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Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
I have never refrigerated sesame oil.

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droll
Jan 9, 2020

by Azathoth
I used to follow the labels, if it says refrigerate, in it goes. Nothing about fridge? Cupboard.

But then I saw pearl river refrigerate and my whole world collapsed.

mystes
May 31, 2006

If the sesame oil goes rancid before you can finish it and you have the space in your refrigerator and want it to last longer then knock yourself out. I probably wouldn't bother since sesame oil isn't that expensive, though.

If it's poo poo like walnut oil that goes bad quickly and is hard to use up it makes more sense to refrigerate it imo

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

It just depends on how quickly you go through it. I go through two or three bottles a year and have never noticed the flavor change.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I refrigerate everything cause I am cooking for one so some of that poo poo is hanging around my place for a long rear end time before it runs out

Wonton
Jul 5, 2012
Lee kum kee is only good for soy sauces, light/dark/steam fish/ and oyster sauces.

Their dbj and anything spice related is garbage. That’s because Lee kum kee is a Hong Kong company catering to Cantonese tastes- can’t handle any spices.

Lao gan ma or anything in south west China should be a lot better

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Wonton posted:

Lee kum kee is only good for soy sauces, light/dark/steam fish/ and oyster sauces.

Their dbj and anything spice related is garbage. That’s because Lee kum kee is a Hong Kong company catering to Cantonese tastes- can’t handle any spices.

Lao gan ma or anything in south west China should be a lot better

your right... cantonese cuisine cant handle tastes

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.

Wonton posted:

Lee kum kee is only good for soy sauces, light/dark/steam fish/ and oyster sauces.

Their dbj and anything spice related is garbage. That’s because Lee kum kee is a Hong Kong company catering to Cantonese tastes- can’t handle any spices.

Lao gan ma or anything in south west China should be a lot better

I use LKK for anything that I very rarely use and better alternatives aren't immediately available. There is something to be said for convenience.

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008

Pillbug
If this is actually attempting to be doubanjiang, it is very bad at it. But it is delicious.

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

Doom Rooster posted:

If this is actually attempting to be doubanjiang, it is very bad at it. But it is delicious.



I disagree. I think it's very boring and flat, but if you like it then why not use it?

I do buy the big bags of the aged stuff about twice a year though. One of these years I will attempt to make it again at home. My last attempt I very much used the wrong peppers and it was not great. It was plenty of flavor, but the heat level was too much to use for others. Not everyone enjoys the more funky fermented flavors either, but they really make great to me.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Doom Rooster posted:

If this is actually attempting to be doubanjiang, it is very bad at it. But it is delicious.



:( I thought this stuff was the real stuff until I checked in this thread.

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


Raenir Salazar posted:

:( I thought this stuff was the real stuff until I checked in this thread.

I've just seen this and realised. What should I be looking for instead?

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008

Pillbug

Sir Sidney Poitier posted:

I've just seen this and realised. What should I be looking for instead?

This is the normal good stuff.




This is the more aged stuff.

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013
You should also know that the first one is already in oil, the second one needs to be fried in lower temp oil and has much larger pieces of bean and pepper. The difference is important if you're making hot pot more than stir frying something, as it won't be as fragrant without the fry in the oil first. I tend to give it a quick dice as well.

Human Tornada
Mar 4, 2005

I been wantin to see a honkey dance.
Yeah I find the larger chunks of beans and peppers a little unpleasant.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Jhet posted:

You should also know that the first one is already in oil, the second one needs to be fried in lower temp oil and has much larger pieces of bean and pepper. The difference is important if you're making hot pot more than stir frying something, as it won't be as fragrant without the fry in the oil first. I tend to give it a quick dice as well.

Tell me more about using it for hotpot

droll
Jan 9, 2020

by Azathoth

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

Tell me more about using it for hotpot

If you pay attention to a lot of the hotpot soup packages, many of the spicy ones are basically doubanjiang and Sichuan peppercorns plus some extra bits. Bloom it all and dump it in a broth.

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

Tell me more about using it for hotpot

https://www.chinasichuanfood.com/spicy-chicken-hot-pot/

Step 6 essentially. You just fry it up with the garlic and other aromatics. Follow as much or as little of the recipe as you want though, hot pot is very customizable. I'd just recommend using some sort of stock/bullion if you're not wanting to make your own. It's why I rarely buy the hot pot packets, I already have most everything in my pantry anyway. If you want to push the flavor a little more, fry the aromatics in lard or leftover bacon grease too.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Awesome. We do hotpot a lot, but I always use premade packets. And I have one of those envelopes of doubanjang in the pantry just waiting for me.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Doom Rooster posted:

This is the normal good stuff.




This is the more aged stuff.



Goddamnit I had a chance to get the aged stuff but I had no idea what it was and was afraid to ask a store clerk!

Wonton
Jul 5, 2012

fart simpson posted:

your right... cantonese cuisine cant handle tastes

Your taste buds are wrecked

Nickoten
Oct 16, 2005

Now there'll be some quiet in this town.

Human Tornada posted:

I've made that one, it's excellent and very rich even without the meat.

I was skeptical of beef instead of pork but a local takeout version won me over

Here's a vegetarian version I made served over tater tots


Hahaha I love this. However I am also a person who has on multiple occasions put leftover Mapo Tofu on hot dogs to make "mapo dogs", so my opinion is not necessarily to be trusted.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Nickoten posted:

Hahaha I love this. However I am also a person who has on multiple occasions put leftover Mapo Tofu on hot dogs to make "mapo dogs", so my opinion is not necessarily to be trusted.

That rules and I want to try it

marshalljim
Mar 6, 2013

yospos
Mapo dogs sound really good, tbh.

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



Wonton posted:

Lee kum kee is only good for soy sauces, light/dark/steam fish/ and oyster sauces.

Their dbj and anything spice related is garbage. That’s because Lee kum kee is a Hong Kong company catering to Cantonese tastes- can’t handle any spices.

Lao gan ma or anything in south west China should be a lot better

Their black pepper sauce is pretty good. Anything Cantonese they do is decent in a pinch.

Nickoten
Oct 16, 2005

Now there'll be some quiet in this town.
If by LKK's steamed fish soy sauce you mean their "seasoned soy sauce for sea food", yeah it's pretty great. I use it for yakiniku too.

Wonton
Jul 5, 2012
Yes “soy sauce for seafood” even though in Chinese it’s written as steam fish soy sauce :ohdear:

https://hk.lkk.com/en/products/seasoned-soy-sauce-for-seafood

It’s basically regular soy sauce cooked in scalding hot oil and scallions which you pour over your steamed fish or seafood at the last minute.

Basically the steam fish is supposed to be slightly undercooked but the thin coat of hot soy sauce makes the fish just right and let’s the meat flake when you use your chopsticks.

Looking at the US sent, I’m glad there’s finally the double fermented soy sauce. It’s not cheap, but using it makes your Cantonese cooking near top-level restaurant quality. There’s enough umami/fragrance without you needing to slather it all over your pan/wok.

Stuff like pearl and river bridge makes your food too salty too easily which gives you that syrupy takeout taste/texture

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
Is there a difference between Lao Gan Ma and sichuan chili oil?

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Raenir Salazar posted:

Is there a difference between Lao Gan Ma and sichuan chili oil?

yep. chili oil usually is just what it says on the tin, lao gan ma is a brand with a half dozen or so condiments at least. lao gan ma is less spicy and they have other things added in like dried beef or tofu or nuts and a few others

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

fart simpson posted:

yep. chili oil usually is just what it says on the tin, lao gan ma is a brand with a half dozen or so condiments at least. lao gan ma is less spicy and they have other things added in like dried beef or tofu or nuts and a few others

So for making Dan Dan noodles I want to try to find a jar that just says sichuan chili oil?

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

Raenir Salazar posted:

So for making Dan Dan noodles I want to try to find a jar that just says sichuan chili oil?

You can also make it yourself, but this has pictures to show you what it looks like.

https://thewoksoflife.com/dan-dan-noodles/

The difference is the Sichuan peppercorns in the oil.

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
Use a big pot or you will have hot oil all over your stove.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Who makes the tastiest msg I gotta pick some up for fried rice

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


It's all identical. If there's any difference it might be in the crystal size/shape but I have never paid any attention to that. Just grab whatever they have.

If you're new to MSG use a light touch. If you use too much you can get a weird unpleasant flavor.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Wowporn posted:

Who makes the tastiest msg I gotta pick some up for fried rice

I'm a fan of mushroom stock powder (I forget the brand though). Works in other stuff too.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

Wowporn posted:

Who makes the tastiest msg I gotta pick some up for fried rice
If you're just cooking at home then I'd recommend, believe it or not, McCormick. Reason being that, as Grand Fromage says, MSG is MSG so the product is going to be the same, and McCormick sells a container that's like a pound and a half or two pounds and has a nice lid: snap open and shut, and a slot for using a spoon that's like twice as big as the one on smaller spice jars. Container's a bit of an odd shape, but it's almost the same height as a quart mason jar so it sits on the shelf next to a mason jar of whatever starch I'm currently using as a thickener.

droll
Jan 9, 2020

by Azathoth
The ajimoto small hand shaker takes up no space, but I must not use that much msg if y'all are buying 2lbs lol. Fish sauce goes in Bolognese and chili etc maybe that's why.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.
I cook a lot, especially when the garden is producing.

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013
Yeah, 1# of MSG goes pretty quickly. I use it in western stuff all the time. It raises stews and braises to another level. It gets used almost as often as salt.

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droll
Jan 9, 2020

by Azathoth

Jhet posted:

Yeah, 1# of MSG goes pretty quickly. I use it in western stuff all the time. It raises stews and braises to another level. It gets used almost as often as salt.

1:1 ratio seems crazy high to me. I'm not saying anyone's wrong, just, woah.

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