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ikanreed: Sep 25, 2009; I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

someone's reading piketty

https://twitter.com/HAOHONG_CFA/status/1582642747176996864

The thing is, this is, fundamentally, such a reasonable loving perspective on the nature of national economies.

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AnimeIsTrash: Jun 30, 2018

AnimeIsTrash posted:

incredible things happening in china

https://twitter.com/wowinteresting8/status/1576884397659545600

# ? Oct 19, 2022 22:18

ModernMajorGeneral: Jun 25, 2010

The feeble international response to China’s cover up of its crimes in Xinjiang and attempt to bury the UN report has emboldened other rogue authoritarian states in the region to block UN human rights inspectors from their own detention centres.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/oct/20/nsw-turns-visiting-un-inspectors-away-from-queanbeyan-detention-facility

quote:

New South Wales has blocked United Nations officials from entering a detention facility as part of their visit under Australia’s commitment to the Optional Protocol to the Convention Against Torture (Opcat).

Queensland Health will also prevent the officials from visiting mental health wards where people ordered to undergo treatment or charged with crimes are held, the state health service confirmed to Guardian Australia.

Inspectors arrived at a facility in Queanbeyan, NSW, on Tuesday night and were denied access, the state corrections minister, Geoff Lee, said.

“The officers did the right thing and refused them entry,” he told 2GB.

“The whole role of our our jail system is to keep people safe, protect us from the criminals that we lock up every day. It’s not to allow people just to wander through at their leisure.

“They should be off to Iran looking for human rights violations there.”

# ? Oct 19, 2022 22:56

Eminent DNS: May 28, 2007

It says right in the name that it's optional though

# ? Oct 19, 2022 23:46

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

The feeble international response to China’s cover up of its crimes in Xinjiang and attempt to bury the UN report has emboldened other rogue authoritarian states in the region to block UN human rights inspectors from their own detention centres.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/oct/20/nsw-turns-visiting-un-inspectors-away-from-queanbeyan-detention-facility

lmao whatabout Iran!!?

# ? Oct 19, 2022 23:53

eSports Chaebol: Feb 22, 2005; Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

atelier morgan posted:

you absolutely would and there's a whole galaxy of algorithms that are programming a computer to take a shortcut rather than do math

future AIs will consider doing fast inverse square root approximation a sign of poor character

# ? Oct 20, 2022 00:15

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

GlassEye-Boy posted:

lol

https://www.blackburn.senate.gov/2022/10/blackburn-colleagues-call-on-president-biden-to-oppose-huawei-aligned-semiconductor-plant

Not only is this factory in China, it uses basically no US equipment. Please Biden, stop the Chinese from building this factory.

https://twitter.com/chenweihua/status/1334567538534084608?lang=en

# ? Oct 20, 2022 00:17

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

I honest think the more US fight against China over semiconductor the better. First of all, its a economic and technology war. Nobody's son die over it, everyone just pay 5 bux more for their phones and roombas.

Secondly, American has never been good at manufacturing, not against any east asian country in any chosen manufacturing field. Let them fight in battlefield the Americans don't realize they have many hidden handicaps, great.

Lastly, this is a particular capital intensed business the system of state capitalism has advantage over. Again, another system the American elites refuse to acknowledge. Let the thunderdome begin

# ? Oct 20, 2022 00:51

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

Lmao https://twitter.com/yongxiong2008/status/1582635148553879552

quote:

Chinese artist speaks out against zero-Covid policy by wearing 27 hazmat suits in Times Square
Art student in US dons dozens of hazmat suits to process trauma of China's zero-Covid lockdowns
A version of this story appeared in CNN's Meanwhile in China newsletter, a three-times-a-week update exploring what you need to know about the country's rise and how it impacts the world. Sign up here.
On Sunday morning, a puffy, Michelin Man-like figure trudged through Times Square in New York, panting from the exertion of trying to move while wearing 27 hazmat suits.

Inside the white cocoon was Zhisheng Wu, a Chinese artist who staged the street performance to criticize China's unrelenting zero-Covid policy.

"Protective suits have become a visual symbol in the collective experience and collective memory of every Chinese person," said Wu, a 28-year-old graduate student at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago.

With the suits' hoods wrapped tightly around his head, exposing only his nose and part of his eyes, Wu said he had been transformed into a "monster" with dulled senses. Originally he had planned to wear 100 of them but discovered 27 was the most he could fit into. As he staggered on, the artist stooped lower and lower until he had to resort to crawling. Eventually, he collapsed onto the ground and was helped by his assistant to break free from the suits, his face flushed and drenched in sweat.

The artist donned 27 hazmat suits for his performance.
The artist donned 27 hazmat suits for his performance. Credit: Yong Xiong/CNN
"I want to use it as a metaphor for each Chinese individual being drowned in the political torrent," he said.

During the roughly hour-long performance, passersby paused to look at Wu or take photos, though many appeared confused by what they saw. In the United States, hazmat suits have remained a rare sight in daily life, even at the height of the pandemic.
In China, however, Covid workers dressed head-to-toe in hazmat suits are still omnipresent almost three years after the virus emerged. Dubbed "dabai," or "big whites," they toil at Covid testing sites and quarantine camps, guard airports and train stations, and spray clouds of disinfectant in the streets and residential communities.

For many in China, they've come to embody the government's zero-tolerance approach, which relies on mass testing, extensive quarantines and snap lockdowns to stamp out infections at all costs � even as much of the world has moved on from the pandemic.

For Wu, the dabai are also an embodiment of power and subjugation. "You feel like you can never get out of their control. There's an invisible sense of oppression," he said.

The artist said by wearing the suits he had been transformed into a "monster" with dulled senses.
The artist said by wearing the suits he had been transformed into a "monster" with dulled senses. Credit: Yong Xiong/CNN
The dabai are the foot soldiers of the government's zero-Covid campaign. They include residents who volunteer to help their neighbors during lockdowns, as well as bureaucrats and public health workers carrying out measures that � to outside observers, especially � can border on the absurd.

In cases that have sparked national outcry, unidentified dabai have turned away critically ill patients and heavily pregnant women from hospitals, herded residents onto late-night buses headed for quarantine camps, and entered into empty homes to disinfect furniture and appliances.
"They might be ordinary people or your neighbors. But once they put on the dabai suit, they become an estranged manager, an emotionless machine," Wu said.

The cost of zero-Covid

Wu was living in Beijing in late 2019, when the world's first coronavirus outbreak was emerging more than 600 miles away in Wuhan, central China. He recalled his burning anger over the death of Li Wenliang � the whistleblower doctor who was accused of rumor-mongering by police for trying to warn the public about the virus � and his sense of powerlessness amid the sweeping censorship that followed.
He was locked down in Beijing for two weeks, filled with anxiety and fear for the future. But the Covid situation in China soon improved. By April, the outbreaks had been largely contained, and life returned to some kind of normalcy.

Wu was helped by his assistant to break free from the suits.
Wu was helped by his assistant to break free from the suits. Credit: Yong Xiong/CNN
Wu was admitted to a graduate program in Chicago, but due to China's border closure and America's ban on flights from the country, he had to take his classes online. State media reports at the time were trumpeting the success of China's Covid control efforts while highlighting surging infections and deaths abroad and warning of the severe consequences of long Covid. Wu was so afraid of catching the virus that by the time he arrived in the US in August 2021, masks had "become a part of my skin," he said.
It didn't take long for Wu, who was vaccinated, to overcome his fear: he ended up catching Covid and was fortunate enough to quickly recover from his cold-like symptoms. Meanwhile, the restrictions in China became increasingly stringent following the arrival of the highly infectious Omicron variant.

From Chicago, he followed news of Shanghai's two-month lockdown, the late-night bus crash that killed 27 people being taken to a Covid quarantine facility in Guizhou, and many other reported costs of the zero-Covid policy, from the shuttering of businesses to the surging unemployment rate. The artist's own family and friends have also been impacted.
Wu's father, a professor in an eastern province, was punished by his university for fleeing an imminent lockdown and driving back to his Beijing home without his employer's approval. His mother was prevented from visiting his ill grandmother due to travel restrictions. Many of Wu's friends in the art industry lost their jobs, as galleries and exhibitions closed amid ongoing lockdowns.

"All these costs are born by every Chinese person, as tiny and inconsequential as specks of dust," he said.

Video shows rare protest in Beijing against zero Covid and Xi Jinping

Compelled to act

Wu, who studied at the prestigious Central Academy of Fine Arts in Beijing, has previously used mixed-media installations, sculpture and photography to explore issues facing today's China. He decided to speak out against China's zero-Covid policy by staging his Times Square performance on October 16 � the opening day of the Chinese Communist Party's 20th National Congress, the most important event on the country's political calendar.
Many of Wu's friends who work in the art sector have lost their jobs. "The art industry (galleries and exhibitions) has been cut down first during the pandemic because it's considered irrelevant and useless to the country's economy.
Many of Wu's friends who work in the art sector have lost their jobs. "The art industry (galleries and exhibitions) has been cut down first during the pandemic because it's considered irrelevant and useless to the country's economy. Credit: Yong Xiong/CNN
Such a performance would be unthinkable in China, where artists have faced increasingly stringent censorship since leader Xi Jinping came to power in 2012. But staging it in New York could also carry risks for Wu and his family.

The artist said he was worried about his parents' safety back in China, fearing they could be subjected to potential retaliation from the government. But he said he nonetheless felt compelled to proceed with the project and to express years' worth of suppressed emotions toward zero-Covid.

On Sunday, Xi defended his Covid policy, insisting it has "maximally protected people's lives and health" and "balanced epidemic prevention and control with economic and social development."
Some analysts took this as a sign that China is unlikely to relax its pandemic restrictions anytime soon. To Wu, China's insistence on zero-Covid is directly tied to its political environment.

"I feel like (the government's) power is ever-growing, becoming bigger and bigger like a giant," he said. "And as individuals, our feelings and emotions will be increasingly submerged as we become tinier and tinier."

At what cost???

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Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

How is wearing a hazmat suit in one of the most disease ridden places on earth an argument against covid measures

# ? Oct 20, 2022 09:28

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

he's wearing the hazmat suit ironically

# ? Oct 20, 2022 09:28

Zodium: Jun 19, 2004

mawarannahr posted:

Lmao https://twitter.com/yongxiong2008/status/1582635148553879552

At what cost???

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# ? Oct 20, 2022 09:54

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pretty sure he would have been comfortable and fine if he just wore 1 hazmat suit? you know, like the chinese doctors and government personnel do?

# ? Oct 20, 2022 10:04

BEAR GRYLLZ: Jul 30, 2006; I have strong erections for Israel.
Strong, pathetic erections.

wow, when i drink 27 times the recommended daily amount of water i loving die

this is a clear demonstration of the dangers of the liberal capitalist system that suggests this amount of water consumption

# ? Oct 20, 2022 10:07

Corky Romanovsky: Oct 1, 2006; Soiled Meat

It's a Kung Fu movie reference

# ? Oct 20, 2022 10:23

Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Uhmm hello? He's an artist ok? So like, it's like, a statement! Like, you know, art? Not surprised you all wouldn't get it.

# ? Oct 20, 2022 10:27

Mantis42: Jul 26, 2010

he's actually purposely infected himself with all the world's strongest covid variants and is breeding them to be able to exfiltrate hazmat suits.

# ? Oct 20, 2022 10:31

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my people cry out for the freedom to die en masse from the pandemic

# ? Oct 20, 2022 10:47

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

EDIT: wrong thread but whatever

gradenko_2000 has issued a correction as of 11:52 on Oct 20, 2022

# ? Oct 20, 2022 10:51

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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1582946256716013569?t=K3xYkiHOUYaoWBskSFUyNw&s=19

I call for a UN investigation

# ? Oct 20, 2022 11:39

ModernMajorGeneral: Jun 25, 2010

Mantis42 posted:

he's actually purposely infected himself with all the world's strongest covid variants and is breeding them to be able to exfiltrate hazmat suits.

he has a job ready for him making western covid policy, being an artist is tough work

# ? Oct 20, 2022 11:44

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# ? Oct 20, 2022 11:48

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crepeface posted:

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1582946256716013569?t=K3xYkiHOUYaoWBskSFUyNw&s=19

I call for a UN investigation

i first read this as investing in child labor and wasn't even particularly surprised

# ? Oct 20, 2022 11:50

my dad: Oct 17, 2012; this shall be humorous

gradenko_2000 posted:

EDIT: wrong thread but whatever

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# ? Oct 20, 2022 13:39

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# ? Oct 20, 2022 13:40

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Zodium: Jun 19, 2004

stephenthinkpad posted:

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# ? Oct 20, 2022 17:41

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this allusion meant: Apr 9, 2006

https://twitter.com/zachsdorfman/status/1583117988667879424?s=46&t=8CG3ODMrdSPNog5r4dXnUQ

In one previously unreported case, around 2019, proponents of a big-data program at the Department of Homeland Security sought to create digital dossiers of every Chinese exchange student in the United States. But officials scrapped the initiative over fears of accusations of racial profiling and worries over a lack of legal cover for the program, according to three current and former U.S. officials and individuals briefed on the initiative.
Advocates of the program, dubbed �Steady Stare� by DHS officials, pitched it to members of Congress, National Security Council staff, and the U.S. intelligence community. At least one senior official from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence participated in discussions surrounding the initiative, according to an individual briefed on the proposed big data program -- a good indicator of how seriously at least some in the administration were taking the initiative.
DHS officials wanted to build a deck of �baseball cards on all the [Chinese] students that were in the U.S., trying to understand relative risk and threat levels,� this person said. �They were trying to prove the model, because they were going to need a massive amount of resources to do the most rudimentary baseball cards on the [more than] 300,000 Chinese students� studying in the U.S. every year. (The Department of Homeland Security did not return a request for comment.)
But the program�s mastermind at DHS, which has oversight authorities related to visa violations, �just wanted to run it like J. Edgar Hoover would run it,� this source recalled. �And I was just like, �Dude, you�re not going to get away with this. This is one Washington Post story away from going bye-bye.��
In the eyes of the program�s backers, however, Steady Stare helped fill a critical gap in national security: tracking Chinese students who were potentially �breaking the spirit� of their visas by sharing their U.S.-based research work with interested parties in China, even though they were not necessarily violating any U.S. laws, says a current national security official. (Academic research, even in areas that aren�t national-security related, often has valuable commercial applications, and isn�t always subject to laws governing intellectual property.) Steady Stare was designed to spot patterns that could help DHS officials pinpoint potential future visa violations, according to the current official. It was about �develop[ing] a risk matrix� for foreign students�Chinese and as well as others�this official said.
The program's existence�if not the details about what it actually entailed�weren�t all that closely held. In a 2019 Senate Finance Committee hearing, a senior DHS official, Louis A. Rodi III, described Steady Stare as �a proactive and holistic agency effort to target and prevent the potential illicit procurement and theft of technology and intellectual property by foreign students, researchers, and professors.� Steady Stare grew out of a foreign student monitoring program at DHS called �Domestic Mantis,� which had been in operation since 2016, Rodi said. And the initiative had recently expanded to an all-DHS effort focused on foreign academics and researchers known as the �Stellar Sunrise Project,� according to Rodi.
Out of the over 300,000 Chinese students in the United States, Steady Stare sought to identify and track a much smaller number that Trump officials believed to be engaging in improper behaviors. One data point officials considered suspicious: Chinese graduate students who entered the U.S. on an educational visa to study English or other humanities subjects, but soon switched to degree programs in robotics or other technology-related fields, a former U.S. official recalled. DHS�s Domestic Mantis program was specifically geared toward better tracking �those nonimmigrant students who entered the United States to study a nonsensitive field of study, and who subsequently changed their field of study to a sensitive area,� according to a 2016 Homeland Security report.
Tracking Chinese students after they enter the country can be difficult, current and former officials said. It isn�t always clear that students are actually enrolled in the programs they have cited in their visa forms. Universities, fearing privacy violations and the specter of McCarthyism, are often loath to share information they possess on students with the FBI or other U.S. government agencies, these officials added.
As part of the initiative, DHS officials associated with Steady Stare lobbied Congress for more power for the agency to keep tabs on Chinese students. �I said, [DHS is] going to need new authorities...if we�re going to take a bite out of this problem,� the current national-security official recalled. �Otherwise, it�s going to be very difficult to do more than what the FBI is already doing, because no one�s breaking the law.�
But although the congressional officials, national-security staffers, and intelligence personnel were �unanimously positive� about the program during briefings by DHS staff, Steady Stare received �passive-aggressive resistance� after the fact, the current U.S. official recalled. Its advocates failed to get the support they needed to advance the initiative beyond its pilot phase. �Everyone was in full agreement and wanted to do pretty much nothing,� this current official said.

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