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Noblesse Obliged posted:So what is the correct way for us to observe a day off work? Well you could start by not minimizing our horrific colonial legacy and ongoing genocide imo
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Oct 11, 2022 16:04
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I spend the day with family and friends. Usually eating way too much.
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Oct 11, 2022 16:08
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Another Bill posted:No no Thanksgiving is just a fall harvest festival you see. Whose land was the bounty harvested from? It was empty until we ploughed and seeded it. No one is arguing against that though. I’d also add that it’s an inherently colonialist holiday because it’s a European tradition, just like Christmas and Easter.
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Oct 11, 2022 16:21
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Noblesse Obliged posted:So what is the correct way for us to observe a day off work? Self-flagellation.
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Oct 11, 2022 16:28
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McGavin posted:Self-flagellation. My muscles clenched so hard while sneezing that day it felt like someone put my balls into a vice for 30 seconds, is that close enough
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Oct 11, 2022 17:11
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TheKingofSprings posted:My muscles clenched so hard while sneezing that day it felt like someone put my balls into a vice for 30 seconds, is that close enough Only if you felt extremely ashamed while doing it.
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Oct 11, 2022 17:44
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Starks posted:No one is arguing against that though. I’d also add that it’s an inherently colonialist holiday because it’s a European tradition, just like Christmas and Easter. Really no one is arguing that? Because all I said was that there's a disconnect between land acknowledgements and celebrating thanksgiving and most of the thread got really defensive.
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Oct 11, 2022 17:54
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Another Bill posted:Really no one is arguing that? Because all I said was that there's a disconnect between land acknowledgements and celebrating thanksgiving and most of the thread got really defensive. You're making a sweeping, absolute statement, ex cathedra, on behalf of people you don't get to speak on behalf of. Shall I go tell my Indigenous partner that she's wrong for celebrating Thanksgiving?
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Oct 11, 2022 18:24
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Why can't we just enjoy one holiday that's not built on religious trappings or oppression (except for turkeys) and where the central message is just get your family and friends together to enjoy good company and good food. Harvest celebrations are not a specifically western or European thing. If you want to say the problem is that we are celebrating in stolen land, then that's not really an issue with the holiday, but with the location. At that point birthday parties are colonialist celebration.
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Oct 11, 2022 18:32
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So Canadian thanksgiving is a holiday adapted or copied from the american thanksgiving, which is absolutely a celebration of colonialism and settlers. But even though in Canada we live next door, call it the same name, celebrate the same way (cooking a Turkey) and use the same iconography we're saying it's not a colonial / settler holiday because [vague good feeling reasons]. Am I getting it right, Canpol?
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Oct 11, 2022 19:07
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That's Canadian culture in a nutshell Another Bill.
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Oct 11, 2022 19:11
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Do turkeys and gourds really have to be a symbol of oppression
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Oct 11, 2022 19:11
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Pretty sure biosterous and I got the holiday theology figured out. On Canadian thanksgiving, we put our best puckins out, and baby jesus comes down from heaven and kisses them at night, blessing us with pumpkin spice. And it makes your wheat sheaves grow big and strong, in every manner. And then when baby jesus goes back up to heaven, the spooky skeltons come out of the ground, and the zombies all celebrate the return of the OG zombie. Christ, it's like you people have never been to church.
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Oct 11, 2022 19:14
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Another Bill posted:So Canadian thanksgiving is a holiday adapted or copied from the american thanksgiving, which is absolutely a celebration of colonialism and settlers. They adopted ours but otherwise yeah The trappings of a colonialist culture (ours) are inherently colonialist, sorry if that's upsetting to some people. It's like complaining the poo poo you shake out of a bag of oreos has pieces of oreos in it
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Oct 11, 2022 19:18
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Another Bill posted:So Canadian thanksgiving is a holiday adapted or copied from the american thanksgiving, which is absolutely a celebration of colonialism and settlers. Happy Columbus Day everybody
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Oct 11, 2022 19:22
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Can anyone here relate a Canadian Thanksgiving story from any Canadian Thanksgiving they've taken part in that has anything to do with colonialism? Are there Thanksgiving parades or something? My childhood was very secular, I'm wondering if I missed out on any of the good colonialism bits.
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Oct 11, 2022 19:23
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flakeloaf posted:They adopted ours but otherwise yeah Are the oreos themselves colonialist?
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Oct 11, 2022 19:26
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Another Bill posted:So Canadian thanksgiving is a holiday adapted or copied from the american thanksgiving, which is absolutely a celebration of colonialism and settlers. Right, so, you do want me to tell my Indigenous partner, and her family, that they're wrong for celebrating Thanksgiving. I'll let them know that you're very disappointed they haven't decolonized their minds, and are glorifying imperialistic settlers by, lets see, celebrating family, love, and the massive strides forward that Indigenous-Crown relations have made.
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Oct 11, 2022 19:28
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Mention how their Christianity is wrong while you're at it. (The joke is that they make their own peace with the imposition of our traditions, and the form it takes is none of anyone else's loving business) flakeloaf fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Oct 11, 2022 |
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Oct 11, 2022 19:30
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I like to be prepared so can someone please tell me if I'm allowed to enjoy Halloween or is this also white supremacy? Cute kids in costumes are colonizing my front door and taking candy.
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Oct 11, 2022 19:34
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Somebody please explain to me the ethical ramifications of eating a bag of Skittles I am losing my mind
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Oct 11, 2022 19:35
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TheKingofSprings posted:Somebody please explain to me the ethical ramifications of eating a bag of Skittles I am losing my mind Only allowed to taste the rainbow during Pride month, sorry.
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Oct 11, 2022 19:40
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Happy Columbus Day everybody Oh man, I love Columbo Day, even if he is a cop. DrBox posted:I like to be prepared so can someone please tell me if I'm allowed to enjoy Halloween or is this also white supremacy? Cute kids in costumes are colonizing my front door and taking candy. Buddy, if you feel anything other than crushing guilt 24/7 you aren't
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Oct 11, 2022 19:41
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TheKingofSprings posted:Somebody please explain to me the ethical ramifications of eating a bag of Skittles I am losing my mind They all taste the same, and as such, are emblematic of Canadian "cuisine"
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Oct 11, 2022 19:55
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mojo1701a posted:Only allowed to taste the rainbow during Pride month, sorry. Yeah but then the all white skittles are problematic too!
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Oct 11, 2022 19:59
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What about Coffee Crisp.
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Oct 11, 2022 20:05
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Assuming the Wikipedia page is to be believed, it seems like American and Canadian Thanksgiving coevolved, with American Thanksgiving having a longer informal history but being codified later than Canadian Thanksgiving. I don't recall there being much of a pilgrim/pioneer/colonization focus to the Canadian version unless you go to Black Creek Pioneer Village or Fort York or something and specifically ask for it. Otherwise it's a fairly generic harvest festival. e: to quote specific bits: quote:In 1859, the government of the Provinces of Canada declared a Thanksgiving Day in which "all Canadians [were asked] to spend the holiday in 'public and solemn' recognition of God's mercies." The first official Canadian Thanksgiving occurred on April 15, 1872, when the nation was celebrating the Prince of Wales' recovery from a serious illness. On 9 October 1879, Canada's Governor General, the Marquis of Lorne, declared November 6 as "a day of General Thanksgiving to Almighty God for the bountiful harvest with which Canada has been blessed." The Canadian Parliament on 31 January 1957 applied the same language in its proclamation for the modern holiday: "A Day of General Thanksgiving to Almighty God for the bountiful harvest with which Canada has been blessed—to be observed on the second Monday in October." The godly/royal aspects seem to have toned down since then. Precambrian Video Games fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Oct 11, 2022 |
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Oct 11, 2022 20:08
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Bleck posted:What about Coffee Crisp. "Makes a nice, light snack" implies the existence of unpleasant, heavy snacks.
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Oct 11, 2022 20:10
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If we're arguing about Thanksgiving then I'm going to contribute and definitively state that if your turkey doesn't have Newfoundland savoury on it then it is bland and tasteless, change my mind.
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Oct 11, 2022 20:13
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TheCenturion posted:Right, so, you do want me to tell my Indigenous partner, and her family, that they're wrong for celebrating Thanksgiving. I'll let them know that you're very disappointed they haven't decolonized their minds, and are glorifying imperialistic settlers by, lets see, celebrating family, love, and the massive strides forward that Indigenous-Crown relations have made. I definitely think you should tell your partner you're using her heritage as some kind of poker chip to win an argument online. Report back and let us know how that goes.
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Oct 11, 2022 21:29
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Arguing About Thanksgiving
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Oct 11, 2022 21:51
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McGavin posted:Self-flagellation. I’m reading this thread aren’t I?
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Oct 11, 2022 22:05
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eXXon posted:I give thanks every day that my hard tack is free of weevils. Luxury
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Oct 11, 2022 22:10
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What's really problematic is that shepherd's pie is called Chinese pie in Quebec.
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Oct 11, 2022 22:11
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McGavin posted:What's really problematic is that shepherd's pie is called Chinese pie in Quebec. English Canada isn't ready for this kind of truth. e: I know, because I workshopped it at a few dinner parties. People just want to hear about poutine and microbrews.
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Oct 11, 2022 22:19
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eXXon posted:I give thanks every day that my hard tack is free of weevils. Alternatively, one must always choose the lesser of two weevils.
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Oct 11, 2022 22:46
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infernal machines posted:Oh man, I love Columbo Day, even if he is a cop. I prefer Coulomb Day, I get a real charge out of it. Shocking, I know.
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Oct 11, 2022 22:56
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mojo1701a posted:"Makes a nice, light snack" implies the existence of unpleasant, heavy snacks. See also: Eat More
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Oct 11, 2022 22:56
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Lassitude posted:Alternatively, one must always chews the lesser of two weevils. You were almost there.
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Oct 11, 2022 22:59
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Danielle Smith says unvaccinated people have suffered greater discrimination than those based on race, gender, sexuality and other. https://twitter.com/cspotweet/status/1579941835551952896?s=20&t=6j41e8oAv6KTjHN_kOuhsw I think that English needs a word that denotes "sobbing and laughing simultaneously". German's gotta have one, right? Edit: video for the masochists https://twitter.com/cspotweet/status/1579946052647780352?s=20&t=OfCmrXLwVSo3jwWs751Ekg Albino Squirrel fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Oct 11, 2022 |
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