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Played a bit of Cultic this morning. It looks great. Pistol enemies seem to be able to shoot me from miles away.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Played a bit of Cultic this morning. It looks great. Pistol enemies seem to be able to shoot me from miles away. Sure, but they're not hitscan - keep moving baybee
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Played a bit of Cultic this morning. It looks great. Pistol enemies seem to be able to shoot me from miles away. Yeah they may not have the character of Blood Cultists but they defo have their aim
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verbal enema posted:Trepang2 is going to be sick 
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cultic is in fact extremely good and generally feels like someone made a much better and less janky version of blood however, I will second that the pistol is insanely good, to the point where it feels like it overshadows the other weapons. you don't even need to upgrade accuracy on it to kill guys at long range, you'll only whiff shots from extremely far and even then you just shoot a bit more and it's fine because it gets a bazillion ammo.
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I'm surprised to see the turnaround on Prodeus here. I'm only now starting to mess around with the community-made stuff. Personally I found myself using all the weapons pretty frequently, not unlike with good Doom play. They all fill their niches nicely, although I agree that the Plasma Rifle is a little too perfect, and the regular shotgun gets obsolteted once you get the Auto Shotgun. They all feel fine to me. I can see the devs rebalancing things as needed but I think they're in a good place right now.
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Oct 15, 2022 13:29
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Holy poo poo this owns (I fixed the link)
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gently caress yeah this looks amazing. I never tried watching these movies
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Convex posted:gently caress yeah this looks amazing. I never tried watching these movies I've seen the first two and they're pretty good. didn't know there was a new one i need to watch it
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Grimthwacker posted:I'm surprised to see the turnaround on Prodeus here. I'm only now starting to mess around with the community-made stuff. Personally I found myself using all the weapons pretty frequently, not unlike with good Doom play. They all fill their niches nicely, although I agree that the Plasma Rifle is a little too perfect, and the regular shotgun gets obsolteted once you get the Auto Shotgun. They all feel fine to me. I can see the devs rebalancing things as needed but I think they're in a good place right now. I haven’t turned around on it. Game owns.
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Oct 15, 2022 16:49
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Tiny Timbs posted:I haven’t turned around on it. Game owns. 
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Tiny Timbs posted:I haven’t turned around on it. Game owns. My two issues were the overabundance of ammo pickups and the sound design on the shotgun being a bit weak, but that didn't impact the fun I had at all. I also love the way it looks.
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Oct 15, 2022 17:08
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The 7th Guest posted:Yea, a couple of people are just bein' a lil hyperbolic. It's currently 5th in my GOTY ranking
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I like Prodeus way more than a lot of recent Boomer Shooters. A lot of them have a lot of gimmicks which is fine, but at some point, I just need a game that focuses on shooting enemies instead of narrative stuff or non-shooting gameplay gimmicks. And while I was able to overcome my icky feelings with the Ion Fury devs and give that game a shot, I can't abide by legacy Build Engine issues in a game released in the 21st century. Prodeus is just very pure and activates the part of my brain that still loves to replay Doom 2 on the reg.
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Pennsylvanian posted:I like Prodeus way more than a lot of recent Boomer Shooters. A lot of them have a lot of gimmicks which is fine, but at some point, I just need a game that focuses on shooting enemies instead of narrative stuff or non-shooting gameplay gimmicks. And while I was able to overcome my icky feelings with the Ion Fury devs and give that game a shot, I can't abide by legacy Build Engine issues in a game released in the 21st century. Prodeus is just very pure and activates the part of my brain that still loves to replay Doom 2 on the reg. I think that's a really good way to put it actually - if you're the kind of person who "replays Doom 2" a lot, then Prodeus is pretty good for you. But if you're the kind of person who "plays a lot of Doom WADs" then Prodeus falls pretty flat. (And this is not meant to be an insult, to be clear, just I thought that was an insight into why it might appeal to some people and not to others.)
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I really don't like the way Prodeus handles secrets: instead of there being something useful there's usually an item that I then take to an entirely separate boring hub level to unlock something. Doom Eternal did it, too. I hope it doesn't become a trend. Part of the fun of secrets is finding cool stuff in there. Sometimes it's just a bunch of ammo or armor or whatever, sometimes its a gun that you wouldn't normally get until way later. It's a reward for poking around. A coupon for a weapon later doesn't have quite the same punch to it. If you're gonna give me upgrade currency, that's fine, just have the way to spend it be opening a menu. Walking across an empty hub map to buy a thingy doesn't add anything but busy work. It also bothered me in Prodeus that the things you buy were either hugely important parts of your abilities (the plasma gun, mobility powers) or underwhelming (the quadbarrel shotgun that doesn't outperform the regular shotgun). Decent game, tho. I'm also in the camp that likes the look and sound of it.
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Arivia posted:I think that's a really good way to put it actually - if you're the kind of person who "replays Doom 2" a lot, then Prodeus is pretty good for you. But if you're the kind of person who "plays a lot of Doom WADs" then Prodeus falls pretty flat. (And this is not meant to be an insult, to be clear, just I thought that was an insight into why it might appeal to some people and not to others.)
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Yeah, I definitely dislike the idea that I'm locked out of the double jump for a few levels because I didn't find all the secrets.
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As an observation, I get the impression that, with Prodeus' abrupt ending and the presence of enemies, weapons, and other assets in the level builder that are not present in the base campaign, there's the intention of releasing additional official campaigns in the future.
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The 7th Guest posted:That's definitely the vibe that I got from goon reviews, so it's a valid insight. And there are criticisms from the latter that are totally valid too, to be fair. They just weren't issues for me, or I disagree with 'em. It's at least nice to be able to just be like "oh, the mechanics in this aren't to my taste" instead of issues with chud poo poo in Ion Fury or something.  everyone deserves good boomershootering.
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Oct 15, 2022 19:09
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I'm pretty apathetic about secret hunting but I liked how Overload did it.
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Mordja posted:I'm pretty apathetic about secret hunting but I liked how Overload did it. How did Overload do it? It’s in my queue but I still haven’t played it.
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They’re just shootable walls that open iirc. Caveat: I can’t remember finding any secrets in Overload except by accidentally shooting walls. Overload is really good though. My favorite Descent-like, including Descent.
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What other Descent-likes even are there? Forsaken, I guess
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haveblue posted:What other Descent-likes even are there? Forsaken, I guess There was also that indie game "Sublevel Zero" that came out several years ago, but it's a Roguelite so that may not jive with some people.
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There was also Descent Underground which got nuked from Steam and never left early access. At least I only spent about £1 on it as it was in a random indie bundle years back
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bought and played CULTIC through in a single sitting, it owns. Can't wait for episode 2. It definitely goes a bit easy on you so i'd suggest most people with any shooter experience play on hard though. It's like if you cross RE4 with Blood, and anyone who doesn't find that appealing should reconsider their life choices. At 10$ it's a no brainer, buy it immediately!! I also played the demo for DISDAIN which I liked enough to put on a wish list. The GZDoom 3d models are charming when they're not trying to emulate Doom's art style, and the guns are like if the shotguns in Quake didn't suck. Next up is Prodeus I think, but the thread seems pretty ambivalent on it so maybe i'll wait
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Episode 2 of Turbo Overkill has been dated for Halloween, bringing with it the spookiest thing of all: A grappling hook. Oh, and a chainsaw bike. https://twitter.com/Apogee_Ent/status/1581353637812572161
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haveblue posted:What other Descent-likes even are there? Forsaken, I guess Sublevel Zero, RetroVirus, Zerograve, Desecrators (still in EA)...I feel like there was one more, with an emphasis on big asteroids and kinetic weapons, but I can't remember the title and Google is failing me.
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skasion posted:They’re just shootable walls that open iirc. Caveat: I can’t remember finding any secrets in Overload except by accidentally shooting walls. Not just that but as i recall the game gave you an audio cue when you were near one.
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ToxicFrog posted:Sublevel Zero, RetroVirus, Zerograve, Desecrators (still in EA)...I feel like there was one more, with an emphasis on big asteroids and kinetic weapons, but I can't remember the title and Google is failing me. Maybe Miner Wars 2081? By the space engineers people.
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ToxicFrog posted:Sublevel Zero, RetroVirus, Zerograve, Desecrators (still in EA)...I feel like there was one more, with an emphasis on big asteroids and kinetic weapons, but I can't remember the title and Google is failing me. For older ones there's also Terracide and Virus:The Game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX2Sb48tIzk Never seen this before, looks cool
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hta6HrN8DaM What if Half-Life 2 was Doom Eternal?
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hta6HrN8DaM Is that... Korn? Lol
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Guillermus posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX2Sb48tIzk Yeah, that looks like Half-Life, only extra linear. The pistol might as well be shooting blanks; I don't remember it being that weak in the source material. Al Cu Ad Solte posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hta6HrN8DaM That, however, looks absolutely nothing like Half-Life. They should probably ditch the vestigial resemblances and make it its own property at this point.
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Much deserved. Cultic rocks, just beat it yesterday. https://twitter.com/JasozzGames/status/1581456225002483712
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Turin Turambar posted:Is that... Korn? I'm glad I'm not the only one who instantly aged themself by recognizing that
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