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Lucinice posted:I got some questions I want to ask Lucinice posted:2) I want to do more layering and highlighting but is there a good guide out there to like mixing your own paints for those? I'd rather just find a way to like brighten up a base paint and use that for highlights than buying a whole new paint. One caveat, though: mixing your own colors is great for one-off models, but if you're going to be doing large numbers of miniatures whose colors are intended to match (i.e. uniform colors or whatever), you can go mad trying to duplicate what you did previously. EDIT: In terms of guides, brightening and darkening is about more than just adding white or black to a paint. Color theory is really important, and getting a good art book that explains it will help you do more with fewer colors. Ilor fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Oct 18, 2022 |
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WindwardAway posted:Yeah, that's kind of what I figured 😅 I just want some metallic paint to go into the grooves like how a shade would, but obviously not to the same effect. What would this accomplish though? Seeing as the grooves are supposed to be dark shadows which don't really reflect light.
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Ilor posted:EDIT: In terms of guides, brightening and darkening is about more than just adding white or black to a paint. Color theory is really important, and getting a good art book that explains it will help you do more with fewer colors. Thanks Vince!
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WindwardAway posted:Are there any metallic washes in existence? I know that's a little difficult in theory because the metallic quality would spread everywhere and just be more concentrated in the crevices and such, but I figured I'd ask anyway since I'm fairly new to miniature painting, and haven't discovered all the tips and tricks yet. I could thin a regular metallic paint, I guess, but I'm not sure if it would produce such a good result or if I'm doomed to paint the metallic parts individually. I have had really good luck with a bright metallic color as the first layer then going over it with a contrast paint, if you want non standard metallic colors. My necrons have orangeish and blueish metallic achieved with the bright bronze/brass spray can as a first layer.
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Lucinice posted:I got some questions I want to ask 1. If you let them dry for ~24+ hours* and then varnish over them, they will not reactivate ever because water can't reach them! But yes, they do reactivate if water-based anything touches them until they have completely utterly dried, which is a looooooong time past where they look dry. 2. Yes, lots. There are many ways to do this, one is a "universal highlight color" where you just mix the same highlight color into all your paints. See Vince's video on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHg1yfX-dXI (there are many others by many other good painters) The basic thing is that you don't just want to "add white". That not only desaturates your base color, but looks bad, as the highlight is Your Color + Light Color, which is rarely if ever white. So you want to mix a warm color if your light source is warm (the sun, fire, etc.) or a cool color if your light is cool (the moon, blue glowing sword, etc.) * some say 48 hours or more if you are brush-on varnishing.
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Finished a Hellblaster from the Iron Knights Chapter today for my Deathwatch.       Just one more and I'll have a full combat squad of 5!
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Andy bringin' that rich cream goddamn
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Lumpy posted:* some say 48 hours or more if you are brush-on varnishing. I had Speedpaints reactivate on a mini that had been sitting for a week, possibly longer, so I will definitely say YMMV.
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Started a potential competition entry. Lots of refining left on the metals but satisfied with the initial placement and tones. It's weird how natural NMM feels, especially when comparing it to something like skin. Think this dude will be a great exercise in that!
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I haven't had an issue with speedpaint reactivating but I'm also not going over spots touched by speedpaints. I hear if you do medium instead of water for the paints it doesn't do it but I haven't bothered with that.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I haven't had an issue with speedpaint reactivating but I'm also not going over spots touched by speedpaints. I have and it hasn't worked for me, regardless of the ratio of SP medium to paint.
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AndyElusive posted:Finished a Hellblaster from the Iron Knights Chapter today for my Deathwatch. He owns! I love the highlights and especially the plasma effects
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WindwardAway posted:Are there any metallic washes in existence? I know that's a little difficult in theory because the metallic quality would spread everywhere and just be more concentrated in the crevices and such, but I figured I'd ask anyway since I'm fairly new to miniature painting, and haven't discovered all the tips and tricks yet. I could thin a regular metallic paint, I guess, but I'm not sure if it would produce such a good result or if I'm doomed to paint the metallic parts individually. Hypothetically add some flow aid/improver to a chosen acrylic based metallic and then spot apply as if you're panel lining. I would not do this over large open faced areas, only spot applying to crevices. It's at least something to test. I'm curious how the mica flakes would pool when the liquids surface tension is borked. Ilor posted:It depends on who you ask and what colors they were using. My understanding is that it is highly unpredictable. The counter to the bolded is just to make enough of the color once you get it where you want and throw it in a pot. Or record the recipe (which everyone who mixes should be doing anyway). If you want to learn how to mix, I suggest not using miniature paints off the bat. For the most part these aren't pure pigment paints, and that's specifically why people have such a hard time mixing/being adventurous with color theory. Make no mistake though, artist grade paint still has its own material quirks; such as which colors are naturally opaque or translucent, but you will consistently get the same results if you put just a little learning in. Basic color theory will cover a great deal of bases and I highly recommend it. The easiest first lesson is that chroma and value are independent characteristics of color.
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Eej posted:What would this accomplish though? Seeing as the grooves are supposed to be dark shadows which don't really reflect light. No, only in certain places, not all over the entire figure. I mean the sort of glow you see when someone with superpowers activates them (this is probably not the best description I could give). But I guess then it's best for me to just paint it manually; I'm just being a bit lazy and looking for a quicker way to achieve this effect.
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When I asked the GF art major about mixing paints to get certain colors she just handed me a book of her swatches and said "go hog wild and figure it out" 
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The Demilich posted:Hypothetically add some flow aid/improver to a chosen acrylic based metallic and then spot apply as if you're panel lining. I would not do this over large open faced areas, only spot applying to crevices. I do know from experience that for the Vallejo Shifters (metallic paint that shifts color depending on the angle of light hitting it), they pool in crevices kind of oddly because they're not a solid color. You get the color shifts on the surfaces, but if you put too much paint into the crevices it ends up looking whitish —or whatever the original appearance of the paint is when it's in the bottle — because there are too many metallic particles pooled in there with nothing in the background to provide a contrast. I made that mistake on the first mini I painted, but didn't repeat that mistake on any of the others.
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WindwardAway posted:I do know from experience that for the Vallejo Shifters (metallic paint that shifts color depending on the angle of light hitting it), they pool in crevices kind of oddly because they're not a solid color. You get the color shifts on the surfaces, but if you put too much paint into the crevices it ends up looking whitish —or whatever the original appearance of the paint is when it's in the bottle — because there are too many metallic particles pooled in there with nothing in the background to provide a contrast. I made that mistake on the first mini I painted, but didn't repeat that mistake on any of the others. This is when the paints aren't thinned, btw.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:I have had really good luck with a bright metallic color as the first layer then going over it with a contrast paint, if you want non standard metallic colors. My necrons have orangeish and blueish metallic achieved with the bright bronze/brass spray can as a first layer. im trying to figure out how to do metallic purple for a while now. ill give this a shot!
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Casual Encountess posted:im trying to figure out how to do metallic purple for a while now. ill give this a shot! Army painter makes an actual metallic purple, along with other metallic colors. I think they look neat in the proper application. I have the whole set. Here is a chaos lord work in progress in which I used the pink and green metallics. 
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WindwardAway posted:Yeah, that's kind of what I figured 😅 I just want some metallic paint to go into the grooves like how a shade would, but obviously not to the same effect. If you are doing some kind of panel lining, try fine point metallic paint pens. Use a bright silver and then use washes or contrast to tint as needed.
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Harvey Mantaco posted:Andy bringin' that rich cream goddamn Don't worry everyone, it's just lahmian medium I swear. Bohemian Nights posted:He owns! I love the highlights and especially the plasma effects Thanks, it's my first try with that particular plasma effect method.
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WindwardAway posted:No, only in certain places, not all over the entire figure. I mean the sort of glow you see when someone with superpowers activates them (this is probably not the best description I could give). But I guess then it's best for me to just paint it manually; I'm just being a bit lazy and looking for a quicker way to achieve this effect. Best to just paint this manually yeah.
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 Finally did these goblins, I think I'm just at a point with these where I'm not satisfied but at least they're painted and I can move on  And I like my cute little robutt
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Casual Encountess posted:im trying to figure out how to do metallic purple for a while now. ill give this a shot! You can also get vibrant acrylic ink and just mix it into a bright silver, and boom: any color you want metallics!
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GreenBuckanneer posted:
If any robot was deserving of a little happy face on the front....
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Lumpy posted:You can also get vibrant acrylic ink and just mix it into a bright silver, and boom: any color you want metallics! Or a coloured wash over bright silver. Not as intense but still any colour metallics
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It wants uppies :3
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Oh my god I just realized that with the Leagues of Votann having AI robots as equal partners you can draw cute digital faces on their dome helmets!
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hey guys quick question how do I remove paint from a plastic model/mini in a nice simple way? I botched an attempt to paint a model I bought a while ago but now that I'm getting a new paint set and looking at tutorials I want to take another shot at it. thanks.
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Al-Saqr posted:hey guys quick question how do I remove paint from a plastic model/mini in a nice simple way? I botched an attempt to paint a model I bought a while ago but now that I'm getting a new paint set and looking at tutorials I want to take another shot at it. thanks. Soak in Simple Green / Detol and scrub with a toothbrush. But if this is your first model, don't. You never strip your first
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Al-Saqr posted:hey guys quick question how do I remove paint from a plastic model/mini in a nice simple way? I botched an attempt to paint a model I bought a while ago but now that I'm getting a new paint set and looking at tutorials I want to take another shot at it. thanks. You can pick up a cheap ultrasonic cleaner online for $20-30. I use tap water with just a capful of simple green or LA's awesome from the dollar store as a cleaning solution. After a 10 minute cycle the paint mostly sloughs off. An ultrasonic cleaner has a bunch of uses, it surprisingly handy.
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Bought some Rosemary brushes finally. The internet suggested series 99 for here in the americas and a drybrush set so I picked one up.
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Slyphic posted:Soak in Simple Green / Detol and scrub with a toothbrush. But if this is your first model, don't. You never strip your first Sadly I’m going to have to because despite it being my ‘first’ in a while it’s also an ‘only’, it’s a showpiece Nausicaa valley of the wind model that I stupidly went in blind for, it’s not even finished, now that I’m learning how to paint minis for real I owe it to myself to re-do it so i can display it proudly. Also what’s simple green is that dish soap.
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Al-Saqr posted:Sadly I’m going to have to because despite it being my ‘first’ in a while it’s also an ‘only’, it’s a showpiece Nausicaa valley of the wind model that I stupidly went in blind for, it’s not even finished, now that I’m learning how to paint minis for real I owe it to myself to re-do it so i can display it proudly. This stuff. Most supermarkets and hardware stores carry it, I get mine at Meijer.
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It’s been a while, thread. I’m back with some Battletech/Alpha Strike minis, effectively a company of mechs that I’m hopefully taking to a event next month. Icon Of Sin posted:Nice! I finished up my merc company for an Alpha Strike event I may get to go to next month. Think I might call the company Canned Sunshine?
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GreenBuckanneer posted:
That is a great robot. I painted some myself. One of my first endeavors in non-fantasy miniatures that aren't 40K orcs. 
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 What color scheme do you think? I'm thinking Dark Purple and silver, maybe yellow accents? but IDK that I'm good with anything freehand yet.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:
Accents and basic heraldic stuff are probably the best ways to get into freehand painting since they're mostly just stripes and geometric shapes. Paint a straight line and fill it in; if the line's not straight, go over the wobbly bit with your base color until it looks straight. If you go too far with that, go back with your accent color. Plus, you don't have to do a ton; even simple accents add a lot. Purple and silver with a yellow stripe here or there would probably look great. I hadn't done any freehand work before I decided to tackle these guys, but I think they're still the best set of models I've done so far: 
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