases the effectiveness of Pharah by a large margin. Echo is a similar story. Aside from that, any character where you can switch to boost to complement CDs is very nice. If you are picking her on teams that aren't making the most of boost or have heroes that put her in risky situations too often (like divey characters), she is a poor pick. She also doesn't do very much in terms of AoE healing most of the time. BabyRyoga fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Oct 9, 2022 |
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I haven't played all that much because I was working all week but today I got a good afternoon 4 hour session today to play comp. I'm already at BP level 25 and only have the Coin Line weekly to go. Seems like most people would be able to unlock the new character for free in the second or third week.
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DrBox posted:I haven't played all that much because I was working all week but today I got a good afternoon 4 hour session today to play comp. I'm already at BP level 25 and only have the Cion Line weekly to go. Seems like most people would be able to unlock the new character for free in the second or third week. If I had to estimate, it seems like a full unlock would take 25-30 hours over a long period of time (like contributing to it every week over the course of the whole season), or 35-40 over a short period (trying to unlock it all ASAP).
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Just got to say, Sojourn is incredibly fun. Reminds me of spamming plasma gun or machine gun in quake 3 and then switching to rail. Sweet sweet nostalgia.
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meta² posted:Just got to say, Sojourn is incredibly fun. Reminds me of spamming plasma gun or machine gun in quake 3 and then switching to rail. Sweet sweet nostalgia. I love her dash jump.
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Lister posted:So far my experience has been that a team needs at least one damage dealing support. Two is preferable. Having two support that barely dps like Ana & Mercy together just doesn't cut. This is bad for me as a Mercy main and making playing her more miserable than I remember. it's easy for ana to get a lot of value because of her nade you need to focus on getting value as mercy by peeling for the ana, trying to enable the dps to get flanks/different angles/high ground, and using your mobility to be unkillable. if your team is all immobile front-liners and they don't have a sniper it's probably hard to find value as mercy compared to another support, however.
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Hashy posted:It still sounds like you're talking about the same thing: dps can't stand around and pressure tanks as the default, they have to change their playstyle to be more flanky and dynamic, if they play like before they lose yeah, that's been my experience in most games so far. standing still and slugging it out front to back usually ends up coming down to raw numbers, and only flanks or creative angles to access the backline can end up swinging things the other way hell, even just getting up on a ledge and nailing a support with a kiriko kunai can force them to start backing off or divert attention away and give your team more punching power
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its so funny watching people say things like "go main healer" in chat when the game is 3 days old and presumably a lot of people don't knwo which healers are "main healers" because the game sure doesnt tell you
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to be fair, i think having at least 1 main healer is way easier for most tanks to play on the ladder most tank players aren't going to adjust their play to compensate for lower healing and just feed
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I am all for the change in the team dynamic by getting rid of a tank, but at least make an effort to decrease the wild pathings of the legacy maps (they clearly considered the new team sizes on the robot escort map). I appreciate the change from day to night on some, but with 1 less meat shield a rogue damage can kinda ruin the day. Also, I love how they still have the commentary kill count go up to "sextuple kill" even though it isn't possible in regular maps with the new team sizes (I guess theoretically it is, like a player is killed and a mercy resses them).
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i like baptiste. he's like a Soldier 76 with more healing.
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verbal enema posted:Being able to stop shooting and hook people during Roadhog's ult kicks rear end  I was playing on Lijiang Tower this morning and popped my ult on a Hanzo that was on top of the little building behind the point. He jumped behind it to duck for cover, but then I briefly stopped my ult to psych him out as to which way I would go around the corner. I resumed firing into him as I turned the corner, just in time to knock him off the edge for an environmental kill and threw off the aim of his ult at the same time. Feels good, man. Also, Rein feels so, so much better to play as now than in OW1. I charged into the enemy team on the last point on Junkertown, steering at crazy trajectories to squish a healer. Then I used my ult and absolutely went to town scattering and wrecking their team. 
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Also, Rein feels so, so much better to play as now than in OW1. I charged into the enemy team on the last point on Junkertown, steering at crazy trajectories to squish a healer. Then I used my ult and absolute went to town scattering and wrecking their team. gently caress yeah Rein feels great now. Charges are much more forgiving now and you can charge to reposition as much as you can to try and get a kill.
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comedyblissoption posted:to be fair, i think having at least 1 main healer is way easier for most tanks to play on the ladder sure but my point wasn't really whether or not a team needed a specific subclass of character, it's that many people aren't going to know what "main healer" means
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Countblanc posted:sure but my point wasn't really whether or not a team needed a specific subclass of character, it's that many people aren't going to know what "main healer" means I don't even know what main healer is. Mercy and Ana sure, but the rest? No idea. Is Bap? Lucio and Zen definitely not.
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Yeah, there's single target/aoe, and burst/steady throughput. "Main healer" is nebulous.
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I would consider it anyone who can give a reinhardt an okay amount of uptime assuming the heals actually land so ana/baptiste/moira mercy's healing on reinhardt actually sucks if she's the only one keeping him up idk what kiriko's healing per second looks like
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baptiste is pretty good if you have at least 2 other shootmans (any role) for your ult so you can get more value baptiste struggles if you have a dive-y or flying dps comp (e.g. genji/tracer/echo/pharah) b/c it's pretty hard to hit the slow-traveling heals and you don't have the mobility to keep up. I think keeping a solo dive tank (ball/d.va/winston/doomfist) up as baptiste from long range is workable if you can land the shots. baptiste is the hardest support to play I think b/c to optimize him you have to constantly be target switching between healing and shooting. the general guideline is shoot twice, heal once, loop.
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lucio, ana, zen and brig all pair well with baptiste. he works best with comps where the team plays more grouped up - so zarya, rein, jq, sigma and orisa as far as tanks go.
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Vermain posted:you get the sustained DPS of S76 with the anti-pharah/tracer tech of cowboy man's MB1 Not having really played much of either, is there a good reason to use one instead of the other? Does 76 do more damage over time with his sustained fire compared to Sojourn? E: the best way Blizz could improve Rein now would be to add the train sound effect to all of his skins instead of just the train conductor one. Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Oct 9, 2022 |
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Movin' on up, into Silver 1 
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Not having really played much of either, is there a good reason to use one instead of the other? Does 76 do more damage over time with his sustained fire compared to Sojourn? easier to land burst with his MB2, especially against fast targets like tracer, biotic field is excellent team utility, and tact visor is still a foolproof way to wipe backline if they're caught in the open and you time it right
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