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So has anyone tried running Stable Diffusion on a 4090 yet? How long does one image take, ca it do more than 1fps?
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Arrath posted:A friend of mine now has a 4090 and his gently used 3080 is looking for a new home. I currently run 1440 ultrawide, but have been considering moving to a high refresh 1440 screen. decide for yourself, I'd say quote:2) What's a fair price to pay if it is a good upgrade? based on this if I was trying to sell a stock FE3080 on SA mart right now, looking at ebay, $530-580 is where we're landing, 85% of $550 is $467.50, I would personally list it here for $430 plus shipping and maybe offer it to a friend for 400. 3090s are eBaying around $800 right now and I am haggling with a friend to unload mine to him for 700 plus 100 for an RMX850. Not that you really care, but, hey, you asked!!
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Cabbages and Kings posted:https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3080-vs-Nvidia-RTX-2070S-Super/4080vs4048 I humbly suggest that any time someone links userbenchmark it should have a warning like  Userbenchmark is an insane Intel fanboy and anything from the site should be taken with a planetary-sized grain of salt.In this case the comparison looks more or less okay, but people should be aware that userbenchmark does all sorts of weird poo poo, like their definition of "eFPS": https://www.userbenchmark.com/Faq/What-are-effective-frames-per-second-EFps/112
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Userbenchmark fiddles with results enough to make AMD look bad that I wouldn't even trust comparisons that don't involve AMD, because the numbers have probably been inflated in some way.
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Cabbages and Kings posted:Whatever you and your friend agree is fair. When I sell GPUs and stuff generally over a few hundred bucks on SA mart, I usually look at the last 10 sold ebay auctions, calculate the average price including shipping, and then try to sell on here for roughly 15% under that. When I offer stuff to meatspace friends it is usually in the same ballpark but more subject to barter ("you gave me that ounce of weed last month but then I helped you mount a TV and then you helped us pick up our car, so, uh, knock off another $50?") Well said. I have horrible impulse control and always have the best technology so this is something I go through with my friends constantly. I tend to sell for 35-50% below market to friends. The inherent issue here is that the friend who owns the technology should be the one to set the price, because you, as the buyer, are going to have an awkward time if you just ask a price 30% under market and act like that's fair. He should offer it, not the other way around. In the end mixing money between friends can be a little rough and your friend will hopefully be totally chill with selling to you for a great price, especially if you guys go a ways back. But yeah unfortunately that has to be a decision your friend comes to on his end and mostly has to do with his disposable income, laziness to offload elsewhere, and how much he sacrifices for his buddies. (this is assuming you want a below-market bro price discount. If you don't want to rely on his good graces and just set a market price, then sure, shoot him a data-based quote).
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Oct 18, 2022 20:39
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I’d say go for the 3080 imo. I think it’s worth it for 1440
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Arrath posted:A friend of mine now has a 4090 and his gently used 3080 is looking for a new home. I currently run 1440 ultrawide, but have been considering moving to a high refresh 1440 screen. As somebody who used a 2070 Super for ~6 months while I waited for my 3080 in EVGA's queue and who is also using a high-refresh main screen at 1440p--yes the upgrade is worth it. I don't have numbers to reference, but the difference was tangible.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:As somebody who used a 2070 Super for ~6 months while I waited for my 3080 in EVGA's queue and who is also using a high-refresh main screen at 1440p--yes the upgrade is worth it. I don't have numbers to reference, but the difference was tangible. Yeah, I upgraded from a 2070 Super to a 3080 12GB and at 1440p it makes a big difference.
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Thanks everyone, I was looking through old GN videos and other benchmarks and it does seem like a solid upgrade, let the haggling begin.
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Anyone have experience buying things on Mercari? I’m seeing GPUs listed for 100 or more less than on eBay. I assume the buyer protection on Mercari is much worse than eBay?
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I've never used Mercari before, butquote:Mercari does not release payment until the item is delivered and the buyer confirms it is as specified. If an item received is not as described in the listing, the buyer may request a full refund within 3 days of receipt of the item. Those sub-$500 3080s seem awfully tempting.
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I haven't used it either but I always avoid it cause whatever came back when I tried googling about them, seems they come up in a LOT of different Google shopping results for a ton of products and it's always a little bit too good to be true pricing I see.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I've never used Mercari before, but Tell me about it…. I mean I assume they are miner cards being offloaded but it seems like maybe since it’s a less well known platform there might be some deals to be had?
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Intel has addressed concerns about idle power draw on Arc by explaining that to enable low power states on the card you need to go into the bios and windows power plan to adjust some settings https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-has-a-solution-for-high-idle-power-on-intel-arc-desktop-gpus just lmao at requiring the user to do this work just to have basic gpu features such as "idling"
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Oct 19, 2022 01:05
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Oh lawd he only wants $300 for that 3080. Sold!
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Arrath posted:Oh lawd he only wants $300 for that 3080. Sold! That’s the steal of the decade
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Intel has addressed concerns about idle power draw on Arc by explaining that to enable low power states on the card you need to go into the bios and windows power plan to adjust some settings https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-has-a-solution-for-high-idle-power-on-intel-arc-desktop-gpus looks at smashed pins zen 1 I have as a paperweight Yeah that’d be crazy.
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MarcusSA posted:That’s the steal of the decade He's a good dude.
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mobby_6kl posted:So has anyone tried running Stable Diffusion on a 4090 yet? How long does one image take, ca it do more than 1fps? Close but not exactly, except maybe img2img I just got 31 images 512x512 in 42 seconds with Automatic1111, around 5.87it/s most of the way through. Maybe I could mess with some stuff to get it going faster though
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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/8k-av1-decoding-compared Intel really does do media encode/decode better than anyone, huh. A770 handles 8K AV1 video smoothly while Nvidia drops a lot of frames and AMD is utterly unwatchable. AMD is dropping a lot of frames even with 4K 60FPS AV1 video, which is a more relevant use case.
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I'm fully cheering for Intel to Actually Do Something in GPUs here, it'd be great for everyone if we had a strong third competitor in the field and better encoding is a start I guess. Re: "3080 or not" chat above, I had the 3070 Ti at first, used my old 2070 non-super while it was in flight returning, and upgraded in the end to a 3080 12GB and holy poo poo it was super worth it. The 3080 is the sweet spot for my performance needs, the others were compromise territory. Getting one for $300 is sick as gently caress, mine cost $800 (ok, long story but I actually only ended up paying $699 for it in the end, still $300 smokes that).
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Idk if it means anything besides supplies being limited, but fwiw the 750 and 770 quickly go out of stock whenever they’re available at Newegg.
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Arrath posted:He's a good dude. A+ mates rates
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:https://www.tomshardware.com/news/8k-av1-decoding-compared I really want an A310 to chuck in my bottom slot to use as an encoding card. The difference in quality between H264 and AV1 for discord streaming (a near daily occurance for me) is night and day. I wish discord just let me run AV1 on my CPU though, I know it's very intensive but I'm usually not loading it much while streaming.
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If either the Intel Arc or Arc Pro are confirmed to support SR-IOV I'll definitely pick up an A380 or equiv Pro card and throw it into a VM host for encoding (and other purposes), once support for it catches up in KVM. Best info I have currently is 'maybe' on Arc/Arc Pro supporting SR-IOV, and '2023' for KVM support, so we'll see. There's always the Flex line of server cards, which look impressive and don't require additional vGPU licenses but will probably cost an arm and a leg as they're competing against Nvidia products costing $2500 and up.
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4k60 not being a solved hardware decode problem for av1 does ... not sound reassuring?
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Arrath posted:Oh lawd he only wants $300 for that 3080. Sold! Hell of a friend — keep him around because he clearly values your relationship more than making money. That feels kinda rare anymore.
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The rumours were true - the 4090 FE is larger than the 3080 FE: The case is a Corsair 4000D and I'd say there is perhaps a millimetre or two of space between the tempered glass side panel and the 4090's power cable/adapter thing. I may chuck Corsair a tenner for the solid side panel since the case lives under a desk anyway.
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It's interesting to compare how AMD kept the same HSF mounting height for AM5 when people would've liked to see a thinner IHS to this new, stupid power cable placement on the 40 series.
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SuperTeeJay posted:The rumours were true - the 4090 FE is larger than the 3080 FE: I'm sure you'll notice a huge difference in PUBG!
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Animal posted:I'm sure you'll notice a huge difference in PUBG!
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You can now run Doom in Notepad
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SuperTeeJay posted:The rumours were true - the 4090 FE is larger than the 3080 FE: Oh this is a good way to make the case pic relevant, sneaky! I'm picking up mine as soon as I can get out of this fuckin' work meeting (MSRP MSI Gaming Trio 4090). Gimme the loot baby  We work with Nvidia at my job actually but all I have to show for it is a pretty sweet Nvidia mug, they're stingy af with the bro deals.
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kliras posted:4k60 not being a solved hardware decode problem for av1 does ... not sound reassuring? Honestly I watch enough YouTube on a second monitor while playing games that I wouldn't mind picking up an Intel card just for video decode, but apparently Chrome doesn't let you actually choose which GPU to use for hardware acceleration. I am sick of stuttering frames while watching videos and playing games
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Bjork Bjowlob posted:If either the Intel Arc or Arc Pro are confirmed to support SR-IOV I'll definitely pick up an A380 or equiv Pro card and throw it into a VM host for encoding (and other purposes), once support for it catches up in KVM. Best info I have currently is 'maybe' on Arc/Arc Pro supporting SR-IOV, and '2023' for KVM support, so we'll see. You mean as a second, extra GPU? Can you not just pass through the entire IOMMU group and the gpu wouldn’t care?
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Shipon posted:Honestly I watch enough YouTube on a second monitor while playing games that I wouldn't mind picking up an Intel card just for video decode, but apparently Chrome doesn't let you actually choose which GPU to use for hardware acceleration. I am sick of stuttering frames while watching videos and playing games I've found that enabling "Hardware accelerated GPU scheduling" actually helps in my case, ymmv.
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Shipon posted:Honestly I watch enough YouTube on a second monitor while playing games that I wouldn't mind picking up an Intel card just for video decode, but apparently Chrome doesn't let you actually choose which GPU to use for hardware acceleration. I am sick of stuttering frames while watching videos and playing games  (i only have the one gpu atm, no igpu on the 5800X3D either) not specific to arc, but probably works? although i have no idea if you have both an igpu and two different gpu's kliras fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Oct 19, 2022 |
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Shipon posted:Honestly I watch enough YouTube on a second monitor while playing games that I wouldn't mind picking up an Intel card just for video decode, but apparently Chrome doesn't let you actually choose which GPU to use for hardware acceleration. I am sick of stuttering frames while watching videos and playing games This is actually an interesting use case and not the worst idea tbh
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Shipon posted:Honestly I watch enough YouTube on a second monitor while playing games that I wouldn't mind picking up an Intel card just for video decode, but apparently Chrome doesn't let you actually choose which GPU to use for hardware acceleration. I am sick of stuttering frames while watching videos and playing games For hardware accelerated decode, wouldn't it use the GPU that the monitor is plugged into? I'd assume? I could be wrong.
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Shipon posted:I am sick of stuttering frames while watching videos and playing games It’s a loving drag and I thought it was just me and my lame-rear end card.
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