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I'm still plodding through the book on the early American Revolution. I enjoyed this bit about British general Henry Clintonquote:Rational, dignified, and brainy, he also could be tetchy, insecure, and obsessive—a “shy bitch,” as he called himself.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Eeeewww don't recommend Barbara Tuchman you're literally the first person I've ever heard who doesn't like Tuchman I'm interested to hear your take, Teriyaki Hairpiece
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I enjoyed The Guns of August, but that's the very first part of the war.
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The Proud Tower is also good imo. But that and Guns of August are all I've read from her.
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Filthy Hans posted:you're literally the first person I've ever heard who doesn't like Tuchman
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What is your historical movie/tv show dream? I want a 13 episode miniseries about the Solomons campaign that alternates between an American perspective, a Japanese perspective, and a Guadalcanal islander perspective.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:What is your historical movie/tv show dream? I want a 13 episode miniseries about the Solomons campaign that alternates between an American perspective, a Japanese perspective, and a Guadalcanal islander perspective. I want a miniseries about the Russian Revolution starring Leonardo DiCaprio as Lenin
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Robert Caro's Master of the Senate cinematic universe
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vyelkin posted:I want a miniseries about the Russian Revolution starring Leonardo DiCaprio as Lenin i say swears online posted:battle of blair mountain with a giant himbo cast
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i just want hbo's rome, again, but with season two expanded by about 30 more episodes but i'd settle for a russian revolution thing if we could get it without liberal brain poison (this wouldn't happen though)
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Already filmed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-XPxlVuMJU&t=160s Timestamped for some genuine Orson Welles.
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Fall of Eagles actually had a pretty decent rendering of the initial Bolshevik-Menshevik rift in the RSDLP except for when they (as far as I could tell) purposefully conflated Vera Zasulich getting ousted from the Iskra board in 1903 with Maria Spiridonova pledging to return to narodnik-style assassinations after the Left-SR central committee decided Brest-Litovsk had betrayed the revolution by the summer of 1918. As far as I can tell the writers just did this to make Lenin look power-mad but it was just some wild "creative license" they took there. Otherwise a pretty solid miniseries though. They do a few other eye-raising things like that with Lenin, but it was definitely a more sympathetic portrayal than I would have expected from a BBC show. I got the impression they must have used Krupskaya's memoirs as a main source for the episodes that focused on the Bolsheviks.
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R. Mute posted:this or a hbo's rome-esque show about the french revolution, tbh oh yeah i'd definitely watch an anthology from 1789-1815 following a couple bumbling sans-coulottes a la pullo
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did Rome end strong? i think i only saw the first season ages ago
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i say swears online posted:did Rome end strong? i think i only saw the first season ages ago Sort of: they got canceled halfway though season 2 and thus had to wrap up that season and do the entire Octavian-Antony civil war in 6 episodes. Given those constraints (and a recast for an older Antony who's not nearly as good) it came out all right, I'd recommend watching it
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i say swears online posted:did Rome end strong? i think i only saw the first season ages ago coulda been worse
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StashAugustine posted:Sort of: they got canceled halfway though season 2 and thus had to wrap up that season and do the entire Octavian-Antony civil war in 6 episodes. Given those constraints (and a recast for an older Antony who's not nearly as good) it came out all right, I'd recommend watching it
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Oh whoops yeah. Young Octavian is good and the recast is unfortunate but losing Purefoy would have practically killed the show
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:What is your historical movie/tv show dream? edit: maybe it would have to be an hour-long HBO production wrt all the mongooses and wild asses and horny poetry Gravid Topiary has issued a correction as of 04:51 on Oct 22, 2022 |
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:What is your historical movie/tv show dream? I want a 13 episode miniseries about the Solomons campaign that alternates between an American perspective, a Japanese perspective, and a Guadalcanal islander perspective. 6-parter about Cortez' campaign in the New World, preferably a Lars von Trier or Nicholas Winding Refn production So much crazy poo poo happened. The first battle Cortez deployed dogs to great effect, second battle the Aztecs had a plan: they built pit traps and used spears to kill the dogs but they kept them concealed so the Spaniards wouldn't keep the dogs back and deployed the spears right before the dogs got there a la Braveheart. Cortez captured their king, who was revered as a god, and held him for ransom. The Aztecs (sensibly) told him that the fact the king got captured proved he was a false god so Cortez could keep him for all they cared. There were some pitched battles and at one point Cortez' people were besieged in one of the Aztec temples and only survived because the besieging force quickly succumbed to diseases introduced by the Spaniards. The Spaniards' documents show they witnessed mass sacrifices (I think to Xipetotec, which means the sacrifices would have their hearts cut out and then be skinned, symbolizing the fertility of new plants emerging from seeds); they must have felt they landed in biblical hell. By the time the Spaniards finished their conquest millions of Aztecs were dead. This is all according to a history class I took over 20 years ago so I may be conflating or misremembering some events. The whole situation was the worst of humanity on display and it would need a real nihilist auteur at the helm to do the story justice.
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Oliver Stone directing an adaptation of The Devil's Chessboard, with Michael Shannon in the title role Comedy option: Michael Bay's The Jakarta Method
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Gravid Topiary posted:single-camera sitcom set in a Sumerian temple complex, all temple prostitutes and lamentation priests getting into hi-jinks and stuff Armando Iannucci's Enkidu
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Filthy Hans posted:Cortez https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narv%C3%A1ez_expedition cabeza de vaca would be way more fun if we have to choose a conquistador
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i say swears online posted:Armando Iannucci's Enkidu Armando Iannucci does the Year of the Five Emperors The part where they bid for Emperor would be loving hilarious
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:What is your historical movie/tv show dream? I want a 13 episode miniseries about the Solomons campaign that alternates between an American perspective, a Japanese perspective, and a Guadalcanal islander perspective. Buddy cop procedural set in warlord period china Landsknecht anti-band-of-brothers
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i say swears online posted:Armando Iannucci's Enkidu Armando Iannucci's Cuban missile crisis with Steve Buscemi as Kruchev.
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the office but about ea-nasir
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:What is your historical movie/tv show dream? I want a 13 episode miniseries about the Solomons campaign that alternates between an American perspective, a Japanese perspective, and a Guadalcanal islander perspective. A series about the life of Jan Janszoon van Haarlem aka Murat Reis. Seriously, read this dude’s bio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Janszoon
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Anything set before the Iron Age would be cool although almost everything made until now has been poo poo. And of course the wars of the diadochi which seems to be high up on people's lists pretty often.
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A more serious answer: Probably the life and adventures of Sokollu Mehmed-Pasha, ideally not made by Turkey.
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was this thread talking about odd westad? whats the general consensus about their books?
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:What is your historical movie/tv show dream? I want a 13 episode miniseries about the Solomons campaign that alternates between an American perspective, a Japanese perspective, and a Guadalcanal islander perspective. after the Age of Napoleon episode about it, I'd love a good Battle of Trafalgar movie
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Suplex Liberace posted:was this thread talking about odd westad? whats the general consensus about their books? i read his cold war survey book and it didnt strike me as awful
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Suplex Liberace posted:was this thread talking about odd westad? whats the general consensus about their books? No book or author is perfect but his books are among the best available if you want to understand the Cold War as a global conflict.
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ok thats good to know i found a cheap copy of his book on china restless empire i will check it out
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Slavvy posted:Buddy cop procedural set in warlord period china Bridge of Birds would be difficult to turn into a film but kickin' rad if they managed it.
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