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Palladium
May 8, 2012

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KomradeX posted:

Do you think he remembers saying that? Like is someone asked him now about him saying that would he have any clue what is being talked about?

youngsters: really feeling all your precious democracy as i give 100 hrs/week of wages to landlords

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Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

DSA 2

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011



it's good now wolf howl

the white hand
Nov 12, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


your #1 choice for patty murray-based divorce

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

I'm gonna wait for DSA Classic

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/PodSaveAmerica/status/1584685971429560320?s=20&t=sf1JNdWyAJ3pcTgVAo1o-Q

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1584628902122913792

It's been said before but it's hilarious to me that the sitting president is polling at less than 30% in his own party

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

and the VP is polling at less than Berno OR Hilldawg lmao

the sec of transportation is not doing a particularly good job and he is in a virtual tie for second

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

"Oh, who's that with 13%?"
"The secretary of... transportation."
"Really? Was there some big high-profile crisis where he proved himself or something?"
"No" (blank stare)

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

he really did just do a series of Obama impressions on TV and boomers are still thinking about it

General Bullshit
Apr 20, 2020



NLRA being ruled unconstitutional under the most pro-union president in history?!?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

loquacius posted:

https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1584628902122913792

It's been said before but it's hilarious to me that the sitting president is polling at less than 30% in his own party

I think it's similar to when Republicans run some obviously terrible incompetent rear end in a top hat that even they can't defend, so he polls low early in the election because so many people just don't want to admit they're going to vote for him when they're told to, and then in the final weeks he starts rocketing up as people find ways to rationalize supporting him like they were always gonna do all along anyway.

Dems don't want to admit they're going to vote for a senile old rapist white man, but as the 2024 primary gets going MSNBC is going to tell them he's the only one that can win and it's the smart sensible adult thing to do.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
The Rat polling even with Bernie makes me very mad

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

https://twitter.com/TrueSlazac/status/1584682130768302080?s=20&t=qA4-js88OOzucljjB0vGhQ

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Nothus posted:

The Rat polling even with Bernie makes me very mad

well you see he's a nice young man and he sounded a lot like barack obama

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

loquacius posted:

well you see he's a nice young man and he sounded a lot like barack obama

This is 100% what old people who like ratboy say and it's always insane to hear

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1584705376783847424

Sirota is mad and y'know what he's right to be mad

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Uncle Wemus posted:

This is 100% what old people who like ratboy say and it's always insane to hear

if "went to a good school and can do an Obama impression" qualifies you to be president I'm loving running, gently caress this

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Fly Molo posted:

lmao

the democrats are doubling down on calling trump pro-china??? stop making “donald the dove” sound cooler you morons

They should do it just so the conservatives take the China pill just out of contrarianism.

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


loquacius posted:

https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1584628902122913792

It's been said before but it's hilarious to me that the sitting president is polling at less than 30% in his own party

Time stopped at the peak of the Democratic Primary, just before covid hit.

porfiria
Dec 10, 2008

by Modern Video Games
It's crazy how thin the Dem bench is. A hollowed out party of dead-eyed climbers.

The GOP is filled with literally insane people--that's a strength.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

Dolash posted:

Time stopped at the peak of the Democratic Primary, just before covid hit.

today is February 988th, 2020

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

I'm guessing ol pudding brains is thinking of the Joint Consolidation Loan Separation Act that he recently signed

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1584717669915238402

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Never forget that the first person to give AOC a media platform was Jimmy Dore.

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

loquacius posted:

"Oh, who's that with 13%?"
"The secretary of... transportation."
"Really? Was there some big high-profile crisis where he proved himself or something?"
"No" (blank stare)

has he come back from paternity leave yet?

the white hand
Nov 12, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
lmao every single shot of one of those kids around biden just has them doing the most controlled non-reaction faces imaginable

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

What a let down aoc has been

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

Nothus posted:

The Rat polling even with Bernie makes me very mad



always remember to check the sources

Mostly Lurking
Sep 25, 2008
AOC is doing great. Just absolute fantastic work proving why you never vote for democrats.

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

Uncle Wemus posted:

What a let down aoc has been


Mostly Lurking posted:

AOC is doing great. Just absolute fantastic work proving why you never vote for democrats.

:haibrow:

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

President Joe Biden said on Monday he was optimistic about an eleventh-hour swing in Democrats’ favor, despite polls showing Republican candidates gaining momentum in a number of tight midterm races.

“You know, whether we maintain control of the Senate and the House is a big deal, and so far we’re running against the tide, and we’re beating the tide,” Biden said at an event at Democratic National Committee headquarters.

“Republicans ahead, Democrats ahead, Republicans ahead. But it’s going to close, I think, with seeing one more shift: Democrats ahead,” Biden later added, noting that the polls “have been all over the place.”

In recent weeks, polls have shown Republicans gaining in key Senate races. In Pennsylvania and Arizona, GOP candidates Mehmet Oz and Blake Masters have gained on their Democratic opponents, John Fetterman and Sen. Mark Kelly. According to RealClearPolitics polling averages, both races are a toss-up, though Fetterman currently leads in Pennsylvania by 2.2 percentage points and Kelly leads in Arizona by 2.5 points.

In Ohio, Republican J.D. Vance has maintained a 2-point lead over Democrat Tim Ryan, and Georgia Sen. Raphael Warnock, who was polling 3 points ahead of Republican candidate Herschel Walker a week ago, held only a 1-point lead as of Sunday.

The GOP shifts in these states are consistent with generic polling, which shows Republicans pulling ahead nationally.

Meat Miracle
Oct 24, 2010

Nothus posted:

The Rat polling even with Bernie makes me very mad

yeah, it's a real coin-flip between them

*chuckles*

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis clashed with Democratic challenger Charlie Crist during their lone debate on Monday as the two traded barbs over key issues in the 2022 midterms, including abortion, immigration and the Republican governor’s presidential ambitions.

The hour-long debate in Fort Pierce, filled with supporters of both candidates, was mostly focused on DeSantis’s record over the past four years, including exchanges over the governor’s decision to fly almost 50 mostly-Venezuelan migrants from Texas to Martha’s Vineyard or how he handled Hurricane Ian.

Throughout the debate, Crist tried to push DeSantis to say whether or not he would serve a full four years if re-elected instead of running for president — but the Republican incumbent either did not answer or sidestepped the question.

In one of the most heated moments, Crist asked DeSantis to tell Floridians whether he’d carry out his full second term if re-elected, which garnered an awkward pause during the debate as DeSantis waited to answer.

“Why don’t you look in the eyes of the people of Florida and say to them, if you’re reelected you will serve a full four year term as governor. Yes or no,” Crist prodded. “Yes or no, Ron?” After several seconds, DeSantis responded: “I know that Charlie is itching to talk about 2024 and Joe Biden. But I just want to make things very, very clear: The only worn-out old donkey I’m looking to put out to pasture is Charlie Crist.”

The debate was seen as Crist’s last chance to disrupt DeSantis’s attempt at a second term, and the former congressman tried to paint the governor as an extremist.

But DeSantis has vastly outspent Crist and most polls show the GOP governor leading his Democratic rival. Crist has also been swamped on television as the DeSantis campaign has outspent him by a roughly four-to-one margin in the past two months.

And over the past four years, DeSantis has consolidated power within the state and positioned himself as one of the leading Republicans in America. In many polls, DeSantis comes in second among Republican voters only to former President Donald Trump, though the Republican governor has repeatedly downplayed speculation that he has presidential ambitions.

Crist, however, repeatedly accused DeSantis of prioritizing his personal political ambitions and focusing on cultural issues that divided the state instead of taking time to respond to the state’s affordable housing crisis. He pressed him on several issues, including whether he would push for a complete and total ban on all abortion in the state if he is re-elected. DeSantis earlier this year signed into a law a ban on all abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy with no exceptions for rape or incest.

Crist noted recent news accounts about how a middle school student who got pregnant as a result of incest had to travel to another state in order to get an abortion because of Florida’s new law.

“That’s not compassionate leadership, that’s not doing the right thing, that’s not even having a heart,” Crist said. “That’s callous. It’s barbaric and it’s wrong and Florida deserves better.”

DeSantis would not say during the debate whether he would push for a complete ban and instead mentioned the mother of new Florida Supreme Court Justice Renatha Francis, who had initially had considered getting an abortion only to change her mind.

The governor then suggested Crist was in favor of allowing abortions up to the moment of birth while also slamming him for changing his political positions as a Democrat after previously serving as a Republican.

“Is this an honest change of heart or is this a guy that’s going to shift with whatever wind he needs to?” DeSantis asked.

DeSantis, for his part, repeatedly tethered Biden and Crist together as he blamed the current administration for inflation, rising energy prices and a surge in immigration across the nation’s Southern border.

“He’s locked together with these policies that have hurt so many people,” DeSantis said.

A portion of the debate also focused on the governor’s policies enacted in the wake of the Covid-19 pandemic. DeSantis repeatedly asserted Crist was in favor of lockdowns and other Covid-19 mandates that DeSantis has built a national reputation rejecting.

“He called for harsh lockdowns in 2020,” DeSantis said. “If that would have happened, it would have destroyed the state of Florida … I lifted you up. I protected your rights.”

Crist pushed back by contending that Florida had a higher death rate than other states and said that the governor consistently rejected science and was “arrogant” about many of the positions he has taken. More than 80,000 people in Florida died from Covid-19.

He also tried to assert that DeSantis had himself flipped on his policies, noting how early on in the pandemic, DeSantis had supported the closing of schools and businesses. DeSantis, however, moved to reopen businesses quicker than in many other states and pushed to reopen schools in the fall of 2020 despite getting pushback from some school districts and the teacher’s union.

That wasn’t the only education issues that provoked stark disagreement between the two candidates. DeSantis defended his decision to back the “Parental Rights in Education” bill — called “Don’t Say Gay” by opponents — that bars classroom instructions on gender orientation or sexual identity in early grades. He also explained why he supported a push to bar critical race theory in schools and his support for a bill that prohibits schools from leveling guilt or blame at students and employees based on race or sex.

“I don’t want to teach our kids to hate our country,” DeSantis said.

Crist retorted by saying children should be taught “facts.” Later in the debate, during a discussion about a Florida effort to bar physicians from performing gender-affirming procedures on minors as a treatment for gender dysphoria, he hammered DeSantis for being judgmental.

“You don’t have the temperament to be kind and decent to other people who don’t look like you, who don’t act like you and don’t contribute to you,” Crist said.

Crist, 66, was once elected Florida’s governor as a Republican, but he ultimately switched parties and mounted his second run for governor against Rick Scott in 2014. That race was extremely tight down the stretch but Crist — after easily knocking off Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried in the primary — came into the debate as a serious underdog.

The 44-year-old DeSantis barely won his race for governor four years ago, but the dynamics of the state have shifted during that time period as a wave of people have flocked to the state in the immediate aftermath of the Covid-19 pandemic. Republicans now outnumber Democrats among active registered voters, changing the political make up of the once-perennial swing state to lean Republican.

The debate was initially scheduled for earlier in the month, but was pushed back in the aftermath of Hurricane Ian, the deadly storm that slammed into the state in late September. The storm — and its impact of the state — triggered sparring over what to do with the state’s fragile property insurance market, with DeSantis promising to hold a special session later this year that will include cracking down on lawsuits against insurers. Crist faulted DeSantis for the rising insurance rates over the last few years.

And while Biden previously praised DeSantis’ hurricane response, Crist asserted that the governor didn’t move decisively enough to press authorities in Lee County to evacuate ahead of the storm. DeSantis responded by contending that Crist sent out fundraising solicitation to storm victims.

DeSantis and Crist squared off the same day that early voting started in more than half of the state’s counties, including those that contain major urban centers such as Jacksonville, Miami, Orlando and Tampa.

More than 1.16 million voters have already cast ballots by mail, according to the latest numbers posted by Florida’s Division of Elections.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

so I’m skipping ahead like 15 pages but I didn’t see anyone point out a couple things on this DEA chart when posted:

https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/quotas/quota_history.pdf

the ADHD stimulants on here are D-amphetamine (desoxyn), D,L-amphetamine (adderall is composed of the D and L salts), dexmethylphenidate (Focalin), methylphenidate (Ritalin), lisdexamphetamine (vyvanse). all of these drugs have various extended release variants so I just listed an example.

now, here are the 2021 quotas in millions of kilograms (or gigagrams I guess):
d-amphetamine: 21.2
d,l-amphetamine: 21.2
dexmethylphenidate+methylphenidate: 57.4
lisdexamphetamine: 22.5

note that vyvanse aka lisdexamphetamine is on patent and close to 1:1 with adderall dosing. methylphenidate dosages are a bit higher because drugs are weird like that. anyway, from the 2022 DEA quota

quote:

With regard to the schedule II stimulants amphetamine, methylphenidate, and lisdexamfetamine, which are widely used to treat patients with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), FDA predicted a 1.66 percent decline in domestic medical use. FDA also raised concerns over drug shortage notifications it received from patients for certain medications as well as recalls for specific ADHD medications. DEA considered FDA's concerns when calculating the aggregate production quota for these substances. In addition, DEA has observed a significant increase in the number of quota applications for product development efforts as well as exports for medical use for these controlled substances. For example, exports of schedule II stimulant products in calendar year 2020 totaled 75 percent more than FDA's estimated domestic medical need for stimulant products manufactured from these three controlled substances, which demonstrated that significant quantities of schedule II stimulants produced domestically are intended for export.

While DEA has observed a significant increase in demand among domestic manufacturers to bring generic ADHD-products to a relatively stable domestic market, it has also grown increasingly concerned over how these market forces may impact the misuse of prescription stimulants among young adults, which in turn coincides with an increase in demand for illicit stimulants (

i.e.,

methamphetamine and cocaine). It is notable that major increases in diagnosis and treatment of ADHD coincide with FDA approval of various stimulants: Concerta (long-acting methylphenidate) in 2000, Ritalin LA (methylphenidate) in 2002, Adderall (dextroamphetamine saccharate, amphetamine aspartate, dextroamphetamine sulfate, and amphetamine sulfate) in 2002, and Vyvanse (lisdexamfetamine) in 2007. These medications are all placed in schedule II because of their high abuse liability and associated risk of addiction.

Stimulants prescribed to treat ADHD are some of the most diverted drugs among adolescents with risk for the development of abuse and dependence.[1 2]

Increasing diagnoses of

this disorder have led to increases in filled prescriptions and changes to the APQ to meet patients' medical needs. The diversion of ADHD medications for the purposes of recreational abuse or performance enhancement is common, with approximately 5-10 percent of high school students and 5-35 percent of college students, depending on the study, misusing and diverting stimulants prescribed for ADHD.[3]

As a consequence, DEA is consulting with federal partners at HHS and closely monitoring trends in licit and illicit stimulant use and corresponding diversion and misuse.


well, that explains where all the stimulants are going: on patent exports.

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

loquacius posted:

https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1584705376783847424

Sirota is mad and y'know what he's right to be mad

"“Socialism is like a tram. You ride it until you arrive at your destination, then you step off.”

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

loquacius posted:

https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1584705376783847424

Sirota is mad and y'know what he's right to be mad

I liked the trueanon aoc episode

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

hobbesmaster posted:

I liked the trueanon aoc episode

It was a good interview, they asked some hard hitting questions. Not sure why brace said all that weird stuff and cried at the end though.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1584734042817175552

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Palladium
May 8, 2012

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nobody will ever figure out the woman busy raking in the billlions may not actually care about the purported democracy one bit

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