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That DICK! posted:otto's kind of gotten the short end of the character motivation stick i think. they just make him do whatever moves the scene forward his motivation is pretty clear I think, he just wants to get his blood on the throne. That doesn't mean he has to -like- his grandchildren or think they are anything but idiots and if his blood is a complete fking idiot well, that's why he's hand of the king
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Farg posted:it was super-dee-duper obvious that she was being nice to dyana and spared her and gave her a big comedy sack of gold with a big dollar sign on it to hush up and go away. C'mon now 
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Oct 12, 2022 14:53
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there will be a flashback scene next episode where she drives her to the airport and buys her a one way ticket to Hawaii and gives her a tropical drink as she boards the plane and dyana will look into the camera and say "thank you for sparing my life, as despite the gulf in our social standings you recognize that as women we are both constrained and harmed by the social norms of our society" and then people will go "what if the plane was sabotaged so it would crash over the pacific"
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Oct 12, 2022 14:59
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The teddy bear on the plane ignites for no visible reason. It was dragon fire. 
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Oct 12, 2022 15:08
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Rappaport posted:The teddy bear on the plane ignites for no visible reason. It was dragon fire.
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Oct 12, 2022 15:17
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I don’t know...it still seems like a liability to have some peasant show up in Braavos with a huge sack of gold, telling stories about King’s Landing... I really read that scene as Alicent has become the rutheless Machiavellian her father wanted her to be and love that it can be interpreted both ways and will be kind of sad if they take this moment out of Schrödinger’s box.
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Oct 12, 2022 16:07
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It's at odds with the rest of the episode where she is genuinely outraged at Aegon for doing it and then making amends with Rhaenyra at Viserys's last supper. The whole episode is a Alicent redemption arc and it doesn't make any sense if she starts it by unnecessarily murdering a serving girl
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Oct 12, 2022 16:13
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I read that as outrage at Aegon forcing her to murder innocent rape victims with zero thought (or even knowledge) about the consequences of his own actions. I just don't get her reaction to "where is Dyana" if Dyana is living it up in Cabo Wabo. Why disown her son, to his face in front of his wife-sister, if all she had to do was throw some cash at a wench and give her some tea? That seems more like a reaction akin to "Dyana is living very peacefully at a farm in upstate New York..."
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Oct 12, 2022 16:43
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I checked the Dyana actress' insta and she's still alive
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Oct 12, 2022 16:49
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Yeah but what color was the bag of gold, cuz if it was green, she's definitely dead.
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Oct 12, 2022 16:56
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I think people are still carrying baggage from GoT and seeing the tropes from that show in this one. Alicent is not Cersei. As of the 8 episodes we've seen right now there is no indication that Alicent is a murderer. On the contrary, she seems to be actively avoiding murdering people at every turn. She was hanging out with Larys all the time until he pulled his, "I did murder for you." at which point we've been shown on screen that she won't even meet his gaze, nor is she hanging out with him after that. I actually kind of feel like Alicent right now where there is something very obvious being shown to me and yet many people seem to be blind to it. Alicent is a woman that was forced to marry and lay with a diseased old dude who she dutifully cared for and stayed loyal to. She understands what happened to that serving girl. She feels empathy. She tells her to not talk about it, pays her off and then goes to kick the poo poo out of her son. She hugs her daughter because it's a mixture of emotion between having to explain that Aegon raped (again?), and the empathy she feels for her daughter, another young woman trapped in this system. EDIT: Now that I think about it, Rhaenyra has a larger body count than Alicent since she and Daemon actually killed that random guard to fake her husband's death. Anonymous Zebra fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Oct 12, 2022 |
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Oct 12, 2022 16:57
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So is now a good time to revisit the fact that the director of the episode said the tea was for abortion and that she was still alive, or are the dumbest tv watchers in history still insisting she was forced to say that by the Jewish cabal running Hollywood
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Oct 12, 2022 17:02
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I’m on Team Plan B but death of the author and everything, you know.
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If you want to believe Alicent is a werewolf because we’ve never seen her and a full moon in the same shot that’s fine, but don’t march into the thread and try to own people who suggest the evidence may not support this ala Farg posted:there will be a flashback scene next episode where she drives her to the airport and buys her a one way ticket to Hawaii and gives her a tropical drink as she boards the plane and dyana will look into the camera and say "thank you for sparing my life, as despite the gulf in our social standings you recognize that as women we are both constrained and harmed by the social norms of our society" and then people will go "what if the plane was sabotaged so it would crash over the pacific"
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Oct 12, 2022 17:11
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That DICK! posted:So is now a good time to revisit the fact that the director of the episode said the tea was for abortion and that she was still alive, or are the dumbest tv watchers in history still insisting she was forced to say that by the Jewish cabal running Hollywood I don’t know, someone might get angry at you for pointing out this logic. They could post that lots of the fans of this show are unhinged dingbats that use Protocols of the Elders of Zion like it’s Robert’s Rules of Order and storm off in a huff.
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Oct 12, 2022 17:13
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Anonymous Zebra posted:I think people are still carrying baggage from GoT and seeing the tropes from that show in this one. Alicent is not Cersei. As of the 8 episodes we've seen right now there is no indication that Alicent is a murderer. On the contrary, she seems to be actively avoiding murdering people at every turn. She was hanging out with Larys all the time until he pulled his, "I did murder for you." at which point we've been shown on screen that she won't even meet his gaze, nor is she hanging out with him after that. I totally agree with this. During the scene I was waiting for the Alicent to hand the girl off to a crony or someone to be 'taken care of' and was a bit relieved when she didn't. It was certainly a menacing, tense situation especially considering the setting, but I don't think at this point Alicent is a killer, she's just trying to hold her poo poo together. I know as goons we see someone who is religious and we are all 'A HA! ROTTEN HYPOCRITE!', but I think she's really leaning into her faith is another indicator of her attempting to do the right thing considering her circumstances.
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That DICK! posted:So is now a good time to revisit the fact that the director of the episode said the tea was for abortion and that she was still alive, or are the dumbest tv watchers in history still insisting she was forced to say that by the Jewish cabal running Hollywood Eat poo poo. 
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Oct 12, 2022 17:25
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Also, Alicent being religious is not exactly something that's super out of nowhere. The second episode of the show has young Alicent taking Rhaenyra to a sept to pray, and even talks about how coming there helps her feel closer to her dead mother. In fact, it's this very belief that Rhaenyra uses against Alicent later when she swears by her mother that Daemon never touched her, which Alicent believes because she shared that moment with Rhaenyra (and why Alicent feels so betrayed when she discovers Rhaenyra lied to her). Alicent is under immense pressure from episode 1. They literally focus in on her tearing at her own hands in the first episode. The lady is basically suppressing her own discomfort at every moment and forcing that energy into lots of different pursuits.
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Anonymous Zebra posted:EDIT: Now that I think about it, Rhaenyra has a larger body count than Alicent since she and Daemon actually killed that random guard to fake her husband's death. Rhaenyra slaughtered that hog, and brought it into camp like a real hunter. She has tasted blood, and she liked it
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TyrantWD posted:https://www.instagram.com/p/CjmmpZpNquJ/ holy poo poo give paddy all the awards
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If you watch my video analysis of the appearence pattern of the palace rat, you will see Dyana is definitely dead.
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It seems to me that Walt’s life would be totally bad rear end like Scarface if it weren’t for that nagging bitch Skylar.
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Farg posted:there will be a flashback scene next episode where she drives her to the airport and buys her a one way ticket to Hawaii and gives her a tropical drink as she boards the plane and dyana will look into the camera and say "thank you for sparing my life, as despite the gulf in our social standings you recognize that as women we are both constrained and harmed by the social norms of our society" and then people will go "what if the plane was sabotaged so it would crash over the pacific" Rappaport posted:The teddy bear on the plane ignites for no visible reason. It was dragon fire. lmao
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Why disown her son, to his face in front of his wife-sister, if all she had to do was throw some cash at a wench and give her some tea?
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lol were in tviv dude
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Guys, what if it was just a normal tea?
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I’m pretty sure the Jewish cabal thing was making fun of the people saying the reporter pressured the actress into her reading of the scene an not actually racism.
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TheBizzness posted:I’m pretty sure the Jewish cabal thing was making fun of the people saying the reporter pressured the actress into her reading of the scene an not actually racism. It was, however, a mistake to assume the people posting in this thread could correctly discern the meaning and context of the joke without tripping over their dick
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At this point, we have multiple official sources saying that Dyana way paid off and is still out there (hell, the official podcast's weekly body count is listed as '2' -Viserys and Vaemond), whether that has impact on the story it remains to be seen and in this thread people saying 'Yeah, no. They must mean something else..." I get death of the author and all that, everyone is free to interpret what they will in art or whatever and the scene was spooky, I think everyone was scared for the girl. That being said, it is interesting this, uh, discussion is still going on despite pretty conclusive evidence that Alicent did not kill or have the girl killed.
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TheBizzness posted:I’m pretty sure the Jewish cabal thing was making fun of the people saying the reporter pressured the actress into her reading of the scene an not actually racism. Do you expect the people who think that there's secret coded meanings behind interview transcripts to also be able to actually read.
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Anonymous Zebra posted:Also, Alicent being religious is not exactly something that's super out of nowhere. The second episode of the show has young Alicent taking Rhaenyra to a sept to pray, and even talks about how coming there helps her feel closer to her dead mother. In fact, it's this very belief that Rhaenyra uses against Alicent later when she swears by her mother that Daemon never touched her, which Alicent believes because she shared that moment with Rhaenyra (and why Alicent feels so betrayed when she discovers Rhaenyra lied to her). Alicent is under immense pressure from episode 1. They literally focus in on her tearing at her own hands in the first episode. The lady is basically suppressing her own discomfort at every moment and forcing that energy into lots of different pursuits. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Oct 12, 2022 |
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Ubersandwich posted:At this point, we have multiple official sources saying that Dyana way paid off and is still out there (hell, the official podcast's weekly body count is listed as '2' -Viserys and Vaemond), whether that has impact on the story it remains to be seen and in this thread people saying 'Yeah, no. They must mean something else..." Some people only like stories that have twists in them
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Would this all have been avoided if Rhyaenra told Allicent the truth about Cole? I feel like it would have.
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Guys, can "director" really count as author? Didn't D&D hired some director who shot the scenes wrong because he didn't read the book and gave it away in the post episode interview?
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zoux posted:Some people only like stories that have twists in them The twist was that she didn't kill Dyana. That whole scene was thick with tension, I expected her to be knifed/strangled at any second. It was surprising when Alicent instead tried to "make things right" as best she was able, given the circumstances.
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I just finished episode 6. Does this show have any fan-favorite characters at all? It feels sorely lacking in the Tyrion/Arya department.
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Avasculous posted:I just finished episode 6. Does this show have any fan-favorite characters at all? It feels sorely lacking in the Tyrion/Arya department. daemons wife seemed cool as gently caress
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Avasculous posted:I just finished episode 6. Does this show have any fan-favorite characters at all? It feels sorely lacking in the Tyrion/Arya department. Viserys is a treasure the whole way through. Also expecting big things from Aemond in the future
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I'm reminded of that scene in episode 5 where Viserys bemoans to Lyonel that he's never been tested as a man during his reign and he wonders whether he would have weathered the test to become a better man or if he would crumble and be found wanting. Now re-watch that scene of him walking to the throne this episode.
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Avasculous posted:I just finished episode 6. Does this show have any fan-favorite characters at all? It feels sorely lacking in the Tyrion/Arya department. There are at least 15 pages just talking about how much we love Paddy Considine and the well-balanced and nuanced portrayal of how you can be a great man but a bad king. Also, I'm a fan and I'm a fan of Daemon "lol gently caress this I have a magic sword and no more fucks to give lmao" Targaryen. In regards to minor characters punching above their weight class, there's my main man : Lord Beesbury. gently caress yeah, talk about math some more you senile little busy body.
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