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DaveWoo posted:Now that I think about it, why isn't there a nostalgia-bait sitcom about growing up in the 2000s? The only good thing about the 2000s is that it was the golden age of the internet, and that doesn't make for especially compelling TV.
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emgeejay posted:I'm reminded that Lisa organically adopting the slang "DMY" was some of the last genuinely clever comedy writing I saw on the show before I stopped watching, and that was... season 10, episode 1 (a holdover from season 9) I’m also reminded of Homer vs. Patty & Selma when Bart and Mulhouse are taking their time to get to school on extracurricular sign-up day and a classmate says that “if they don’t get here soon, it’ll be T.S. for them.” Surprised that one slid by.
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You Are A Elf posted:I’m also reminded of Homer vs. Patty & Selma when Bart and Mulhouse are taking their time to get to school on extracurricular sign-up day and a classmate says that “if they don’t get here soon, it’ll be T.S. for them.” I don't get it. I've reached Season 8 and it's definitely gone weird places but I wouldn't say any of it's bad. I'm curious what made Hurricane Flanders so divisive among fans, though.
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Oct 18, 2022 01:25
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FireWorksWell posted:I don't get it. Tough poo poo (the answer, not me telling you tough poo poo  )
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You Are A Elf posted:Tough poo poo (the answer, not me telling you tough poo poo Oh duh, thanks.
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Oct 18, 2022 01:29
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DaveWoo posted:Now that I think about it, why isn't there a nostalgia-bait sitcom about growing up in the 2000s? Pen15 on Hulu. Though it does lay it on heavy early on and gradually the era just becomes a backdrop. Highly recommended show though.
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Oct 18, 2022 01:36
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FireWorksWell posted:Oh duh, thanks.  FireWorksWell posted:I don't get it. Hurricane Neddy is divisive? First time I’ve heard of this episode being polarizing among fans. It’s got a lot of great gags and a solid plot.
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Oct 18, 2022 01:47
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It kind of does the "Principal and the Pauper" thing where it drastically changes a character's backstory but then resets them so it doesn't matter. In this case, being that Ned's friendliness and "diddlies" are actually him repressing deep-rooted anger.
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Oct 18, 2022 01:57
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You Are A Elf posted:Hurricane Neddy is divisive? First time I’ve heard of this episode being polarizing among fans. It’s got a lot of great gags and a solid plot. Maybe I'm misremembering, I thought I'd heard of it being considered a starting point for bad Simpsons before. Edit: Yeah, I've seen it compared to Principal and the Pauper, which I should be getting to soon actually.
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Oct 18, 2022 02:00
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I mean, Ned is still Ned in the end. It doesn’t really change a thing about his character, it just gives us some insight into his life (unlike Armin Tamzarian’s fabricated one)  It’s when Homer films Ned’s pixelated monster dong in the shower that his character was cheapened.
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Oct 18, 2022 02:27
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Don't forget that Ned is canonically a senior citizen now
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DaveWoo posted:Now that I think about it, why isn't there a nostalgia-bait sitcom about growing up in the 2000s? The problem is that the early 2000s sucked. There's nothing interesting or iconic about the fashion, music, or sociopolitical environment. I was a late teen / early 20s kid during that era. There's nothing I'm nostalgic about aside from that being before I was a balding middle age guy with a bad back.
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Oct 18, 2022 04:04
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DaveWoo posted:Don't forget that Ned is canonically a senior citizen now Hurricane Neddy does actually work with that, given his parents are shown to be beatniks. Though also reminded of the one episode where he won't turn off the phone that Homer's autodialler keeps calling because he doesn't want to miss his mother calling.
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Oct 18, 2022 04:21
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I watched the latest episode, and one of the biggest problem is that it runs through the plot so quickly that it never takes the time to develop. It's like watching an outline. Plot points happen because they need to. And so you end up with an episode that isn't about anything and has nothing to say. And that's been the biggest problem with most of the episodes I've watched that were recent. The writers just cram so many plot points, that they forget that it doesn't make a plot. And so you get these stale, surface level jokes where moments don't develop and you don't really get to do anything. The jokes end up falling victim to what a lot of adult animation falls victim to - the concept is the joke and they do no additional work to make it funny. Case in point, Krusty makes a lame joke, and the audience laughs in an uproar. We see a woman say "this is the kind of humor I can laugh at." That's it. It's the concept of the joke, and apparently the idea behind the joke is funny enough. When did this get to be a thing comedy writers did?
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Oct 18, 2022 04:36
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I saw a tweet with the Kesha couch gag being praised for “going hard” and a bunch of kids being astonished that it predates Tick Tock. I want to be dead.
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Oct 18, 2022 04:40
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Because it doesn't actually matter if the Simpsons is good anymore.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I saw a tweet with the Kesha couch gag being praised for “going hard” and a bunch of kids being astonished that it predates Tick Tock. I want to be dead. I don’t like that I’ve lived through like two major pop culture cycles as an adult.
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Oct 18, 2022 07:08
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I saw an ad for season 34 on the phone and lold. How the gently caress.
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You Are A Elf posted:I’m also reminded of Homer vs. Patty & Selma when Bart and Mulhouse are taking their time to get to school on extracurricular sign-up day and a classmate says that “if they don’t get here soon, it’ll be T.S. for them.” Did you miss the punchline? When it turns out to stand for tethered swimming in the next scene.
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Oct 18, 2022 10:56
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Oh boy TS, that's where I don't feel right
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DaveWoo posted:Now that I think about it, why isn't there a nostalgia-bait sitcom about growing up in the 2000s? 2000's start with 9/11 and end with meltdown of the global economic system, so yeah. Theoretically you could make a feel good sitcom set in 1930's Europe, but it's easy to see why nobody haven't.
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Oct 18, 2022 14:19
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Im really crapping angry about the Simpsons. Some kid at the playground said he enjoyed an episode from season 12 so naturally had both of my sons Chad and Brad kick his rear end for a solid 5 minutes. Little poo poo wont be talking smack about Marge vs The Monorail Written By Conan Freaking OBreain again (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Grab Im Moor posted:I saw an ad for season 34 on the phone and lold. How the gently caress. Still maintaining that if your show outlives Jesus of Nazareth you should have to face some sort of reckoning
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Oct 18, 2022 15:19
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Do people actually say TS as an abbreviation for tough poo poo? I thought the whole joke was "what's the worst sport we can think of?"New Yorp New Yorp posted:The problem is that the early 2000s sucked. There's nothing interesting or iconic about the fashion, music, or sociopolitical environment. I was a late teen / early 20s kid during that era. There's nothing I'm nostalgic about aside from that being before I was a balding middle age guy with a bad back. Sounds like someone has forgotten.
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The Moon Monster posted:Do people actually say TS as an abbreviation for tough poo poo? I thought the whole joke was "what's the worst sport we can think of?" It was more common back then.  is you think the kid is saying something profane at first but he's actually describing a horrible PE class
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Oct 18, 2022 15:49
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Back when the show was new, a kid saying "shut up" was seen as a swear by a large number of parents. As tame as the show seems now, it was actually pretty common to hear about friends who weren't allowed to watch the Simpsons. Being able to slip just the letters "TS" past the censors was a pretty big laugh at the time Yes, this entire post is unironic
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There's a lot of subtle jokes. Jazzhole surprised them they they could get that on the air. There's the Public library, except it's in disrepair and the L fell off. In the 18th Amendment episode there's "caulk, delicious caulk." They got away with a lot of filthy jokes.
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Sentient Data posted:Back when the show was new, a kid saying "shut up" was seen as a swear by a large number of parents. As tame as the show seems now, it was actually pretty common to hear about friends who weren't allowed to watch the Simpsons. Being able to slip just the letters "TS" past the censors was a pretty big laugh at the time This. Yes, it means tethered swimming, but It’s also a good laugh twice (the implication and the punchline) and something that got past the censors.
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Oct 18, 2022 17:49
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have they done a flashback episode where high school age Homer gets an iPhone 3 with a fart app? If not, I feel like its only a question of time
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Oct 18, 2022 18:13
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Soon Homer will be old enough that they'll do a flashback episode about how he was an aspiring rapper when he was Bart's age and by the time he graduated high school he got a record contract. The episode is built around Bart finding a bunch of Homer's old CDs at a rummage sale, with titles like "Homersexual", "The Homergasm", "The Homertorius B.I.G." The entire family except Marge and Homer laugh hysterically at the songs, but Homer insists he wasn't doing parody rap, it was hardcore and serious about street life and you kids shouldn't be listening to this. Homer has to work on getting back his street cred and respect from his children.
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JediTalentAgent posted:Soon Homer will be old enough that they'll do a flashback episode about how he was an aspiring rapper when he was Bart's age and by the time he graduated high school he got a record contract. The episode is built around Bart finding a bunch of Homer's old CDs at a rummage sale, with titles like "Homersexual", "The Homergasm", "The Homertorius B.I.G." 
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Sentient Data posted:Back when the show was new, a kid saying "shut up" was seen as a swear by a large number of parents. As tame as the show seems now, it was actually pretty common to hear about friends who weren't allowed to watch the Simpsons. Being able to slip just the letters "TS" past the censors was a pretty big laugh at the time My grandmother hated the Simpsons because Bart "talks back to his elders" A lot of it was also being a cartoon marketed to adults (even though most of their audience was kids). Cartoons back then were only for kids, so having adult jokes in a cartoon was very transgressive. It's why the Simpsons caught a shitload of flak whereas Married ... with Children didn't get nearly as much even though it was way, way more profane. PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Oct 18, 2022 |
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PostNouveau posted:My grandmother hated the Simpsons because Bart "talks back to his elders" Yeah, I knew someone who said she wouldn't let her kids watch The Simpsons because of the backtalk.
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Iron Crowned posted:Yeah, I knew someone who said she wouldn't let her kids watch The Simpsons because of the backtalk. It was a big deal to say “drat” on TV when the simpsons first aired. Hell, now people can say poo poo. When are people gonna say c- cucumber salad? 
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Fish of hemp posted:2000's start with 9/11 and end with meltdown of the global economic system, so yeah. I mean, we've got actually existing sitcoms set in the Korean War (but about Vietnam), and in France under Nazi occupation.
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Whizzing Wizard posted:have they done a flashback episode where high school age Homer gets an iPhone 3 with a fart app? There was no iPhone 3. There was the iPhone 3G, which was actually the second iPhone model. The third iPhone model was the iPhone 3GS. 
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I invite anyone who does not think the 00s have a clear identity to load up Need for Speed Underground 2 on the PlayStation 2 and just soak it in.
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Sentient Data posted:Back when the show was new, a kid saying "shut up" was seen as a swear by a large number of parents. As tame as the show seems now, it was actually pretty common to hear about friends who weren't allowed to watch the Simpsons. Being able to slip just the letters "TS" past the censors was a pretty big laugh at the time Oh yeah, I definitely remember it being considered pretty edgy/transgressive in the 90s. I just had no idea people saying "TS" was a thing e: I asked my wife what she'd think I meant if I were to say "It'll be TS for them!". Her reply: "The Simpsons?" 
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Sentient Data posted:Back when the show was new, a kid saying "shut up" was seen as a swear by a large number of parents. As tame as the show seems now, it was actually pretty common to hear about friends who weren't allowed to watch the Simpsons. Being able to slip just the letters "TS" past the censors was a pretty big laugh at the time My cousins were both banned from watching The Simpsons as kids, in part because their parents were devout Baptists at the time and in part because my younger cousin was an absolute hellion as a kid and they thought Bart might be a "bad influence" on him, not that he needed anybody's influence to be as a pain in the rear end as creatively as possible. I think Elon Musk basically paying the show for Lisa to go awestruck over him should be more recognized as a nadir.
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