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Azathoth posted:It will be good and do a lot to address concerns when he does that. I hope he follows through with that and doesn't just not do it, like when he said he was gonna set up as a proper charity a couple years ago and then didn't do that. You are straight up openly hostile to Plinkey right now. I hope you can see that. If you know something, say it. If not, you're just making things worse by amplifying baseless speculation that requires you actively ignoring the good that has come from the existence of the fund. And you're doing that as an admin. He said he provided information to Jeff, is going to provide additional information in time. Antagonism based on "this doesn't feel right" is not constructive.
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Azathoth posted:He decided to go into the other fund's thread and poo poo it up. He then came into this thread and tried to use my post over there to evade answering a question here. I haven't seen anything but a promise that in a couple weeks he will do something, which is outweighed by his actions specifically today. There was just a 21 QCS page where it was filled with personal insults and worse and you don't think you would be a little upset if that happened to you? You must be a paragon of of remaining calm
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redneck nazgul posted:just permaban him for being a scammer already, you've already made up your mind that he's a bad dude. a bunch of people who used the goon fund will probably get screwed but, hey, QCS was just really concerned that some poor goons might have gotten bamboozled when they weren't laughing at the idea of goons being bamboozled. You can come down off the cross whenever you would like. Plinkey has a reasonable path forward and it's up to him to walk it.
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Azathoth posted:He decided to go into the other fund's thread and poo poo it up. He then came into this thread and tried to use my post over there to evade answering a question here. I haven't seen anything but a promise that in a couple weeks he will do something, which is outweighed by his actions specifically today. After he got dragged out by PYF and QCS drama lovers, called a gambling addict and a scammer. Like, come on, man.
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Azathoth posted:He decided to go into the other fund's thread and poo poo it up. He then came into this thread and tried to use my post over there to evade answering a question here. I haven't seen anything but a promise that in a couple weeks he will do something, which is outweighed by his actions specifically today. He stopped posting there after you told him to stop. Pentyne is one of the people stirring up drama and not asking questions in good faith.
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redneck nazgul posted:just permaban him for being a scammer already, you've already made up your mind that he's a bad dude. a bunch of people who used the goon fund will probably get screwed but, hey, QCS was just really concerned that some poor goons might have gotten bamboozled when they weren't laughing at the idea of goons being bamboozled. insane leaps of logic. nobody who uses the fund would be screwed if the fund was handled responsibly. if anything, they'd receive more help, if this was organized properly.
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Oct 17, 2022 21:08
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Azathoth posted:You can come down off the cross whenever you would like. Plinkey has a reasonable path forward and it's up to him to walk it. Hung on the cross for helping others. No good deed goes unpunished.
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Azathoth posted:I've looked into setting up a 501(c)(3) before and I would very much like him to detail why the fund is hard to set up because I'm not seeing it. There's numerous platforms that will do all the reporting stuff for less than Patreon is taking, and offer accountability and all I've heard back is vague "it would be too hard". did you miss the part where he needs to incorporate and then pay a corporate tax lawyer and, depending on how he disburses the funds/various state laws, is require to track PII from the recipients who are then also on the hook to report the funds as income (taking more money they don't have)
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Wouldn't it be great if all these nice people posting in the QCS thread had his real name and address as well
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Oct 17, 2022 21:09
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Azathoth posted:You can come down off the cross whenever you would like. Plinkey has a reasonable path forward and it's up to him to walk it. preemptive "post the abusive PMs" for when you do ban him 
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Oct 17, 2022 21:09
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lets free cumshitter for a day so he can clear all this up for us....
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Azathoth posted:Then he needs to figure out a way to have basic accountability without that. There's plenty of mutual aid funds, food shelves, and other small charitable projects that can and do make it work with funds at or below what he takes in. He's been offered help from multiple people on this front, he should take any one of those people up on it. hey any plans to reflect on the complete disaster of moderation policy that led us here or is none of this your fault at all as usual
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Lpzie posted:lets free cumshitter for a day so he can clear all this up for us.... 
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Azathoth posted:He decided to go into the other fund's thread and poo poo it up. He then came into this thread and tried to use my post over there to evade answering a question here. I haven't seen anything but a promise that in a couple weeks he will do something, which is outweighed by his actions specifically today. lets face it when plinkey start getting trashed you let the feelings foster, its a flamewar now bucko. seeing respective goons showing concern about something that was present for 4 years but they didn't know about is pretty funny. like I get all the separate sides, but really funny seeing people be like "look plinkster, this aint a personal attack but" in the plinkey is a degenerate gambler thread lol. Honestly, you should just not have this or the other thread for discussion and have some royal rumble thread.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Also not cool that Az is perpetuating insinuations with the authority of his position in spite of that
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:did you miss the part where he needs to incorporate and then pay a corporate tax lawyer and, depending on how he disburses the funds/various state laws, is require to track PII from the recipients who are then also on the hook to report the funds as income (taking more money they don't have)
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Oct 17, 2022 21:12
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Hot Karl Marx posted:There was just a 21 QCS page where it was filled with personal insults and worse and you don't think you would be a little upset if that happened to you? You must be a paragon of of remaining calm for what it's worth azathoth is pretty good at knowing better than to respond to actual criticism or to justify himself to goons
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Oct 17, 2022 21:12
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The red star seeped into Az so quickly. I'm sorry friend, if I'd known this would be what became of you I'd have never nominated you. It's not too late. Cast it aside, return to the bird thread. There still may be enough of you left.
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im tired of talking about this because i know no matter what goons will keep donating to the shady goon who refuses to answer questions and gets hostile when asked simple questions out of spite but all people want is some transparency about the money and who it is going to and what it is being used for no one wants to dox anyone
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Zeron posted:It'd be a lot easier for things to cool down if an Admin wasn't condoning and calling for unsubstantiated personal attacks against a specific poster. Plinkey literally came back after all of this had happened and has spent posts after that addressing peoples concerns, with remarkable constraint considering the harassment you've personally supported. seriously Az what the gently caress are you doing
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Azathoth posted:He decided to go into the other fund's thread and poo poo it up. He then came into this thread and tried to use my post over there to evade answering a question here. I haven't seen anything but a promise that in a couple weeks he will do something, which is outweighed by his actions specifically today. poo poo it up by..explaining some of the problems he had setting up his own goon fund and providing recommendations against ideas that even that thread has decided were bad? Perhaps if you didn't want angry posting you could have told people to cool down and stop attacking him until he got a chance to defend himself. And then perhaps not immediately attacked when he did try to.
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Azathoth posted:You can come down off the cross whenever you would like. Plinkey has a reasonable path forward and it's up to him to walk it. Just gently caress-off liberal.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:You are straight up openly hostile to Plinkey right now. I hope you can see that. Here is what I know. Plinkey is acting exactly like someone guilty of skimming funds would act. That's it, that's all I know. I'm not going to run people out of this thread for pointing out the same. He looks and acts guilty as hell. Now, that isn't to say he's actually doing anything wrong, but right now he's a massive flashing warning red flag. He's done a lot of good for the forums but doing some real good doesn't make him look better here. He needs to provide transparency, and he's been offered help to do that. If he is unwilling or unable to do that, well then he needs to deal with people saying he looks shady because no one's gonna start probing people for pointing out something that looks really, really bad. To be clear, I don't think Plinkey is actually skimming, but when dealing with charity and other people's money, the appearance of impropriety is nearly as bad as impropriety itself and I cannot in good conscience turn a blind eye to that. Plinkey has a path to address reasonable concerns, and now he needs to follow through.
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Okay, I'm done here. Plinkey knows what he needs to do. Now he needs to do it.
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Oct 17, 2022 21:14
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Azathoth posted:Okay, I'm done here. Plinkey knows what he needs to do. Now he needs to do it. do you think that a red star makes you like a sherriffs deputy or something lol what is this air of authority like you have any more credibility here than plinkey or anyone else
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Oct 17, 2022 21:15
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Azathoth posted:Here is what I know. Plinkey is acting exactly like someone guilty of skimming funds would act. That's it, that's all I know. I'm not going to run people out of this thread for pointing out the same. He looks and acts guilty as hell
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lol just perma him already and let el jeff reverse it if plinkey decides its worth the effort to plead his case. you just said he's guilty. the idea of goonfund is sunk, we can go REMEMBER WHEN CSPAM LET A GAMBLING ADDICT TAKE ALL THE MONEY FROM THEIR CHARITY for years to come in the sags thread, mission loving accomplished
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Ok, im done here. I did a big stinky doodie in my dipey and now mother knows what she needs to do.
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Oct 17, 2022 21:16
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Azathoth posted:Here is what I know. Plinkey is acting exactly like someone guilty of skimming funds would act. That's it, that's all I know. I'm not going to run people out of this thread for pointing out the same. He looks and acts guilty as hell. Now, that isn't to say he's actually doing anything wrong, but right now he's a massive flashing warning red flag. lol decorum bullshit
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Azathoth posted:Okay, I'm done here. Plinkey knows what he needs to do. Now he needs to do it. You are entirely bitch made
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ive played a lot of mafia and plinkey smells like town to me. scum are usually cognizant to not post things like a scamlord but slip up. and someone like koalas march would just say they're taking the money. this whole thing is dumb as hell
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Love how the mods never admit that they hosed up and just double down instead
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Azathoth posted:Here is what I know. Plinkey is acting exactly like someone guilty of skimming funds would act. That's it, that's all I know. I'm not going to run people out of this thread for pointing out the same. He looks and acts guilty as hell. Now, that isn't to say he's actually doing anything wrong, but right now he's a massive flashing warning red flag. I guess there is no innocent till proven guilty in FORUMS COURT
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like, I'm willing to eat crow in a month if Jeff says he never received any documents or that it's clear it's been stolen BUT I'm willing to actually wait till then before I throw under the bus someone who's helped feed and pay rent of fellow humans
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Oct 17, 2022 21:18
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Azathoth posted:Okay, I'm done here. Plinkey knows what he needs to do. Now he needs to do it. bad shoot. you suck.
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Oct 17, 2022 21:18
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Oct 17, 2022 21:19
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Azathoth posted:Okay, I'm done here. Plinkey knows what he needs to do. Now he needs to do it. You need to loving resign
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World Famous W posted:like, I'm willing to eat crow in a month if Jeff says he never received any documents or that it's clear it's been stolen BUT I'm willing to actually wait till then before I throw under the bus someone who's helped feed and pay rent of fellow humans i can't believe you're trying to help a scammer scam goons it's better that the fund not exist than entertain the possibility that an rear end in a top hat i just made up in my brain would skim off of it
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redneck nazgul posted:lol they'll be posting about this for years and what an epic win it was that a bunch of people missed out on help. kinda sad if u think about it, I'm glad most posters in cspam don't act like that
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