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Tiny Timbs posted:Why would you target a hundred irreplaceable cruise missiles at Ukrainian coffee shops when your adversary is busily popping your command centers and ammunition dumps? Who loving knows with this poo poo I wonder if it indicates increasing confidence in the ability to replace cruise missiles through sanction evasion or whatever but also I'm 100% sure it's a moronic tantrum.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:We know General Motors is represented there from the footage shot from humvees. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_DnRn9hyFU
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highme posted:https://twitter.com/uaweapons/status/1579433829789765632?s=46&t=6gBaZ1jRx3HFY-we7wipxQ My Russian is super rusty, but I think I heard "Let's go you loving bitch!"
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highme posted:https://twitter.com/uaweapons/status/1579433829789765632?s=46&t=6gBaZ1jRx3HFY-we7wipxQ owns sounds like someone ripping off a pkm just to see if it works as well.
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highme posted:https://twitter.com/uaweapons/status/1579433829789765632?s=46&t=6gBaZ1jRx3HFY-we7wipxQ Fuckin nice. Love to see it.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:You could probably get russian soldiers to kill their chains of command if you threw in a handful of dryers and microwaves to sweeten the pot. 
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Oct 10, 2022 16:45
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No he only works on camera people.
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CommieGIR posted:If Poland just stacks enough washing machines at the border, any attack will fall apart quickly. Curse this global appliance shortage!
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First prize is a new Lada. Second place gets a set of toilet bowls. Third place is a Javllin'.
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shame on an IGA posted:First prize is a new Lada. Booby prizeis something in .45LC Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Oct 10, 2022 |
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Oct 10, 2022 17:28
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Man Russia sure did a good job of blowing up all those parks.
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Oct 10, 2022 18:39
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This is grim and bad poo poo, but very very important. This is taken from right before a body is rolled into a pit (the one that garbage people are claiming to be murdered by Ukrainians). You can see a man blindfolded being lead by Russian soldiers. He’s dumped into the pit in the widely seen clip. The Russians are just re-creating the SS’ mobile killing squads.code: It’s important and news worthy though. Also I’m going to say this, anyone, regardless of which forum it’s posted in, claims these are Ukrainians killed by Ukrainians should get a ban.
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Oct 10, 2022 20:10
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I know and the fact the Russians (along with its sycophants) are blaming the Ukrainians, is vile. For something less bleak (well not for Russia) I give you Russian Engineering. https://twitter.com/golub/status/1579552541138096128?s=46&t=Kl7SMi_ryg2oMhHuixwrpQ
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"we already have trains up and running again...." ".....on a different part of the track"
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Tiny Timbs posted:Why would you target a hundred irreplaceable cruise missiles at Ukrainian coffee shops when your adversary is busily popping your command centers and ammunition dumps? Who loving knows with this poo poo I feel like the Blitz of London is a good comparator.
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Another war on the rocks: https://warontherocks.com/2022/10/what-will-be-ukraines-pre-winter-gains/
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Lead out in cuffs posted:I feel like the Blitz of London is a good comparator. The Blitz was a systematic bombing campaign that killed over 40,000 civilians and at one point went unceasing for nearly two months. Even when Russia attempts a terror bombing they’re pathetic.
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When the king of Arms Control says it's time for ATACMS....there are no more excuses. https://twitter.com/ArmsControlWonk/status/1579487935203725313?s=20&t=2ynI0-Yh9_EtVUB-ugzEdg
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Tiny Timbs posted:The Blitz was a systematic bombing campaign that killed over 40,000 civilians and at one point went unceasing for nearly two months. Even when Russia attempts a terror bombing they’re pathetic. The tonnage of explosives dropped in a single night of the blitz is probably greater than the total weight of warheads in Russia’s missile stocks.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:*GE enters the room* You joke, but most of GE's European offices are in Poland. A lot of the power generation and healthcare stuff was manufactured in Ukraine and moved to Poland for final assembly; when the war kicked off, a huge, huge, huge chunk of their Russian office fled west and is now set up in Poland and France.
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gay picnic defence posted:The tonnage of explosives dropped in a single night of the blitz is probably greater than the total weight of warheads in Russia’s missile stocks. blitz killed 40,000 and destroyed or damaged 2 million homes over 8 months. There aren't great numbers on civilians killed, but I'd be very surprised if the number of dead civilians from Russian shelling, bombing and missile strikes is not significantly above that. Similarly Russia has displaced ~12 million people in Ukraine. As of a 1-2 months ago Ukraine was saying 140,000 destroyed or damaged residential buildings leaving 3.5million homeless. Given the scale of observable destruction and particularly russia's targeting of apartment buildings and use of indiscriminate weapons on residential areas, 140,000 destroyed buildings is not at all implausible. Particularly in the last few months, pretty much every village and town Ukraine repatriates is very heavily damaged. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-citizens-seeking-war-reparations-face-uphill-struggle-2022-09-07/ https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1554396189239418881 I think people heavily underestimate the incredible amount of munitions Russia has used against Ukraine. the only reason they don't use more missiles and bombs is that their military is not doctrinally setup around heavy use of bombers and high end missilery and the supply simply is not that high of missiles and ukraine's air defenses are too intact for heavy bombers. Daily expenditure of mlrs and artillery though hit extremely high levels by any standard back before Ukraine had the capacity to aggressively target russian munition stockpiles.
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Ukraine was pushed back in the Donbass simply because Russia leveled everything with artillery and there was nothing to hold.
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https://twitter.com/spook_info/status/1579567910942838784?s=46&t=MXnw5IQfLv4ARFIDgof7HA I like to think if anyone in the US military proposed a strike like this a JAG would hit them with a wrench.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:like to think if anyone in the US military proposed a strike like this a JAG would hit them with a wrench. If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a war crimes tribunal.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:I feel like the Blitz of London is a good comparator. nah more like the 1944-45 yeeting wildly inaccurate V1s into the void after the war was already lost
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shame on an IGA posted:nah more like the 1944-45 yeeting wildly inaccurate V1s into the void after the war was already lost At least V-1s were designed for land attack. The same can't be said of AS-4s. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Oct 11, 2022 |
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I'm looking forward to the Russians accidentally deploying their handful of T-14 Armata - which will then likely get shredded by small arms fire as its all going to be fibre-glass and fairing compound.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:blitz killed 40,000 and destroyed or damaged 2 million homes over 8 months. There aren't great numbers on civilians killed, but I'd be very surprised if the number of dead civilians from Russian shelling, bombing and missile strikes is not significantly above that. Similarly Russia has displaced ~12 million people in Ukraine. As of a 1-2 months ago Ukraine was saying 140,000 destroyed or damaged residential buildings leaving 3.5million homeless. Given the scale of observable destruction and particularly russia's targeting of apartment buildings and use of indiscriminate weapons on residential areas, 140,000 destroyed buildings is not at all implausible. Particularly in the last few months, pretty much every village and town Ukraine repatriates is very heavily damaged. Oh, the places within range of Russia's artillery are getting shredded, absolutely. I was more referring to Russia's capacity to strike deep into Ukraine. Compared to the blitz anywhere away from the front lines is going to be relatively unscathed.
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Are we really waxing rhapsodic over the great city leveling bomber fleets of yore? “Back in my day you knew you were in a war when it took three hours for all the bombs to stop falling”
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Murgos posted:Are we really waxing rhapsodic over the great city leveling bomber fleets of yore? Talking about how ineffectual and disorganized the terror campaign is is not actually a request for Russia to step it up
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Marshal Prolapse posted:https://twitter.com/spook_info/status/1579567910942838784?s=46&t=MXnw5IQfLv4ARFIDgof7HA Forgot about all those afghani weddings, eh?
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My Spirit Otter posted:Forgot about all those afghani weddings, eh? Plus that AC-130 pounding a doctors without borders hospital for a few hours.
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Flikken posted:Plus that AC-130 pounding a doctors without borders hospital for a few hours. Wasn't that found to be just straight up miscommunication between the JTAC and the air crew, vs. some kind of pre-authorized strike?
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psydude posted:Wasn't that found to be just straight up miscommunication between the JTAC and the air crew, vs. some kind of pre-authorized strike? No, it was negligent murder. They targeted the building based on second hand reports with no confirmation, and didn't check a list of known medical buildings not to target before lighting up the hospital. Their communication and navigation equipment that would have let them confirm their target was down, but they fired 200+ shells into the building anyway. And they didn't stop even when the hospital personnel were begging them to because again, they decided to engage without working communications. The building was also marked as a hospital, the crew chose to ignore that or just weren't really looking. The military then repeatedly lied about the events until third parties called them out for it and the media attention forced an investigation - an (internal only) investigation in which 16 people got an administrative punishment and nothing else.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:No, it was negligent murder. They targeted the building based on second hand reports with no confirmation, and didn't check a list of known medical buildings not to target before lighting up the hospital. Their communication and navigation equipment that would have let them confirm their target was down, but they fired 200+ shells into the building anyway. And they didn't stop even when the hospital personnel were begging them to because again, they decided to engage without working communications. The building was also marked as a hospital, the crew chose to ignore that or just weren't really looking. The military then repeatedly lied about the events until third parties called them out for it and the media attention forced an investigation - an (internal only) investigation in which 16 people got an administrative punishment and nothing else. Classic GWOT right there. But not as classic as droning an aid worker and a family of 10 to bring things to a close.
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My Spirit Otter posted:Forgot about all those afghani weddings, eh? True, but when we drop off a wedding present or a donation to MSF, it's due to incompetence and negligence vs intentional or malice. I mean in the end, it's still the same outcome, but it's not the intentional goal. I know big consolation that hey we didn't mean to pink mist your wedding on purpose. But there is something just infinitely worse then planning to kill civilians as an operation goal, in the post WWII era. https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1579846373054509058?s=20&t=UBFL9ztZ9d-Pf0YoflfYow Haha get hosed KSA and a big shoutout to my POS brother in law who works for them! Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Oct 11, 2022 |
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:No, it was negligent murder. They targeted the building based on second hand reports with no confirmation, and didn't check a list of known medical buildings not to target before lighting up the hospital. Their communication and navigation equipment that would have let them confirm their target was down, but they fired 200+ shells into the building anyway. And they didn't stop even when the hospital personnel were begging them to because again, they decided to engage without working communications. The building was also marked as a hospital, the crew chose to ignore that or just weren't really looking. The military then repeatedly lied about the events until third parties called them out for it and the media attention forced an investigation - an (internal only) investigation in which 16 people got an administrative punishment and nothing else. Meanwhile Doctors Without Borders stopped sharing their facilities' coordinates in Syria after they noticed that these were being deliberately striked by Syria and Russian allies shortly after publishing them. So when in a conflict zone, avoid Doctors Without Borders hospitals.
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