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legooolas posted:Today I discovered one of the reasons it seems to have become a lot harder to get any tech relics in the UK/EU : Anything which counts as electronic waste and was manufactured before 2009 counts (since a rule change in 2019) as hazardous waste and registered WEEE handling companies have to send it for incineration :o Sorry but no, EU ewaste rules demand an active effort to recycle before burning. So any metal or plastic has to be harvested before final materiel destruction. The biggest reason for relatively recent materiel being hard to find is that since 2009 every member state will have to let consumers drop off whatever product they are going to replace with a more modern one at each point of sale so it's more convenient dropping the old parts at the store than filling consumer storage rooms with legacy equipment.
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HKR posted:every single person I know who works in electronics recycling is constantly racing to prevent rare and valuable gear from ending up in the scrap and for every piece they save there are dozens of others that get missed. Yep. Better than none of it getting saved though. You can’t know everything about everything.
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SlowBloke posted:Sorry but no, EU ewaste rules demand an active effort to recycle before burning. So any metal or plastic has to be harvested before final materiel destruction. I was just going on what I was told by our workplace contracted recyclers, when I asked if older kit would be possible for them to refurb and resell, and they also pointed at this : https://www.gov.uk/guidance/dispose-of-waste-containing-persistent-organic-pollutants-pops ..which does also say about metal recovery, but that PCBs, plastic etc from before 2009 which they can't prove to have below certain levels of the listed chemicals have to be destroyed (apparently commonly by incineration). Absolutely seems like a poor policy when people will literally pay them to keep these things out of being waste. I suspect that at $workplace the very old hardware will just be kept so long as there is space, in the hope that future rules allow it not to be destroyed (or it can be proven to be below the chemical concentration limits)
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Oct 15, 2022 16:24
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No, this is the best keyboard ever:  KeyTronic KT2001, a tech relic which I have a stack of in my basement. I'll have one until the day I die!
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Oct 15, 2022 16:37
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afen posted:No, this is the best keyboard ever: That is a legend. And you have the correct ISO layout with a proper return key. Not that inferior american ANSI stuff.
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Oct 15, 2022 16:39
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legooolas posted:I was just going on what I was told by our workplace contracted recyclers, when I asked if older kit would be possible for them to refurb and resell, and they also pointed at this : Keep in mind that PCB(chemical) and PCB(part) are two different things. Electronic boards, unless treated with special coatings, are not considered special chemical waste to burned on the spot.
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Oct 15, 2022 17:00
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afen posted:No, this is the best keyboard ever: I have sold several stacks of these on Finn in the last few years, so there is a chance you got them from me.
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afen posted:No, this is the best keyboard ever: Oh man, those are great. Too bad mine keep binding something firece for everyday use
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Oct 16, 2022 13:50
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You can lube the keys and that often helps
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Oct 16, 2022 16:08
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:You can lube the keys and that often helps Does this work for vintage laptop keyboards too? I have an HP Omnibook 300 and the keyboard action seems really heavy, but I'm not sure if they were like that originally or if it's just gummed up with 30 years of dust and crud.. E: It's consistently heavy on all keys and the laptop is otherwise very clean, so I'm assuming it's not due to crud build-up. legooolas has a new favorite as of 11:46 on Oct 17, 2022 |
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lobsterminator posted:That is a legend. And you have the correct ISO layout with a proper return key. Not that inferior american ANSI stuff. Even the cat likes it! evobatman posted:I have sold several stacks of these on Finn in the last few years, so there is a chance you got them from me. I've had mine for many years, but I don't think I've paid anything for them. I still have one NIB, and others in variying condition. I'd really like to get my Lifetime Designer going again, although it never fully recovered from when I spilled a can of coke in it:  Gun Metal Cray posted:Oh man, those are great. Too bad mine keep binding something firece for everyday use Try dismantling it and putting all the plastic parts in a dishwasher. Usually does wonders for mine!
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Oct 16, 2022 20:28
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This is a hilarious solution to the cost of training tank operators. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcQifPHcMLE
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Humphreys posted:This is a hilarious solution to the cost of training tank operators. I remember seeing one of those for training Tornado pilots back in the 90s on discovery Channel.
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Oct 18, 2022 17:56
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it's like a fancier version of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgLVuniuR70
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Humphreys posted:This is a hilarious solution to the cost of training tank operators. this is cool af, but I'd still want to wear a padded helmet in that thing lol.
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Oct 18, 2022 19:30
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Humphreys posted:This is a hilarious solution to the cost of training tank operators. Miniatures used to be common in simulators until computer graphics caught up. The simulators NASA had for Apollo used them. I read somewhere that Neil Armstrong crashed the LM simulator so badly it damaged the landing site miniature but I can’t find any reference to it anywhere.
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Bargearse posted:I read somewhere that Neil Armstrong crashed the LM simulator so badly it damaged the landing site miniature but I can’t find any reference to it anywhere. I know he crashed at least one lunar lander simulator, but it did a bit more damage than bending a miniature. 
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LostCosmonaut posted:I know he crashed at least one lunar lander simulator, but it did a bit more damage than bending a miniature. That’s what I get whenever I search for “Neil Armstrong simulator crash”. Training methods were hardcore back in the day.
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I know those guys were absolute daredevils that liked to gently caress with each other and play chicken, up to and including landing the lunar module on the moon. It would not surprise me if Armstrong was pulling a stunt.
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Star Man posted:I know those guys were absolute daredevils that liked to gently caress with each other and play chicken, up to and including landing the lunar module on the moon. It would not surprise me if Armstrong was pulling a stunt. They only gave Apollo 10’s lunar module descent stage 30% fuel so they wouldn’t be tempted to pull a fast one on NASA and land anyway.
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Bargearse posted:That’s what I get whenever I search for “Neil Armstrong simulator crash”. Training methods were hardcore back in the day. huh? this was his warmup
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Oct 21, 2022 08:16
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From The Earth To The Moon shows a situation where the camera for the lunar landing simulator crashes into the moon model. But the lunar lander test vehicles were insane. It was a jet engine pointing down to cancel out enough weight to make it weigh 1/6th to match moon gravity. And then there were thrusters to rotate it.
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Oct 21, 2022 20:01
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This is pretty amazing and wacky. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBCYvoC4muc
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Oct 22, 2022 07:16
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Oh keyboard chat, got this Apple Extended I hooked up with an ADB adapter, pretty good keys, no click, weird layout. I also have an AEK II in storage which is basically a modern keyboard in layout. The case has yellowed but all the keys except spacebar are PBT so they still hold up well.  Oh, and if anyone has a Sony MDS series MD recorder you might like this:  https://github.com/longview/SonyMDRemote I've got most of the features working outside of recording and track splitting.
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Oct 22, 2022 08:23
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lftkryo is a true mad genius and has been doing weird music machines for a while https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1pchpDD5EU he even worked on pocket operators for teenage engineering! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84GmFKL9PIY
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longview posted:Oh keyboard chat, got this Apple Extended I hooked up with an ADB adapter, pretty good keys, no click, weird layout.
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I have a Tinkerboy ADB to USB adaptor, and it lets me use my old Keytronics Mac Pro, which is a beast of a keyboard and has an awesome key feel.
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You Am I posted:Nice, I have a AEK II, works fine and have the Griffin ADB to USB adapter so I can use the keyboard on modern Macs. That and the IBM Model M I have are the two best keyboards ever made AEKII is my favorite keyboard ever. The feel and sounds of those keys are absolutely perfect IMO.
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You Am I posted:Nice, I have a AEK II, works fine and have the Griffin ADB to USB adapter so I can use the keyboard on modern Macs. That and the IBM Model M I have are the two best keyboards ever made I know it's not a real Model M but I tried one of the Unicomp M keyboards out of nostalgia after typing on Cherry Blues for a few years. I couldn't go back to the heavy weight of buckling springs and got actual fatigue typing on the M.
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I got a few Avermedia H727 Capture cards that do Composite, Svideo, Component and HDMI (!) for $15 a piece this afternoon. I think I spent 4 fucken hours trying to get them to work with Windows 10. It took me daring someone in a discord they couldn't find me the correct drivers. It ended up working with the WRONG model drivers. What I am getting at is I really really admire those that get retro computing stuff working. My devices were last updated in 2018 which is NOTHING in the grand scheme of things. Watching Tech Tangents reverse engineer his own disk drive card brought tears to my eyes in celebration for his efforts. Meanwhile here I am fuckassing about with a stupid card that the manufacturer has deleted off their support site.
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It's weird how often that's the case and you have to force-feed windows the "wrong" driver. This one springs to mind, he goes through the trouble of cloning the card from scans and then has to do exactly that: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0W1t2_EJG9w
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Mantle posted:I know it's not a real Model M but I tried one of the Unicomp M keyboards out of nostalgia after typing on Cherry Blues for a few years. I couldn't go back to the heavy weight of buckling springs and got actual fatigue typing on the M. Isn’t Unicomp just IBM’s keyboard manufacturing shop spun out into its own company though? It’s about as much of a Model M as you could hope for, really.
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Dewgy posted:Isn’t Unicomp just IBM’s keyboard manufacturing shop spun out into its own company though? It’s about as much of a Model M as you could hope for, really. I think the mechanisms are the same but there are differences in the quality of the keycaps and the mounting plate that affect the overall typing experience.
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I just want any kind of full size 101-key mechanical keyboard in the sub-$30 range. Preferably Cherry blues or a decent clone thereof. Preferably without rgb, I think it looks tacky and it's it's unnecessary addition to the cost.
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I think the key switches alone would cost more. I did once get an aliexpress keyboard with knockoff blues for around that, but beyond them making clicky noises they are definitely not like the Cherrys, and had quite a bit of slop to them.
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rndmnmbr posted:I just want any kind of full size 101-key mechanical keyboard in the sub-$30 range. Preferably Cherry blues or a decent clone thereof. Preferably without rgb, I think it looks tacky and it's it's unnecessary addition to the cost. https://www.eagletec.com/product-type/series/4/keyboards/Mechanical%20Keyboard just slightly outside of your price range but i've been very happy with the KG010 oh, also looks like they have <$30 models on page 2
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Mantle posted:I think the mechanisms are the same but there are differences in the quality of the keycaps and the mounting plate that affect the overall typing experience. Lately Unicomp has replaced most of their lineup with a "New Model M" which is made from new molds, replacing the decades-old original ones which were getting very worn out. I haven't had a chance to try one of those out yet, but reviewers seem to be loving it. Still, I've been very happy with what they'd been putting out before that. I have a Unicomp "Classic 101", and my one and only complaint is that the blue LEDs for num/caps/scroll lock are way too bright, so I dim them with a few layers clipped out of post-it notes. Other than that, it's my favorite keyboard I've ever used.
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To quote the original Reddit post: Look, either you want to watch a 43-minute-long slideshow of illustrations of spaceships and lasers and poo poo scored by Japanese jazz fusion legend Jun Fukamachi or you don't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leeHxccslHw
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boar guy posted:https://www.eagletec.com/product-type/series/4/keyboards/Mechanical%20Keyboard Oh hell, the very topmost keyboard is almost exactly what I'm looking for, and $41 is cheaper than anything else ive found with the full 101 keys. Thank you for that link. (I really want a Unicomp Model M, but I can't get over the hump of "it's just a keyboard, it's supposed to be cheap, I ain't spending that kind of money" etc. etc. Maybe one day I'll dig up an old IBM model M collectors have overlooked and do the mods to make it work with new systems) rndmnmbr has a new favorite as of 03:31 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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I am so confused reading about how the Unicomp Model M was somehow not great. Though I guess from this review I am having a hard time telling what was bad about the old ones other than the colors of the keycaps and the printing and feel and stuff, and as someone crazy enough to have blank black keycaps on a black keyboard maybe this is an issue I just was never going to encounter which is why I think it is the best keyboard I have owned
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