ronya posted:

no, the real power move was this part of the speech:

and Hu is of course obliged to just sit there and clap this guy trashing his record

the domestic/foreign disparate coverage is readily explainable in that this is really an unengaged/engaged filter, knowing that the media environment in China is not really hermetically sealed

mobby_6kl posted:

Coincidentally, the "Sex and Zen & a bullet in the head" book is also available to borrow from archie.org: https://archive.org/details/sexzenbulletinhe00hamm/page/n3/mode/2up

Beefeater1980 posted:

Western observers also tend to underestimate how much of Xi and his faction’s speeches are basically oldmanyellsatcloud.txt. The latest gem was Education Minister Huai Jinpeng making noises about how being taught the English language is corrupting the youth. Then again he’s a STEMlord so he probably thinks humanities in general are a waste of time.

Criss-cross posted:

So the tankie position is that Xi is a bumbling moron that simply lucked into a power move, as power moves are not "his style". Got it.

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

Ok, I need a top 50 "maybe I'll find it at the sketchy used VHS rental place" HK movies. At least as cheesy as the early Jackie Chan stuff, and hopefully exactly as bad as the Ghost Snatchers thing I just witnessed. Please share with me your poorly dubbed or badly subtitled HK masterpieces.

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

Ok, I need a top 50 "maybe I'll find it at the sketchy used VHS rental place" HK movies. At least as cheesy as the early Jackie Chan stuff, and hopefully exactly as bad as the Ghost Snatchers thing I just witnessed. Please share with me your poorly dubbed or badly subtitled HK masterpieces.

Beefeater1980 posted:

Western observers also tend to underestimate how much of Xi and his faction’s speeches are basically oldmanyellsatcloud.txt. The latest gem was Education Minister Huai Jinpeng making noises about how being taught the English language is corrupting the youth. Then again he’s a STEMlord so he probably thinks humanities in general are a waste of time.

quote:

what is very important is that Xi always says what he thinks. He has always done that, but for a long time it was not noticed in the Western world. The collapse of the Soviet Union had a fundamental impact on him, and he described the three Russian traumas early in his term in office: First, Khrushchev’s criticism of Stalin was the original sin for him. Xi would never do such a thing with Mao, and he did so consistently. The old formula of «70% good, 30% bad» set up by Deng with regard to Mao was never heard of again under Xi. Secondly, Perestroika and Glasnost were, in Xi’s view, the catastrophe that led to the failure of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. The third Russian trauma for Xi were the oligarchs who became filthy rich under Boris Yeltsin and became a countervailing power to the state. That scenario was out of the question for Xi, which he consistently demonstrated, especially with Jack Ma, the founder of Alibaba. Xi is extremely consistent, you have to admire that, and at the same time he is also driven by history. He has studied the fall of the Soviet Union, and he has drawn the conclusion that this will not happen under his rule in China. On the contrary, he wants to show that communism will become a counter-model to capitalism.

The Cubelodyte posted:

Does anybody outside the CCP and tankie circles argue with a straight face that the PRC is still communist?

The Cubelodyte posted:

Does anybody outside the CCP and tankie circles argue with a straight face that the PRC is still communist?

Beefeater1980 posted:

I mean, China had a protracted period of being very definitely Not Communist during which living standards in the richest cities started to catch up with the west and hundreds of millions of people quit subsistence level farms to work in factories.

It is now being dragged away from that towards…something. Which will either be a rebalanced version of what they’ve got now except with more % of the economy represented by SOEs, or full on state capitalism.

I don’t think anyone’s expecting them to abolish money or what have you.

Beefeater1980 posted:

I mean, China had a protracted period of being very definitely Not Communist during which living standards in the richest cities started to catch up with the west and hundreds of millions of people quit subsistence level farms to work in factories.

It is now being dragged away from that towards…something. Which will either be a rebalanced version of what they’ve got now except with more % of the economy represented by SOEs, or full on state capitalism.

I don’t think anyone’s expecting them to abolish money or what have you.

Ups_rail posted:

What do china and Russia have in common besides communism? A long history of authorianism, Czar and Emperor.

The junk collector posted:

Maybe they'll get rid of money and let you spend social credit points

Grand Fromage posted:

Shut the gently caress up about the emperor, the King is back:

https://twitter.com/hebeipangzai/status/1584935604046872577

yaffle posted:

Forceholy posted:

r/sino?

Conservatives when they need a good sound bite?

Ups_rail posted:

China speed ran industrialization

I just dont see how they can have common prosperity, and a consumer economy.

The Cubelodyte posted:

Does anybody outside the CCP and tankie circles argue with a straight face that the PRC is still communist?

Atopian posted:

Right now there are multiple economies in parallel, it seems.

That is, a lot of foods and goods seem to exist in extremely separated tiers of cost.
I know that "the existence of both basic and luxury goods" isn't some China-specific thing, but the reason this is noteworthy is the scale of the price difference (huge) and the fact that entire shopping areas of different types can exist in the same city, a couple of km from each other, and neither side seems to think that's a problem.

So there are people living on ~1.5kĄ/mo living and shopping right by people spending ~15kĄ/mo, and others on 50kĄ/mo.

Reading what I've written it just looks like VaryingProsperityLevels.txt but again, it's just physically closer and financially further than what I've seen elsewhere.

quote:

To uphold and develop Marxism, we must integrate it with China's specific realities. Taking Marxism as our guide means applying its worldview and methodology to solving problems in China; it does not mean memorizing and reciting its specific conclusions and lines, and still less does it mean treating it as a rigid dogma. We must continue to free our minds, seek truth from facts, move with the times, and take a realistic and pragmatic approach. We must base everything we do on actual conditions and focus on solving real problems arising in our reform, opening up, and socialist modernization endeavours in the new era. We must keep responding to the questions posed by China, by the world, by the people, and by the times; in doing so, we should find the right answers suited to the realities of China and the needs of our day, reach conclusions that are compatible with objective laws, and develop new theories that are in step with the times, so as to provide better guidance for China's practice.

bob dobbs is dead posted:

really rich peeps in the west know how to hide themselves, its not that they dont exist. come to atherton sometime

Ups_rail posted:

Vietnam (Vietnams star is on the rise lol)

ninjoatse.cx posted:

Some required reading.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1467-8411.00016

If you google the the author's name, you can find some talks (seminars?) on updates from when this was published.

Atopian posted:

It's a fairly solid mixed economy with a lot more nationalised industry / services / utilities than most places, but it's got a whole bunch of private means of production, so.