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cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Also, Lukashenko did complain about his inability to mobilise children for harvesting season, a few days earlier. :belarus:

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Somaen
Nov 19, 2007

by vyelkin

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
^^^
lmao yes seems about right, still making some noise about totally supporting the special operation

Paladinus posted:

Some novel economic regulations will being tested in Belarus. On today's cabinet meeting, Lukashenko was extremely angry, shouted at ministers, and blamed them for high inflation rates and rising cost of living.

'Right off the field, I have to go and ask for gas and oil, and for loans, and then also run to the shops and control the prices? So what the bloody hell do I need you lot for then?!'

As a solution, Lukashenko ordered to prohibit all price hikes, on all products and services. Even his PM Roman Golovchenko tried to cool things off a bit.

'You can have every aspect regulated and overregulated to a T and still get the opposite effect. [...] In Belarus, price regulation is already the toughest in the CIS and one of the toughest in the world.'

Lukashenko didn't want to listen.

'Roman Alexandrovich, let me remind you. You are the Prime Minister of Belarus, not Estonia. Fortunately. And not Latvia or Lithuania. Why should we pay any attention to them?'

As a result, now it's illegal to raise prices without a special approval from the government full stop. Not even if you had something on sale and want to go back to the original price. The Committee of State Control already promise criminal charges for the offenders.
I think Luka just discovered one weird tricks that the economists hate.


cinci zoo sniper posted:

Also, Lukashenko did complain about his inability to mobilise children for harvesting season, a few days earlier. :belarus:
Is his son too old to be mobilized for the battle for the harvest? That's a shame.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Such a classic childhood excuse too lol, "yeah mate i need to finish peeling potatoes and then i'll probably come out"

Somaen
Nov 19, 2007

by vyelkin
I heard he's now done with potatoes but there's a big pile of shoelaces that need ironing

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
I do wonder how long he can keep this up.

I like to imagine he's doing this in private talks with Putin too. You'd expect them to talk about the actual reason Luka doesn't want to get actively involved, but it's a lot funnier to imagine they don't.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Antigravitas posted:

I do wonder how long he can keep this up.

I like to imagine he's doing this in private talks with Putin too. You'd expect them to talk about the actual reason Luka doesn't want to get actively involved, but it's a lot funnier to imagine they don't.

There’s a summit in St. Petersburg today, I think, so we’ll see how that goes.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




https://twitter.com/tv3zinas/status/1578077629558788097

Would be funny if she loses her seat in the parliament before getting sworn in.

Edit: Apparently, she has also lied about her education, and she has also threatened some firewood-related company with payback after she gets into the parliament.

cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Oct 7, 2022

Iceache
Jul 9, 2009
The firewood-related company is the one that she reported she was working as an advisor. And when the company owner contacted her to change the false information she started to threaten them. Such a great start for such a great political party.

https://eng.lsm.lv/article/politics/politics/new-saeima-deputy-may-have-lied-about-her-workplace.a477001/

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




cinci zoo sniper posted:

https://twitter.com/tv3zinas/status/1578077629558788097

Would be funny if she loses her seat in the parliament before getting sworn in.

Edit: Apparently, she has also lied about her education, and she has also threatened some firewood-related company with payback after she gets into the parliament.

https://twitter.com/karlis_arajs/status/1578376583743668224

:allears:

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




https://www.lsm.lv/raksts/zinas/lat...karins.a477214/

Heh, I had entirely missed that NA+AS would outnumber JV. The formation of this coalition is going to be a real shitshow, and I would be unsurprised to see AS go the KPV way in the long run. Also, NA can gently caress right off with saying that JV-AS-NA would be “centrist, but with PRO - a centre-left coalition”.

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

cinci zoo sniper posted:

Also, NA can gently caress right off (..)

:hmmyes:

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013





I mean, this is the the extra gently caress you, ar štovētiem kāpostiem

Tuna-Fish
Sep 13, 2017

In retrospect, it would have been much preferable for both JV and Pro for AP! to have skated to just above the threshold. Right now, a JV-AS-NA government is possible although unfavorable to JV, but there's not really much they can do to force their partners to take a 4th wheel. If AP! had made it above the threshold, Pro would have 1-2 seats less, but the larger parties would lose enough for JV-AS-NA to be impossible, and then they'd have to get an another partner, and in those negotiations Pro might have had a very strong hand.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Tuna-Fish posted:

In retrospect, it would have been much preferable for both JV and Pro for AP! to have skated to just above the threshold. Right now, a JV-AS-NA government is possible although unfavorable to JV, but there's not really much they can do to force their partners to take a 4th wheel. If AP! had made it above the threshold, Pro would have 1-2 seats less, but the larger parties would lose enough for JV-AS-NA to be impossible, and then they'd have to get an another partner, and in those negotiations Pro might have had a very strong hand.

The thing is that AS-NA cannot do anything to force JV to sign paper. The only “viable” non-JV coalition is AS-ZZS-NA-LPV, which would require AS to rejoin ZZS basically, betraying their whole party platform, and the end result of this would be somewhere between the 2009 riots and the 2011 election (ask yourself how a country doing 4-year election cycle since 1998 has an election in an odd year). Consequently, neither NA, not AS, nor ZZS feel particularly brave about stepping forward and saying “we’ll hash out a coalition”.

If no government gets established for a while, the parliament can get fired - either via a cumbersome popular vote procedure, or via the president calling a referendum to fire the parliament. The way this referendum works is that if more than 50% of voters vote “yes”, the parliament is fired, but if the majority does not support the notion, the president is fired instead. 2011 was a case of the president firing the parliament through that procedure.

As it stands, I think no one wants to allow that. While the president is not the most popular one, he’s more popular than the one who fired the parliament in 2011, and traditionally the president as an institute has greater public trust than the parliament. And if that happens, the easiest bets to make is that PRO mobilise to get more votes, S and A/P mobilise to get into the parliament, and possibly even K. All of that would just dilute NA, and JV-A/P-PRO would have fewer difficulties into strong arming NA into a coalition as a minority partner.

In general though, A/P falling out by literal 250 votes was a very preventable headache, as far as anyone not keen on a conservative government is concerned. They simply had to be a bit less arrogant on the last week, and to solicit any at all feedback on their party programme.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
in unexpected fallout news

https://twitter.com/ADoolotkeldieva/status/1579661330373816321

in other news, FRUIT TOWERS

https://twitter.com/NigoraFazliddin/status/1578744298266562560

Sekenr
Dec 12, 2013




Well, the russians made a deepfake tv show with Keanu Reeves and Jason Stathem.
https://youtu.be/963RktwsREo

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
despite the earlier fruit pyramid gift, Rahmon is MAD. Putin is doodling.

https://twitter.com/Peter__Leonard/status/1581023660189822976

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




https://twitter.com/lv_votes/status/1581582709855424513

Hmmm. Simultaneously, PRO seems to be surprisingly aggressively fighting for a spot in the coalition, e.g., https://nra.lv/latvija/politika/394271-partija-progresivie-izsutijusi-nacionalas-apvienibas-parstavjiem-oficialu-ielugumu-uz-tiksanos.htm going as far as trying to meet up with NA to discuss things from the proposed angle of PRO being the boring auditors of this would-be coalition.

On the other hand, Rajevskis is a knowledgeable guy - a boomer mentally, but an erudite nonetheless. And he’s not too keen to bet on PRO making it. https://leta.lv/home/important/2C65B73F-0721-4618-B994-41BF68C51536/

Overall, I think A/P’s attitude towards the election did easily cost them the 250 votes they missed to enter the parliament, and that is going to mean a 4-8 year setback for making any at all progress on social issues in Latvia. Good loving job, clowns.

VSOKUL girl posted:

despite the earlier fruit pyramid gift, Rahmon is MAD. Putin is doodling.

https://twitter.com/Peter__Leonard/status/1581023660189822976

Central Asia going to be spicy for a while I feel - especially if Russia’s war success has peaked by now, which I feel it has.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




https://twitter.com/lsmlv/status/1582008509725491200

:laffo: Court has taken away S!’s right to use their ticker for commercial activities, because it clashes with a municipal trademark of our “little Switzerland” resort region.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

VSOKUL girl posted:

despite the earlier fruit pyramid gift, Rahmon is MAD. Putin is doodling.

https://twitter.com/Peter__Leonard/status/1581023660189822976

This seems pretty significant. What a fall for Putin to have to sit there and get lectured like a school boy.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Torrannor posted:

This seems pretty significant. What a fall for Putin to have to sit there and get lectured like a school boy.

that was already well established by (almost?) every leader at the last few summits making him sit around waiting for photo ops (or, if you're RIA, gladly noting that Putin arrived early, as he's so notoriously punctual for these things)

commentary after is that rahmon is actually expressing, in a strange, incoherent fashion, that he alone is still Putin's friend in the region https://twitter.com/eurasianet/status/1582100384453099547, and that Russia should grant Tajikistan special favor. granted, he wouldn't be saying it this fashion in pre-2022, but hey, he's not wrong! he probably is the least averse to Putin over the last year, excluding dark horse Neutral Turkmenistan (which is, of course, still neutral, and still more preoccupied with banning abortion and sending all its exports to China)

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

VSOKUL girl posted:

dark horse Neutral Turkmenistan

drat i just found out niyazov's successor moved the "neutrality monument" out to the burbs. i bet it doesn't even spin anymore

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Paladinus posted:

As a solution, Lukashenko ordered to prohibit all price hikes, on all products and services.

A little follow-up on this. After arresting about a dozen of store owners for the crime of raising prices, the decision was deemed to have always been temporary, and a new law is now in place. It limits price hikes only on specific* goods, mostly food, for all manufacturers, distributors, and local stores. Compared to the original blanket ban, restaurants, for example, can now raise prices freely, apart from the cases where they ship their food to stores. The rest will have to approve prices with local governmental committees. The last two weeks were extremely chaotic, some imported goods had to be pulled off the shelves to avoid large losses, and now at least they seem to be back in all their unregulated glory. The law is still not very realistic and supply issues with imported goods, especially fruits and veg, whose price is seasonal, are unavoidable, unless they change things up again after another dozen of criminal cases.

*The list is actually fairly vague, and not even officials can answer some very basic questions. At the press conference with business representatives, someone asked if a salad grown from different seeds can be considered a new product with its own price or has to be sold at the same price as a salad that's already in store, and the official just waffled for two minutes about how all salads are essentially the same in response, and suggested to send the question in later in writing. There is also little clarity on how the price should be set when two shipments of the same item can have different prices. Officials say they should be sold at the lowest price, but there is nothing in the law to stipulate this.

with a rebel yell she QQd
Jan 18, 2007

Villain


Somaen
Nov 19, 2007

by vyelkin
Is that really him? No blue checkmark

From yesterday, protests against him:
https://twitter.com/dw_russian/status/1584508751293296640

This week the ECB is probably going to raise the interest rate another 0.75% and man countries with week economies are not going to be in a good place

with a rebel yell she QQd
Jan 18, 2007

Villain


Somaen posted:

Is that really him? No blue checkmark

https://www.twitter.com/pm_viktororban

He joined recently.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
Woops:
https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1584650474967269376
...Macron apparently gifted the Pope a book that had a Polish pre-WW2 stamp of the Academic Library of Lviv (or Lwow, I guess, in context).

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Looks like JV-AS-NA coalition is a go. Pretty sure we’re getting a traditional Latvian government out of this (lifetime expectancy of less than 2 years, it’s abnormal for our governments to survive intact from election to an election). AS is already looking shady as hell, so I’m going to call it that they’re going to KPV themselves over the course of the 14th Saeima. Not sure who’s winning from that, though.

busalover
Sep 12, 2020
I just finished Adam Curtis' Traumazone, a look at the transition from communism to capitalism in Russia. It ends with the introduction of Putin in 1999, so my question is, is there a documentary out there that charts Putin's ascent at the beginning of the millenium?

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

busalover posted:

I just finished Adam Curtis' Traumazone, a look at the transition from communism to capitalism in Russia. It ends with the introduction of Putin in 1999, so my question is, is there a documentary out there that charts Putin's ascent at the beginning of the millenium?

Putin’s Witnesses is a good one. It starts right on the New Year's Eve and mostly consists of the footage filmed at the time, so it should continue seamlessly from where Traumazone left off.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level

busalover posted:

I just finished Adam Curtis' Traumazone, a look at the transition from communism to capitalism in Russia. It ends with the introduction of Putin in 1999, so my question is, is there a documentary out there that charts Putin's ascent at the beginning of the millenium?

Man without a face by Masha Gessen

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

busalover posted:

I just finished Adam Curtis' Traumazone, a look at the transition from communism to capitalism in Russia. It ends with the introduction of Putin in 1999, so my question is, is there a documentary out there that charts Putin's ascent at the beginning of the millenium?

all hail gonzo porno cat, and thank god they eschewed the voiceover and put the focus almost entirely on the found footage

seconding Putin's Witnesses. Rodnye and Pipeline are also interesting portraits of the era.

book-wise, Politkovskaya's works are easy reads and cover a good mix of political events and everyday peoples' encounters with the state. Dawisha's Putin's Kleptocracy is, IIRC, very focused on that era (and Putin's time in the St. Petersburg municipal government beforehand), but also incredibly academic and dry. Soldatov and Borogan's The New Nobility covers the expansion and activities of the security services during the period. Hoffman's The Oligarchs is more about the Gorbachev and Yeltsin eras, but it's so enjoyable im including it here anyway.

comedy option: the only video content you need about the era is old kukly episodes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZJx9bgwdv0

ed: someone on twitter reminded me a while back that there's an earlier BBC doc following Zhirinovsky on the campaign trail, which is also from the 90s, but worth a watch if you enjoyed Traumazone (it even shares some footage!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvrMUlOR76w

Qtotonibudinibudet fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Oct 26, 2022

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Coalition talks update: PRO is bowing out, following JV’s failed attempt to guilt trip PRO into being a fall guy of the coalition. JV now is throwing the gauntlet down towards others nevertheless, with an ultimatum of a new ministry, for environment and energy policy, being created as a precondition for them joining a government.

https://twitter.com/ltvzinas/status/1585215348118282240

If I had to hazard a guess, JV actually doesn’t want to be in this government at all, and would rather see a shitter government formed without them, to combust in flames and take out the constituent parties within 1-2 years.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




E: wrong thread

cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Oct 26, 2022

Anne Frank Funk
Nov 4, 2008

Any sort of stability on a governmental level in EE causes long term adverse effects to a much bigger extent than continuous strife, chaos and strained coalition making. To that effect Cinci, I think your guys are doing great and I wish them perpetual, tortured and fruitless effort.

a podcast for cats
Jun 22, 2005

Dogs reading from an artifact buried in the ruins of our civilization, "We were assholes- " and writing solemnly, "They were assholes."
Soiled Meat
Eh, post election discourse has led to the average temperature of takes on Latvian Twitter to be so hot, we could possibly never need Russian energy again.

Seeing how popular A/PAR was during the pandemic and how well that worked out for the political careers of everyone involved, I agree that PRO may benefit from sitting this one out. Whether the country will is another question, but then again, I'm not sure that PRO has the chops to actually take a seat with both responsibility and authority.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




a podcast for cats posted:

Eh, post election discourse has led to the average temperature of takes on Latvian Twitter to be so hot, we could possibly never need Russian energy again.
My brain is aggressively smoothing into a bowling ball from the slaygate.

quote:

Seeing how popular A/PAR was during the pandemic and how well that worked out for the political careers of everyone involved, I agree that PRO may benefit from sitting this one out. Whether the country will is another question, but then again, I'm not sure that PRO has the chops to actually take a seat with both responsibility and authority.
PRO seems to have weird dichotomy when on one hand people like Selma seem to be so hyper about everything that even I’m turned off at times, as a person who still reads Tumblr and 4chan, but on the other hand there are competent enough people, e.g., Ņenaševa, Briškens, or Logina. Not sure where the two ends meet though, or what kind of horseshoe we get there, if any. The authority story would likely be rough, since I think they don’t quite have anyone to mentor them around on Saeima, the halls of which ought to be laden with some bespoke ivory rakes.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Speaking of Saeima, it looks like one of the last acts of outgoing Saeima is to… kick Ždanoka out of the EP, and put a timer on Ušakovs.

https://saeima.lv/lv/aktualitates/saeimas-zinas/31545-notiesati-eiropas-parlamenta-deputati-zaudes-mandatu

Edit: Oh, actually useful things too. Minimum wage is increasing from 500 euro now to 620 euro in 2023, and then to 700 euro in 2024.

https://saeima.lv/lv/aktualitates/saeimas-zinas/31546-no-nakama-gada-minimala-alga-bus-620-eiro

Edit2: Oh, and DUI is a felony now.

https://twitter.com/letanewslv/status/1585534879273570309

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Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
Kyrgyzstan is living up to its reputation as the most flawed (albeit only, but still quite flawed) democracy in central Asia by locking up a bunch of civil society activists under dubious pretenses of fomenting revolt, which is a bit rich coming from Japarov. there is discontent over ongoing border negotiations with Uzbekistan that may cede control over a major reservoir (water rights are consistently a sensitive issue throughout the region). they've also blocked RFERL!

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