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Idk I feel like they’ve emphasized your trade empire enough that there’s no way there isn’t some mini game built around it.
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Anno posted:Idk I feel like they’ve emphasized your trade empire enough that there’s no way there isn’t some mini game built around it. The minigame is actually 3d version of battleship with rpg/progression elements
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Aug 6, 2022 12:10
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Yeah I'm thinking they're probably going for both. Manage your trade empire like the kingdom in Kingmaker Command your fleet against the enemy like the battles in WotR
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Aug 6, 2022 12:33
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Of all the things they overreach for and make too complicated, it's the Managment stuff. Kingmaker was too complex with too many moving parts that could gently caress up your game long term. Crusade mode was a poorly designed HM&M that had no real strategy or flexibility. Your only reasonable options for combat were to stack archers like crazy and focus exclusively on DPS characters because high defense characters didn't really have the ability to draw aggro or do anything that mattered. The unique units were trash too because you weren't going to get them in a stack large enough to make it worth replacing anything. Also you pretty much had to take a general with a magic attack, or that act 2 battle against gargoyles would be impossible.
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I do give them points for ambition. If the kingdom management and crusades were entirely optional and linked with picking a specific main character this would be SaGa game worthy.
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I just fail to understand how they realized the problems in Kingmaker with the Auto mode possible causing a game ending state, and then managed to do the same with certain mythic paths for the Crusade mode. If anything, they should just left the battles only on auto-win and let you handle all the decision management choices.
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pentyne posted:I just fail to understand how they realized the problems in Kingmaker with the Auto mode possible causing a game ending state, and then managed to do the same with certain mythic paths for the Crusade mode. If anything, they should just left the battles only on auto-win and let you handle all the decision management choices. We know they’re working on the crusade for either the EE or a future patch, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that option was added along with the rebalance.
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Aug 8, 2022 12:38
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IGN had an article on alpha gameplay impressions, kinda interesting to see how they're building the combat system: https://www.ign.com/articles/warhammer-40000-rogue-trader-preview-rpg-combat
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I think going an XCOM-like route in terms of cover/shooting mechanics with the depth of a cRPG in terms of skills, abilities, and so on, is a pretty good way to go. I really don't love the idea of hewing close to a tabletop RPG system for singleplayer cRPGs, especially combat systems as bad as the 40k tabletop systems seemed to use.
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Sep 8, 2022 02:07
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Yeah that's actually really cool. I like that it's a defined grid, too.
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Sep 8, 2022 02:13
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Finally, the dnd 4e videogame.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Finally, the dnd 4e videogame. World of Warcraft came out in 2004 though?!? for real though that all sounds quite promising, I’m very glad they’re doing a less-than-perfectly-straight adaptation of 40k RPG mechanics
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Solid week or so for 40K video game music https://twitter.com/OwlcatGames/status/1583111070373191680 Also, Sister of Battle companion. https://twitter.com/OwlcatGames/status/1582386285464866817 
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The theme is pretty good, but a bit different than I expected
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quote:But what led the young sister away from her duties as a guardian of the reliquary? Was it a holy epiphany or a fall from grace? This remains a tightly held secret… Sister of Battle is an odd choice for a game that is going to let you recruit non-human allies. Space Wolf not as much because they're really only in it for the fight and loving hate the inquisition so that wouldn't be a hindrance. How they're going to work in the Eldar sniper and the Tau Ethereal(priest-ish looking one) will take some creativity. The whole human party members part of this game is going to be an interesting aspect of this game if they really do let you go full chaos. As a note, I'm going to assume Owlcat knows that evil and chaos don't have to be synonymous and as a Rogue Trader you would be able to do a ton of 'evil' stuff that is still completely allowed by Imperium law and practices in the heartlands of the empire much less in the wild west equivalent. Or, you know, full Ork merc party.
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I assume that the Sister of Battle and the zenos companions are going to be mutually exclusive.
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pentyne posted:Sister of Battle is an odd choice for a game that is going to let you recruit non-human allies. Space Wolf not as much because they're really only in it for the fight and loving hate the inquisition so that wouldn't be a hindrance. How they're going to work in the Eldar sniper and the Tau Ethereal(priest-ish looking one) will take some creativity. they are including a Sister of Battle, I think we can rest assured 'horrifically evil things the imperium has no problem with' are on the table good character art, too, 'smile that is not going to shift in even the slightest way when they set you on fire' is a hard ask to deliver on
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That background text does suggest that she's not formally part of the Ecclesiarchy anymore by the time she joins you, so that might be enough of an excuse for her to nominally tolerate Xeno crewmates. It's not entirely without precedent either, these days there's at least one more high-profile Sister who outright pals around with an Eldar to better murder Chaos, Ephrael Stern, though she's also hunted by the Inquisition for it.
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In general the Inquisition/Church is going to be the only real problem if you are dealing with Xenos in any capacity beyond murdering the poo poo out of them. I'm sure some nosey Inquisitor will show up for some side quest or another. The whole region+trading houses precludes most of the typical Ecclesiarch and Ordos Xenos from really getting up to too much trouble for anyone with enough $$$ to throw around.
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I'm definitely going full blood and fire Imperium loyalist the first time though.
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I am thinking whatever makes sense as being the most profitable that does not involve Chaos.
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The most recent rpg had ways for the empire to team up with some xenos.
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we can have a little Ynnari cooperation, as a treat
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And of course, the reply to finding the first female character (I think) is "WAIFU FOUND!"
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SirFozzie posted:And of course, the reply to finding the first female character (I think) is "WAIFU FOUND!" This is the 3d one they have showcased
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SirFozzie posted:And of course, the reply to finding the first female character (I think) is "WAIFU FOUND!" There's been two before Argenta, an Unsanctioned Psyker, Idira Tlass and your Navigator, Cassia Orsellio. There's also the Trader the player gains their commission from, Theodora von Valancius, but she's probably a tutorial companion at most.
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pentyne posted:Or, you know, full Ork 
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pentyne posted:In general the Inquisition/Church is going to be the only real problem if you are dealing with Xenos in any capacity beyond murdering the poo poo out of them. The only portion of the Inquisition guaranteed to go ballistic over any Xenos interactions would be Puritanical Ordo Xenos members. More centralized ones, and particularly Radicals, are very much going to take it on a case-by-case basis (or even potentially actively encourage it in the latter case), and other segments of the Inquisition are generally only going to care inasmuch as it pertains to their own focuses. The Ecclesiarchy is a different matter, but has far less official enforcement power in the first place. From the description the SIster will likely have conflicts with any Xenos people you recruit. Said conflicts escalating to lethal levels certainly isn't impossible (shades of certain Baldur's Gate party compositions, for one example), but probably won't be inevitable. Ultimately though you're a Rogue Trader and have very large degrees of latitude in pursuing your job - an Inquisitor has the right to officially sanction you, but a random Ecclesiarchy member does not. Unless there's a way to corrupt her though, she's absolutely going to try and shoot you if you go the full Chaos route (same with the Space Wolf and likely the Eldar Ranger).
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It kind of begs the question, if you go full chaos do the companions either leave/fight you or will there be a way to slowly 'taint' them during the playthrough before you go full mask off Chaos god worship. Otherwise it's either generics to fill space or maybe you just get chaos themed versions of your party members in the form of chaos daemons.
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Lord Koth posted:Ultimately though you're a Rogue Trader and have very large degrees of latitude in pursuing your job - an Inquisitor has the right to officially sanction you, but a random Ecclesiarchy member does not. Yeah, isn't the point that a Rogue Trader is kind of allowed to deal with xenos to some degree(barring the deadlier exceptions)? They're explorers, it's in the job description. If the Emperor says its ok then who has the right to complain? Nephthys fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Oct 20, 2022 |
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Hellbore posted:There's been two before Argenta, an Unsanctioned Psyker, Idira Tlass and your Navigator, Cassia Orsellio. There's also the Trader the player gains their commission from, Theodora von Valancius, but she's probably a tutorial companion at most. I hope they find a way to pass you the torch and keep her around (though I don’t expect it) because she looks rad 
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pentyne posted:It kind of begs the question, if you go full chaos do the companions either leave/fight you or will there be a way to slowly 'taint' them during the playthrough before you go full mask off Chaos god worship. Probably. Owlcat's previous game had extremes of character path like this. I'd guess this one will feature options to corrupt/kill companions as you go down Chaos or renegade pathways. The lich mythic path from Pathfinder 2 involved turning some companions into undead thralls and others leaving you because you're a monster now.
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In theory, beyond the boundaries of the Imperium proper, within the remit granted by the Writ of Trade, a Rogue Trader speaks with the Emperor’s Voice and is not subordinate to the Inquisition. In practice, this depends on 1) How much power and influence the Rogue Trader has, 2) how much power and influence the Inquisitor has, and 3) Whether or not either side thinks they can get away with trying to flex on the other.
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Preechr posted:In theory, beyond the boundaries of the Imperium proper, within the remit granted by the Writ of Trade, a Rogue Trader speaks with the Emperor’s Voice and is not subordinate to the Inquisition. In practice, this depends on 1) How much power and influence the Rogue Trader has, 2) how much power and influence the Inquisitor has, and 3) Whether or not either side thinks they can get away with trying to flex on the other. once in a while you get an Inquisitor who was given a Writ of Trade as a very expensive "please get the hell out of my house and go be someone else's problem." there are very few points of agreement between Rogue Traders and Inquisitors, and one of them is god, gently caress those guys.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:once in a while you get an Inquisitor who was given a Writ of Trade as a very expensive "please get the hell out of my house and go be someone else's problem." there are very few points of agreement between Rogue Traders and Inquisitors, and one of them is god, gently caress those guys. Given a writ by who?
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The Imperium is falling apart on every level, and doesn't function on codified laws so much as "Yeah, that sounds about right." So given a warrant by anyone who seems like they might have the authority to do so, and won't be challenged on it. If I run a ttrpg game of Rogue Trader again, I intend the players to learn if they ever open the stasis vault it's kept in that their warrant is a forgery. But they're rich and powerful so as long as they don't piss off someone richer and more powerful, it's just ignored.
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Isn't this supposed to take place in the modern 40k setting? Where the current ruler has had the ally with Eldar multiple times?
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1) its probably not super current, and might even be pre fall of cadia, and 2) the emperor doesn't make those calls and never has, on account of he is a rotting corpse. The only eldar/Imperium alliances have been in moments of convenience and never as a broad mandate, just individuals and small groups across planets and stuff. Rogue Traders are specifically noteworthy for making alliances with individual xenos last for a while. A sister of battle likely wouldn't care though.
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There are basically two kinds or Writ of Trade, "modern" versions handed out by the Administratum in the Emperor's name and the original Writs, signed by the Emperor Himself. If your family has one of those original Writs, you're basically untouchable by the regular levers of power in the Imperium, since your actions are sanctioned by the Emperor Himself. That doesn't mean that a particularly zealous Inquisitor might not take exception have work to try and have you destroyed if you offend their sensibilities enough.
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CommissarMega posted:
ENCYCLOPEDIA: Your mangled brain would like you to know that there is a Primarch called Contact Mike.
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