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mcmagic just noticed Joe Benigno has a new weekly spot on WFAN have you been listening to it?
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lmao. If only there wasn’t a jailbreak blitz every other play. https://twitter.com/PFF_Sam/status/1584975201149759488
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Oct 25, 2022 21:51
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pasaluki posted:mcmagic just noticed Joe Benigno has a new weekly spot on WFAN have you been listening to it? Yeah his takes on the team this year have been pretty bad though.
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Oct 25, 2022 21:56
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did this get posted already https://twitter.com/MarkDanielsPJ/status/1584868814772400128?s=20&t=1JlYLgkKSotLWWG4d_fkAg because lol
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Oct 25, 2022 21:59
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Ehud posted:Originally I thought Tua missed this throw, but now I'm not so sure. During the game I thought it was a pretty decent throw but Tua had been so bad I just gave Tyreek the benefit of the doubt.
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Oct 25, 2022 22:04
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Let’s see if we have two bad games in a row from Tua and McDaniel. Then I’ll start to worry. And boy will I!
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Oct 25, 2022 22:12
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He’ll be cleared by Sunday because Patriots. https://twitter.com/DougKyed/status/1585014992130412544
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Oct 25, 2022 22:26
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Ehud posted:oh poo poo I just noticed Waddle was wide open nm hahahahaha Hill is the right target both by design and how it played out, I don't know what the hell he was doing there. It's a very basic deep cross concept, he's not reading the coverage or anything and he's playing against maybe the slowest CBs in the NFL. Waddle is your second progression there and has an option route that he hasn't gotten to yet by the time the ball was out. Hamhandler fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Oct 25, 2022 |
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Oct 25, 2022 22:32
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Amy Pole Her posted:Let’s see if we have two bad games in a row from Tua and McDaniel. Then I’ll start to worry. I definitely think McDaniel messed up some game management stuff, but the more I see stuff like the Tyreek route I posted, the Edmonds pic you posted, I think McDaniel had a pretty good game from a play calling perspective.
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Oct 25, 2022 22:55
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Timing in general between Tua and Hill seemed a bit weird Sunday night. I remember a pass in the 1st quarter where Hill stumbled for a step or two as Tua was throwing-- wound up being an easily catchable ball but had me thinking it would have been behind Hill without the stumbling.
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Oct 25, 2022 23:07
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ok https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/1585020224327192577?s=46&t=FnjzMZTElJzQz_uju0g7Wg
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Oct 25, 2022 23:11
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reek is compensating for tua's arm by adjusting how fast he's getting to the ball, so sometimes he's out of position by the time the ball actually gets there and you see weird rear end plays when tua manages to get some zip on it you can see it during the ravens game where he pulls up mid stride to let the ball get to him on a go route that turned into a TD
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Oct 25, 2022 23:11
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Declan MacManus posted:reek is compensating for tua's arm by adjusting how fast he's getting to the ball, so sometimes he's out of position by the time the ball actually gets there and you see weird rear end plays when tua manages to get some zip on it Yeah that makes sense, guess it just felt more noticeable Sunday-- hopefully that's just an outcome of all the QB shuffling the past few weeks.
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Oct 25, 2022 23:50
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Pats fans it’s fine https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2022/08/20/patriots-mac-jones-nfl-mvp-mike-tannenbaum/
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Oct 26, 2022 00:46
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Yesterday could only really happen like it did to the Patriots. No other fan base could be so thoroughly convinced their unimpressive no name late round backup is actually Tom Brady.
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Oct 26, 2022 00:56
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fsif posted:Yesterday could only really happen like it did to the Patriots. No other fan base could be so thoroughly convinced their unimpressive no name late round backup is actually Tom Brady. Lol are you serious with this? I have spent literally decades watching fans of the other teams in this division glom on to the Mike Whites, Trent Edwards and Matt Moore's of the NFL. How quickly Josh Allen washes away the phrase "Team Trent."
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Oct 26, 2022 01:32
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This is a thread full of people who haven't given up on Zach Wilson. If the Jets fans, Dolfans, and pre-Allen Bills fans had a rookie that performed like Mac did last year, they would defend him until at least the fifth year option kicked in.
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Oct 26, 2022 01:37
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It’s true Mac is clearly mediocre but he’s also just a rookie and he’s mediocre. Not pats fans fault that the media vastly overrated the dude and he couldn’t live up to something he (again clear as day) wasn’t going to be. It’s similar to how we dolphins fans delude ourselves into thinking Tua will be playing well into a 2nd contract
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Oct 26, 2022 01:43
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fsif posted:This is a thread full of people who haven't given up on Zach Wilson. If the Jets fans, Dolfans, and pre-Allen Bills fans had a rookie that performed like Mac did last year, they would defend him until at least the fifth year option kicked in. This is a completely different discussion. Also, you're right, we're very smart for knowing better. 
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Oct 26, 2022 01:47
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:This is a completely different discussion. It was literally my point, though. Only the Patriots fan base would boo their once promising second year player after like four games because they're conditioned to believe they'll just find another Tom Brady. You can't act like you haven't heard fan whispers about how Mac might be playing the Bledsoe role (or the endless Mac/Brady comparisons last year). Bills fans called for Trent Edwards after three drat years of Losman and never compared him to Jim Kelly; we just thought he could end up a good starter.
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Oct 26, 2022 02:01
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Matt Moore ruled.
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Oct 26, 2022 02:06
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fsif posted:It was literally my point, though. Only the Patriots fan base would boo their once promising second year player after like four games because they're conditioned to believe they'll just find another Tom Brady. You can't act like you haven't heard fan whispers about how Mac might be playing the Bledsoe role (or the endless Mac/Brady comparisons last year). The world most famous and walking avatar of all Pats fans Bill Simmons absolutely made the Mac/Zappe Bledsoe/Brady analogy.
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Oct 26, 2022 02:08
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I can personally attest to the fact that over the past two weeks the most common line coming out of callers to 98.5 The Sports Hub was “well I’m not saying he’s Brady, BUT.” Endlessly
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Oct 26, 2022 02:11
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And also, like, it's not personal; no Pats fan in TFF afaik has really believed in Zappe more than just having fun saying his name.
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Oct 26, 2022 02:17
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The Pats fans they put the knife in their own boys back because they can't face the reality that all they will be from now on is a little mediocre insignificant team. They sit in Gillette stadium and guess who the newest spokesperson for Gillette is? Josh Allen. You know those vaguely homoerotic Gillette Tom Brady commercials where dude is just shaving and smirking into the camera? Josh Allen is actually doing those commercials now. Tom Brady is no longer is the object of God's affection, Josh Allen is. We no longer live in the world of the Patriots, they live in our world. And all I can say is I hope is it is a terrible, hellish, oppressive world for them!! Bill Belichick actually thought Tom Brady himself would reincarnate again in Bailey Zappe. You Patriots fans are worried about the Bills? I'd worry about the Jets right now. It's a great setting for the feature game of the thread. Sundays tilt of Jets vs. Patriots!
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Oct 26, 2022 02:24
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fsif posted:It was literally my point, though. Only the Patriots fan base would boo their once promising second year player after like four games because they're conditioned to believe they'll just find another Tom Brady. You can't act like you haven't heard fan whispers about how Mac might be playing the Bledsoe role (or the endless Mac/Brady comparisons last year). Of course, he was just a different kind of bad, which was better in a way.
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Oct 26, 2022 02:27
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fsif posted:And also, like, it's not personal; no Pats fan in TFF afaik has really believed in Zappe more than just having fun saying his name. There is way more of a reason to believe in Zappe than Mac Jones.
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Oct 26, 2022 02:29
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They both are bad, have terrible coaches, and have no hope of going over .500. the main differences between the two is Zappe's face is a little smaller, he makes decisions faster, and his name invites comparison to one of the more entertaining Futurama characters.
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Oct 26, 2022 02:35
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mcmagic posted:There is way more of a reason to believe in Zappe than Mac Jones. Uh really dude? He's got a weaker arm and is shorter. Mac with not Matt Patricia did well enough to make the playoffs. I mean just because both seem better than Zach....ohhh ...
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Oct 26, 2022 02:42
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My personal feeling about QB's has always been - Josh Allen withstanding - that you're going to know in the first year if they're capable of becoming a real franchise quarterback. My thoughts going into this season is it was pretty clear from last year Mac wasn't the guy, that despite whatever "flashes" or promises he showed, he was way too physically limited to ever really become a top 10 quarterback. He was drafted with the promise of being.. lets say, in the mold of a young Matt Ryan, but in realty he looks and plays more like a 35 year old Matt Ryan. At best he's going to forever hover just above the Dalton zone. So I'm all for the Zappe ride, because while I think it's utterly extremely unlikely a 4th round dude who was drafted to be a career backup turns into a starter, at this point I think more snaps invested in Mac is just a waste of time. Give Zappe a month of actual starting reps and let him play and fail. Best thing for the team is to find out they don't have any quarterbacks on the roster, instead of dicking around for three years with Mac Jones like so many other AFCE teams have done with their quarterbacks. That being said, if Belichick's plan was to start Mac last night, he should have loving seen it through and not pulled him a couple of drives. And if his plan WAS to pull him why the gently caress did he give Mac almost all the reps in practice and the rest of the team not know it was coming?
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I mean, any snap from anyone while Matt Patricia is calling plays is a waste of time so
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Belichick hasn’t actually had a plan since Jimmy G and Jimmy G sucks too.
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It's going to be fascinating if the Jets win 9 or 10 games this year but Wilson doesn't play any better than he did the last few weeks to see what they do next year.
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mcmagic posted:It's going to be fascinating if the Jets win 9 or 10 games this year but Wilson doesn't play any better than he did the last few weeks to see what they do next year. You hope for a third year leap
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Oct 26, 2022 02:50
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Oct 26, 2022 02:51
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Mac isn't great but he's also not the problem. The Pats are bad enough that if they had Josh Allen this would still be like a 10 win season. The heart of the problem is that the Pats aren't elite anywhere except a guy who plays a position that hardly matters. The DBs are the only group that could realistically be part of a Super Bowl team.
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Matthew Stafford was pretty lousy year 1 and barely played year 2. Andrew Luck was basically rookie year Mac with legs year 1 and was barely over 60% passing and under 7ypa year 2. I am not a believer that you’ll know about a QB right away. Not to say you can’t I just don’t believe in any hard and fast rule when it comes to QB development.
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Oct 26, 2022 03:28
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I am talking about a good old eye test. Not any kind of statistical measurement of performance. There was way more to see and get excited about in the capabilities of Andrew Luck than Mac Jones has ever shown. Likewise, I feel you can't just excuse away a gross amount rookie mistakes and say "oh he's a rookie, it's ok, he'll figure it out". That's how you end up giving too many chances to guys like Darnold and continuing to have hope for Wilson. If they're good enough to play in the NFL they shouldn't spend half their rookie season making pants on head dumb decisions and sailing balls.
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Andrew Luck lived up to his draft hype for his first 3 season and then poo poo all went sideways in season 4 when he got seriously hurt. But he was far better than Mac.
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He was a good player, and the team had lots of success under him despite problems with the rosters... but he never really lived up to being a generational prospect like Manning.
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