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shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

fknlo posted:

Can't believe they don't want to be associated with that!

I'm pretty sure the right wing grift train isn't going to pay as well but who knows.

They're gonna sue him right they have to sue him the Yeezy line is 1/8th of their net income

# ? Oct 25, 2022 15:04

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 16:58

BadOptics: Sep 11, 2012

A.o.D. posted:

The fact that a little nuke posturing gets them to want to negotiate with fascists tells me everything I need to know about these socialists. They're not about the struggle, and there's not an ounce of solidarity to be found among them.

So you're saying you didn't read the literal statement that was linked? I'll even post some specific points as clicking a link seems difficult these days:

quote:

Dear Mr. President:

We write with appreciation for your commitment to Ukraine�s legitimate struggle against
Russia�s war of aggression. Your support for the self-defense of an independent, sovereign, and
democratic state has been supported by Congress, including through various appropriations of
military, economic and humanitarian aid in furtherance of this cause. Your administration�s
policy was critical to enable the Ukrainian people, through their courageous fighting and heroic
sacrifices, to deal a historic military defeat to Russia, forcing Russia to dramatically scale back
the stated goals of the invasion.

Crucially, you achieved this while also maintaining that it is imperative to avoid direct military
conflict with Russia, which would lead to �World War III, something we must strive to prevent.�
The risk of nuclear weapons being used has been estimated to be higher now than at any time
since the height of the Cold War. Given the catastrophic possibilities of nuclear escalation and
miscalculation, which only increase the longer this war continues, we agree with your goal of
avoiding direct military conflict as an overriding national-security priority.

Given the destruction created by this war for Ukraine and the world, as well as the risk of
catastrophic escalation, we also believe it is in the interests of Ukraine, the United States, and the
world to avoid a prolonged conflict. For this reason, we urge you to pair the military and
economic support the United States has provided to Ukraine with a proactive diplomatic push,
redoubling efforts to seek a realistic framework for a ceasefire. This is consistent with your
recognition that �there�s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here,� and
your concern that Vladimir Putin �doesn't have a way out right now, and I'm trying to figure out
what we do about that.�

We are under no illusions regarding the difficulties involved in engaging Russia given its
outrageous and illegal invasion of Ukraine and its decision to make additional illegal annexations
of Ukrainian territory. However, if there is a way to end the war while preserving a free and
independent Ukraine, it is America�s responsibility to pursue every diplomatic avenue to support
such a solution that is acceptable to the people of Ukraine. Such a framework would presumably
include incentives to end hostilities, including some form of sanctions relief, and bring together
the international community to establish security guarantees for a free and independent Ukraine
that are acceptable for all parties, particularly Ukrainians. The alternative to diplomacy is
protracted war, with both its attendant certainties and catastrophic and unknowable risks.
Russia�s invasion has caused incalculable harm for the people of Ukraine, leading to the deaths
of countless thousands of civilians, Ukrainian soldiers, and displacement of 13 million people,
while Russia�s recent seizure of cities in Ukraine�s east have led to the most pivotal moment in
the conflict and the consolidation of Russian control over roughly 20 percent of Ukraine�s
territory. The conflict threatens an additional tens of millions more worldwide, as skyrocketing
prices in wheat, fertilizer and fuel spark acute crises in global hunger and poverty. A war that is
allowed to grind on for years�potentially escalating in intensity and geographic scope�
threatens to displace, kill, and immiserate far more Ukrainians while causing hunger, poverty,
and death around the world. The conflict has also contributed to elevated gas and food prices at
home, fueling inflation and high oil prices for Americans in recent months. Economists believe
that if the situation in Ukraine is stabilized, some of the speculative concerns driving higher fuel
costs will subside and likely lead to a drop in world oil prices.

We agree with the Administration�s perspective that it is not America�s place to pressure
Ukraine�s government regarding sovereign decisions, and with the principle you have enunciated
that there should be �nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine.� But as legislators responsible for
the expenditure of tens of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars in military assistance in the conflict,
we believe such involvement in this war also creates a responsibility for the United States to
seriously explore all possible avenues, including direct engagement with Russia, to reduce harm
and support Ukraine in achieving a peaceful settlement.

In May, President Zelensky, despite deadlocked negotiations, reiterated that the war �will only
definitively end through diplomacy,� and had previously explained that �any mentally healthy
person always chooses the diplomatic path, because he or she knows: even if it is difficult, it can
prevent the loss of thousands, tens of thousands...and maybe even millions of lives.�

In conclusion, we urge you to make vigorous diplomatic efforts in support of a negotiated
settlement and ceasefire, engage in direct talks with Russia, explore prospects for a new
European security arrangement acceptable to all parties that will allow for a sovereign and
independent Ukraine, and, in coordination with our Ukrainian partners, seek a rapid end to the
conflict and reiterate this goal as America�s chief priority.

https://progressives.house.gov/_cac...ne-conflict.pdf

# ? Oct 25, 2022 15:10

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

BadOptics posted:

So you're saying you didn't read the literal statement that was linked? I'll even post some specific points as clicking a link seems difficult these days:

https://progressives.house.gov/_cac...ne-conflict.pdf

The problem remains is the people behind it, from the Ukraine VFW thread:

Kchama posted:

"free and independent Ukraine" means no Ukraine in NATO, since that's the exact wording that Russia uses about keeping Ukraine out of NATO. Like, it kind of feels like it's full of mostly reasonable stuff to make you not and not recognize the poison pills that they're trying to slip in.

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/10/17/on-ukraine-the-us-is-on-the-hook-to-find-a-way-out/ Hell, this is an actual article from the Quincy Institute from last week, that spells out what they mean by diplomacy, which is "Ceasefire NOW! Ukraine must give something up" and it's just all WW3 fearmongering.

Again, we can talk diplomacy all we want, but Russia has been very clear they neither intend to stick to any agreement nor will they give Ukraine what it is asking for. Russia wants diplomacy so it can have time to rebuild its forces and try again while consolidating its invasion gains that its rapidly losing. Putin, regardless, is a bad faith actor when it comes to negotiations, and as Ukraine said already: There is no negotiation as long as Putin is in power. Russia could end this any day by withdrawing and ending the war, its on them to set the the initiative to bring peace.

But Russia is quite clear: They will continue this war till they get what they want, losing or not.

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Oct 25, 2022

# ? Oct 25, 2022 15:17

Xakura: Jan 10, 2019; A safety-conscious little mouse!

BadOptics posted:

So you're saying you didn't read the literal statement that was linked? I'll even post some specific points as clicking a link seems difficult these days:

https://progressives.house.gov/_cac...ne-conflict.pdf

Context matters, there's a reason they're running around explaining the letter after it was sent.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 15:28

A.o.D.: Jan 15, 2006

BadOptics posted:

So you're saying you didn't read the literal statement that was linked? I'll even post some specific points as clicking a link seems difficult these days:

https://progressives.house.gov/_cac...ne-conflict.pdf

Intent matters, and the fact that there's been a lot of rear end covering after the fact should suggest to everyone what the letter was really about. If they actually meant that military support of Ukraine was cool and good, there was no reason at all to craft their letter in the first place. They just couches their real intent in a bunch of soft, obfuscatory language to give themselves room to weasel out of the position if it turned out to be unpopular. They aren't my allies, they haven't earned any benefit of my doubt.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 16:53

Wasabi the J: Jan 23, 2008; MOM WAS RIGHT

A.o.D. posted:

Intent matters, and the fact that there's been a lot of rear end covering after the fact should suggest to everyone what the letter was really about. If they actually meant that military support of Ukraine was cool and good, there was no reason at all to craft their letter in the first place. They just couches their real intent in a bunch of soft, obfuscatory language to give themselves room to weasel out of the position if it turned out to be unpopular. They aren't my allies, they haven't earned any benefit of my doubt.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 17:01

Kesper North: Nov 3, 2011; EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

CommieGIR posted:

The problem remains is the people behind it, from the Ukraine VFW thread:

Again, we can talk diplomacy all we want, but Russia has been very clear they neither intend to stick to any agreement nor will they give Ukraine what it is asking for. Russia wants diplomacy so it can have time to rebuild its forces and try again while consolidating its invasion gains that its rapidly losing. Putin, regardless, is a bad faith actor when it comes to negotiations, and as Ukraine said already: There is no negotiation as long as Putin is in power. Russia could end this any day by withdrawing and ending the war, its on them to set the the initiative to bring peace.

But Russia is quite clear: They will continue this war till they get what they want, losing or not.

ZombieApostate posted:

Ok, genuine question, what is the connection between the Quincy Institute and the Progressive Caucus and why do you think they speak for the Progressive Caucus, cause I can't find anything. The Quincy Institute apparently wrote that garbage WaPo piece about the dumb letter, but it seems to be the same age old practice where 3rd parties love to put words in other people's mouths.

I smell fuckery, and I'm not sure it isn't the kind of fuckery designed to get the party to turn on its progressives.

Which is mostly bad for us, even if I am in total agreement with the thread on Ukraine and the futility of negotiating with Russia.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 17:10

Mustang: Jun 18, 2006; “We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

Jayapal is my congresswoman and I don't even know what prompted this, I'm doing poo poo around Seattle every day and I've never once heard anything from anyone about how "we need a diplomatic solution in Ukraine, NOW!". There's a surprising amount of Ukrainians here and I can't imagine anyone here telling them that Ukraine needs to start negotiating with Russia.

There's not even 100k DSA members across the country, why does anyone care what they think about anything? What's the point in catering to them?

# ? Oct 25, 2022 17:10

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Kesper North posted:

I smell fuckery, and I'm not sure it isn't the kind of fuckery designed to get the party to turn on its progressives.

Which is mostly bad for us, even if I am in total agreement with the thread on Ukraine and the futility of negotiating with Russia.

Agreed, the problem is the whole "No war is good war" stigma that a lot of progressives like to stick to ignores that this is largely a defensive war against a marauding invader. Not Iraq III or Afghanistan II

# ? Oct 25, 2022 17:16

Kesper North: Nov 3, 2011; EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Mustang posted:

There's not even 100k DSA members across the country, why does anyone care what they think about anything? What's the point in catering to them?

I am also a Seattleite. I've heard a lot of milquetoast NPR-listening Subaru-driving Seattle Liberals worrying about escalation!

You know, the sort of people who never regarded Trump as a serious threat until it was too late. The sort of folks who would vote for an Amazon-backed candidate who is going to Improve Public Safety because Seattle Is Dying. The sort of folks who would consider voting for an anti-war candidate even if they're conservative, because they're generally against war but have an outdated view of politics that lacks nuance, and maybe they have LGBTQ friends, but they're not queer themselves.

I am virtually certain it's aimed at them, not the "radical left" :aloom:

# ? Oct 25, 2022 17:16

Wasabi the J: Jan 23, 2008; MOM WAS RIGHT

Kesper North posted:

I am also a Seattleite. I've heard a lot of milquetoast NPR-listening Subaru-driving Seattle Liberals worrying about escalation!

You know, the sort of people who never regarded Trump as a serious threat until it was too late. The sort of folks who would vote for an Amazon-backed candidate who is going to Improve Public Safety because Seattle Is Dying. The sort of folks who would consider voting for an anti-war candidate even if they're conservative, because they're generally against war but have an outdated view of politics that lacks nuance, and maybe they have LGBTQ friends, but they're not queer themselves.

I am virtually certain it's aimed at them, not the "radical left"

drat wild if a nation state and white supremacists were collaborators behind a lot of that grassroots poo poo post citizens united.

Sorry just another "stupid baseless opinion" poo poo post

# ? Oct 25, 2022 17:34

LtCol J. Krusinski: May 7, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

I have, for a lot longer than most, been Pro-Killing Ruskies.

The GOP not being the bloodlust for Russia party is� loving� :sigh:

# ? Oct 25, 2022 17:58

Itchy_Grundle: Feb 22, 2003

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

I have, for a lot longer than most, been Pro-Killing Ruskies.

The GOP not being the bloodlust for Russia party is� loving�

Agreed. I really can't wrap my head around how all these supposedly patriotic MAGA people want to cozy up with Russia.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 18:02

Kesper North: Nov 3, 2011; EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

ProgCaucs walked it back and courageously blamed their staff :nallears:

quote:

WASHINGTON � Representative Pramila Jayapal (WA-07), chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, issued the following statement on a letter sent regarding Ukraine:

�The Congressional Progressive Caucus hereby withdraws its recent letter to the White House regarding Ukraine.

�The letter was drafted several months ago, but unfortunately was released by staff without vetting. As Chair of the Caucus, I accept responsibility for this. Because of the timing, our message is being conflated by some as being equivalent to the recent statement by Republican Leader McCarthy threatening an end to aid to Ukraine if Republicans take over.

https://progressives.house.gov/press-releases?ID=5E8128B9-75AC-4E00-8738-24D9951BB606

# ? Oct 25, 2022 18:06

Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

I�m a huge fan of the �I�ll take responsibility but before I do I need you to understand I�m blaming someone else� line whenever I see it.

Like some staffer dredged up a months-old letter, updated it, and published it to the nation without any direction.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 18:08

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Stuff like this could easily just be a hitpiece so take with grain of salt but Jayapal is supposedly lovely to her staff. Fits that pattern at least.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/addybaird/pramila-jayapal-staff-treatment

quote:

Despite the fact that Jayapal is one of the highest-profile progressives in DC and the chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, 14 former staffers from throughout her nearly five years in Congress describe a dysfunctional and volatile workplace. There is, they said, a serious disconnect between how she talks about workers� rights and how she treats her own staff. The conversations with former staff members, all granted anonymity to speak candidly due to the insular nature of Capitol Hill and fears of retaliation, reveal an especially harsh office with a boss whose treatment of workers runs contrary to the public expectations she has set for others.

In interviews with BuzzFeed News, they described Jayapal as a boss who berated staff in front of others, demanded grueling hours, and maintained an office culture marked by constantly changing expectations and little tolerance for error, to the extent that some staffers sought therapy and questioned their careers in public service. Since taking office, Jayapal has had one of the highest staff turnover rates in the House, due in large part, former employees said, to the unrealistic standards she sets. �It's not sustainable to be able to stay for too long,� one said.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 18:12

pantslesswithwolves: Oct 28, 2008

Tiny Timbs posted:

I�m a huge fan of the �I�ll take responsibility but before I do I need you to understand I�m blaming someone else� line whenever I see it.

Like some staffer dredged up a months-old letter, updated it, and published it to the nation without any direction.

I don�t believe this explanation for a hot second but if a staffer actually released something like this without permission, they�d find themselves deposited outside of the Beltway with their head in a hood, their hands flex cuffed and enough money for a bus ticket back to their home state before they had a clue what happened.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 18:14

Notahippie: Feb 4, 2003; Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth

Tiny Timbs posted:

I�m a huge fan of the �I�ll take responsibility but before I do I need you to understand I�m blaming someone else� line whenever I see it.

Like some staffer dredged up a months-old letter, updated it, and published it to the nation without any direction.

I choose to believe that's exactly what happened because it's hilarious.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 18:14

A.o.D.: Jan 15, 2006

Democrat Party Operatives with Socialist Characteristics.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 18:15

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1584954014311288832?t=unijCF4aOfjFmJJVKYNasw&s=19

I really can't figure out if it was lovely staff work, lovely congresspeople, or lovely institutes. Lots of "America bad" people thinking this is another Vietnam/Iraq and that automagically Putin is going to stop if mean old Zelenskyy/Biden utter the secret codeword diplomatic phrase. Lots of people saying "Ukraine, accept half a loaf" when Russia is only offering polonium in the shape of bread.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 18:32

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

So I guess I�m buying Addis next time I need some runners.

Good on them.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 19:14

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Crab Dad posted:

So I guess I�m buying Addis next time I need some runners.

Good on them.

https://twitter.com/amore_orless/status/1584645507871256578

# ? Oct 25, 2022 19:15

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

That Works posted:

https://twitter.com/amore_orless/status/1584645507871256578

Goddamn it.

Back to hunting my own deers to make moccasins.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 19:18

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

That Works posted:

https://twitter.com/amore_orless/status/1584645507871256578

Nobody tell her about Volkswagen!

# ? Oct 25, 2022 19:21

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

CommieGIR posted:

Nobody tell her about Volkswagen!

My thoughts. I really don�t care if a company today had dubious origins nearly a hundred years ago.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 19:25

Sexual Lorax: Mar 17, 2004; HERE'S TO FUCKING; Fun Shoe

I'd like to hope that the "provide children with jobs" is a Nike sweatshop joke, but in these heady days of Poe's Law who fuckin' knows?

# ? Oct 25, 2022 19:33

Duzzy Funlop: Jan 13, 2010; Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Sexual Lorax posted:

I'd like to hope that the "provide children with jobs" is a Nike sweatshop joke, but in these heady days of Poe's Law who fuckin' knows?

No, that's pretty much the same as how i read it.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 19:42

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

I read the Nike tweet entirely as a joke and did not post it as a for real criticism of Adidas in any way. I too would be more likely to buy from Adidas in the near future based on them dropping Kanye.

Sadly, those kids working in the factory are more likely to get polio at the rate things are goin.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1584945057169166343?s=20&t=OX1tqJgMjBuCF2o49zfMtA

# ? Oct 25, 2022 19:52

Kesper North: Nov 3, 2011; EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Crab Dad posted:

My thoughts. I really don�t care if a company today had dubious origins nearly a hundred years ago.

I really do. Odds are the people who had a hand in its dubious origins, or their descendants, are still running and profiting from the show.

Look at the Quandt family, still a major shareholder in BMW "nearly a hundred years" later. A family which included Goebbels by marriage, ffs.

-----

Earthshaking developments in Silicon Valley

https://twitter.com/Sinohui/status/1584979294190993408?s=20&t=F8WJqbCGZAQRJWrTREHFuw

Kesper North fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Oct 25, 2022

# ? Oct 25, 2022 19:57

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

pantslesswithwolves posted:

I don�t believe this explanation for a hot second but if a staffer actually released something like this without permission, they�d find themselves deposited outside of the Beltway with their head in a hood, their hands flex cuffed and enough money for a bus ticket back to their home state before they had a clue what happened.

It's actually cheaper to fly. They just wanted to make them take the bus! Brutal

# ? Oct 25, 2022 20:10

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Kesper North posted:

I really do. Odds are the people who had a hand in its dubious origins, or their descendants, are still running and profiting from the show.

Look at the Quandt family, still a major shareholder in BMW "nearly a hundred years" later. A family which included Goebbels by marriage, ffs.

-----

Earthshaking developments in Silicon Valley

https://twitter.com/Sinohui/status/1584979294190993408?s=20&t=F8WJqbCGZAQRJWrTREHFuw

Please slough off into the sea while leaving oakland alone

# ? Oct 25, 2022 20:12

hypnophant: Oct 19, 2012

BadOptics posted:

So you're saying you didn't read the literal statement that was linked? I'll even post some specific points as clicking a link seems difficult these days:

https://progressives.house.gov/_cac...ne-conflict.pdf

Direct negotiation with Russia cannot possibly mean anything other than selling out Ukraine, a cowardly and immoral thing. There�s no scenario where the US directly negotiating improves Ukraine�s outcome - we can only do that by supporting their diplomatic efforts, which means making them the only negotiating partner. They have a larger stake than any other country in the outcome of the war, and it would be unjust to undermine their interests by opening separate talks.

Any time you hear the phrase �direct negotiations� in respect to this, I want you to picture Sykes and Picot sitting at a table partitioning the Levant.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 20:20

CBJSprague24: Dec 5, 2010; another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Kesper North posted:

ProgCaucs walked it back and courageously blamed their staff

https://progressives.house.gov/press-releases?ID=5E8128B9-75AC-4E00-8738-24D9951BB606

Ah, so Democrats are taking a page out of the GQP playbook and embracing the "Say what do you really mean, then walk it back as a misunderstanding later" strategy.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 20:21

Kesper North: Nov 3, 2011; EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

https://twitter.com/jason_koebler/status/1584990345221509120?s=20&t=4uaUcpedi259uDii6UMSOg

# ? Oct 25, 2022 20:37

Diarrhea Elemental: Apr 2, 2012; Am I correct in my assumption, you fish-faced enemy of the people?

Kesper North posted:

I really do. Odds are the people who had a hand in its dubious origins, or their descendants, are still running and profiting from the show.

Look at the Quandt family, still a major shareholder in BMW "nearly a hundred years" later. A family which included Goebbels by marriage, ffs.

Are we cool with blood debts now? Current day presence of controlling interests with lovely origins, sure. Maybe even a generation or so, but that is kinda sketchy still. But how far back and how far forward are we reaching to paint people with the same brush? Being lovely giant exploitative corporations is enough without adding some of your own ugliness to the situation. If they're a lovely family doing lovely things, past to present uninterrupted, cool. But it's not a flattering line of questioning to pursue.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 20:47

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; bone shaking.
soul baking.

Apartheid Clyde has informed his bankers that he�s closing on the Twitter purchase on Friday.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 20:49

Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

lol Twitter is gonna own in a few weeks

# ? Oct 25, 2022 20:52

Kesper North: Nov 3, 2011; EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Diarrhea Elemental posted:

Are we cool with blood debts now? Current day presence of controlling interests with lovely origins, sure. Maybe even a generation or so, but that is kinda sketchy still. But how far back and how far forward are we reaching to paint people with the same brush? Being lovely giant exploitative corporations is enough without adding some of your own ugliness to the situation. If they're a lovely family doing lovely things, past to present uninterrupted, cool. But it's not a flattering line of questioning to pursue.

Are we cool with the fact that the Quandt family was never properly investigated after WWII? Because that's part of it - they should have been brought to justice and they weren't, and now their money belongs to people who were raised to be loving Nazis. It's like winning a Civil War and then letting the losing side build monuments to Confederate generals.

I view it less as a blood debt, and more in line with tearing down Confederate monuments and renaming military bases. The family wealth has to go too, because guess what builds monuments.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 20:59

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

Duzzy Funlop posted:

No, that's pretty much the same as how i read it.

I believe the kids call it "doing a getfiscal"

Anyway if anyone wants to go deep about Adidas' history please show the class why there's a nonzero chance Puma picks up Kanye just out of spite

shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Oct 25, 2022

# ? Oct 25, 2022 21:03

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 16:58

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That Works posted:

Sadly, those kids working in the factory are more likely to get polio at the rate things are goin.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1584945057169166343?s=20&t=OX1tqJgMjBuCF2o49zfMtA

The pandemic is one of the best arguments authoritarian regimes have against democracy.

# ? Oct 25, 2022 21:07

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