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maffew buildings posted:The Air Force has a job where they will hand out towels at the gym and get the same benefits that everyone else gets and they won't be on a floating metal sexual harassment and mental abuse factory known as a USN ship
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Did someone say don't join the Navy, and if you do don't be a Nuke? Because you definitely shouldn't do either of those things. If you do become a Nuke, just fail out of Power School, and you'll be a MMAC in 8 years.
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Oct 10, 2022 01:51
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Go IT in the reserves. Or don’t join.
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Oct 10, 2022 01:53
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Just be an officer in the reserves. poo poo's great.
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Oct 10, 2022 01:54
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If you just have a high school education, you should not join the military, you should enter another field that offers full benefits, education, and upward mobility, such as:
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(but definitely don't go nuke, that part is for real)
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Oct 10, 2022 01:58
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Cerekk posted:If you just have a high school education, you should not join the military, you should enter another field that offers full benefits, education, and upward mobility, such as: NGL here but get hired on with the TSA. If you are just 18 it’s a pretty ok job all in all.
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She's only in my homeroom so I don't have the sort of relationship that I have with my classroom students, there's no way I could talk her out of enlisting. I just want to take away some pain if possible. I did tell her and everyone else within earshot to never ever go nuke and if you give it ten seconds' thought, a job where they have to give you a $50,000 bonus to sign on is probably not a good job to take.
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Stultus Maximus posted:She's only in my homeroom so I don't have the sort of relationship that I have with my classroom students, there's no way I could talk her out of enlisting. I just want to take away some pain if possible. Tell her if she absolutely positively has to enlist for some reason, go air force.
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Oct 10, 2022 02:21
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For real, my crew's like 75% Air Force vets and those dudes all loved their jobs, half are in the reserves, and most left just so they could spend more time with their families. There's also quite a few ex-nukes, and we all have horrible brain problems from the time we were in.
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Cerekk posted:If you just have a high school education, you should not join the military, you should enter another field that offers full benefits, education, and upward mobility, such as: Gov shipyard for sure. Just gotta stay off the dope.
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Oct 10, 2022 03:26
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Being an officer especially in the reserves seems like a good scam
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Crab Dad posted:Gov shipyard for sure. Just gotta stay off the dope. This is kind of legitimately true. I've known a bunch of yard birds that worked for like 14 bucks an hour on cable teams eventually make their way to system engineer jobs with lockmart etc
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enlisting in the Navy can lead to unexpected and terminal brain breakage, while in the Air Force handing out towels at the gym you hand out towels at a gym and get all the same benefits. like seriously I know multiple people with educations in the Seabees that refuse to commission or look at going to a different service because they don't want to push paper or be one of those people who doesn't do hard work
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If Nuke does sound appealing to her, tell her there's a lot of community tech schools around the country near nuclear plants that offer a 2 year associates that can help her get into a commercial plant. A degree like nuclear engineering technology. Can get the same job making $50+ an hour in fewer years than a navy nuke contract is. And without the terminal brain breakage. Had I known that was an option when I was younger, I never would have joined the navy.
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I dunno why people keep bringing up nuke lol the kid wants to go in as an AT (aviation electronics tech) lol AT was pretty cool tbh
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MonkeyFit posted:If Nuke does sound appealing to her, tell her there's a lot of community tech schools around the country near nuclear plants that offer a 2 year associates that can help her get into a commercial plant. A degree like nuclear engineering technology. Can get the same job making $50+ an hour in fewer years than a navy nuke contract is. And without the terminal brain breakage. Had I known that was an option when I was younger, I never would have joined the navy. DVC just got extended another 5 years and there's still no better place to be. I dont think they even require a nuclear background over just a general engineering one. LLNL is also looking for people and they do all the cool stuff. They need field engineers for their missile testing going out and prepping the drone rafts to shoot missiles at but that requires a lot of school, engineering, and shipboard experience. So any engineers should check it out.
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PneumonicBook posted:This is kind of legitimately true. I've known a bunch of yard birds that worked for like 14 bucks an hour on cable teams eventually make their way to system engineer jobs with lockmart etc Yeah, there's a few programs offered here for tool runners starting in high school. loving secret security clearance and a job while going to school? lovely part is they dont seem to be able to fully staff it because of weed use in the region. I'm hoping I can get my kids in it. Sucks they will have to work around a bunch of sailors in the yards but oh well it could be worse they could be those sailors.
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MarcusSA posted:I dunno why people keep bringing up nuke lol the kid wants to go in as an AT (aviation electronics tech) lol I wanted to be an OS and look at radars all day but they kept mentioning re-up bonuses and I kind of lost track of what happened and wound up a nuke MM. I'm just saying, maybe some repetition of the warning would do some good.
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Never, ever, ever go Nuke. AT seemed pretty chill. I could probably do without the FOD walkdowns, but those are at least practical.
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SquirrelyPSU posted:Never, ever, ever go Nuke. Go I level and you never see the deck  I think I did exactly one FOD walk down and that was a base wide one in coronando lol
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Maybe a list of the chillest ratings would be helpful. I was a Coner ET and it was ok.
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I mean ideally you'd get some kind of technical rate right? Like FC/ET/IC/IT, basically combat systems in general. It's easy to translate the skills you get in those rates to civ side, you generally have a bunch of spaces to hide in, in general you aren't doing a ton of manual labor etc. I don't know poo poo about aviation rates, maybe AT is kind of the equivalent. At least she isn't going AO.
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ABE is the best rate ever with tons of opportunities outside the Navy. She’d love it!
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Submarine ratings definitive chillness list: Tier 1: LSS Tier 2: FT, STS, ETV (non-Strat), ITS(EW) Tier 3: ITS(Comms), ETV (Strat), CSS Tier 4: TM, YNS Tier 5: MT, MMA ... ... ... Tier ZZZ: ETN, EMN, MMN
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PneumonicBook posted:I mean ideally you'd get some kind of technical rate right? Like FC/ET/IC/IT, basically combat systems in general. It's easy to translate the skills you get in those rates to civ side, you generally have a bunch of spaces to hide in, in general you aren't doing a ton of manual labor etc. AT is kinda the aviation version of ET.
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Anita Dickinme posted:ABE is the best rate ever with tons of opportunities outside the Navy. She’d love it! 
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Go AC, then federal civ. Enjoy special, early retirement.
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Go Coast Guard and deal with way less bulshit entirely while getting the same benefits.
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All the same benefits except pay, 12+ year E4s and 5s are common.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Hey guys, some enlisting advice please. If she does go Tron, P-8 squadrons arn't a bad gig, our planes have a lot of avionics and other boxes they have to work on and at least at my squadron part of our unofficial indoc for NFOs was telling them to take care of their sailors, but especially be good to the trons since we relied on them for a crap ton of maintenance fixes. Theres also per-diem and not being on a boat. Alternatively... ded posted:Tell her if she absolutely positively has to enlist for some reason, go air force.
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Elviscat posted:All the same benefits except pay, 12+ year E4s and 5s are common. Not really 4s but there are 5s who don't study for poo poo. Aviation side 5s are a lot more common. At my station out of the 25 people we have 4 1st's at 6 to 12 all the 2nds but 2 are under 8 and out of those 2 ones getting out to go be a teacher and the other has been consistent gently caress up. All the 4s are first enlistment guys and in 19 years in ove never seen someone finish their first enlistment as a 4 who actually opened a book instead of a bottle. poo poo my AEPO is at 11 and will probably pick up an anchor before he leaves the unit. Almost 10 of those people are day workers who go home just about every night and stand cellphone duty. poo poo in the winter we work 4 days a week. A lot of the people you see kicking around in the CG in the e5 spot for a long time are there because that's where they want to be. E5 in the CG away from sector jobs is a pretty sweet spot. You get to do cool poo poo and you are generally running the show. Honestly every time I've actually studied for advancement hard I've made it. Most of the other times I just hosed around and enjoyed my time off while doing light reading. Edit: fixed some numbers and spelling and poo poo Melthir fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Oct 13, 2022 |
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https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2022/10/12/another-aircraft-carrier-is-grappling-with-water-issues/ Oh look. What a surprise.
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MonkeyFit posted:https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2022/10/12/another-aircraft-carrier-is-grappling-with-water-issues/ From the article: “But she also notes that, during the address, she and the rest of the bridge are looking at a cloudy bottle of water that “personally tastes like saltwater to me.”” Why is she she (the CO of all people??) taste testing it and do they not have a basic water quality testing lab on a goddamn aircraft carrier?
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pmchem posted:From the article: “But she also notes that, during the address, she and the rest of the bridge are looking at a cloudy bottle of water that “personally tastes like saltwater to me.”” That’s actually the most impressive part of the article.
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Crab Dad posted:That’s actually the most impressive part of the article. Obama didn’t drink Flint water, so the CO is great or stupid as gently caress.
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Crab Dad posted:That’s actually the most impressive part of the article. I get the solidarity with the crew I guess, but, if there was bad stuff in there and the Lincoln needed to do something it seems like a bad idea to have the CO incapacitated??
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pmchem posted:I get the solidarity with the crew I guess, but, if there was bad stuff in there and the Lincoln needed to do something it seems like a bad idea to have the CO incapacitated?? It’s pierside. Ok I guess make cmc drink it instead.
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