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Madkal posted:What happened to Gambit and Rogue though as they aren't mentioned at all in New X-Men? Was there another team running around during New X-Men? Yep, they were in Claremont's X-Treme X-Men book at the time.
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Gambit and Rogue were in X-Treme X-Men. e: beaten like the '90s/'00s readers who were expecting prime-era Claremont and got... something else
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Yeah, Claremont got the X-Men who weren't being used... except for Beast who he had to give up pretty quickly early on.
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There was also Joe Casey's Uncanny which was... Logan, Iceman, Angel, Chamber, Nightcrawler, and his new character Stacy-X. Casey writes for 15 issues and an annual before giving way to Chuck Austen, who mixes up the team a bit and does a lot of completely insane things.
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How Wonderful! posted:There was also Joe Casey's Uncanny which was... Logan, Iceman, Angel, Chamber, Nightcrawler, and his new character Stacy-X. Casey writes for 15 issues and an annual before giving way to Chuck Austen, who mixes up the team a bit and does a lot of completely insane things. Is he the one that decided mutants can't get AIDS?
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So these were going on concurrent to New X-Men? Did they address the Genoshan genocide more? Also outside of the Austen run any of those worth tracking down/reading?
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And Angel and Husk gently caress In the sky With her entire family watching
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Madkal posted:So these were going on concurrent to New X-Men? Yep. I haven't read much of them yet myself, but X-Treme is probably worth a look as a time capsule.
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Rhyno posted:And Angel and Husk gently caress I have heard all the horror stories about Austen's run but for some reason I assumed it came after GMo's New X-men. I'm glad that there wasn't any bleed over between titles as I do hate the feeling I am getting half a story and I should be reading 5 other titles to understand what is going on (looking at your current Krokoan era books) but was wondering if there was other things going on while GMo basically reinvented/updated the X-Men franchise.
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Madkal posted:I have heard all the horror stories about Austen's run but for some reason I assumed it came after GMo's New X-men. I'm glad that there wasn't any bleed over between titles as I do hate the feeling I am getting half a story and I should be reading 5 other titles to understand what is going on (looking at your current Krokoan era books) but was wondering if there was other things going on while GMo basically reinvented/updated the X-Men franchise. They were two completely different worlds, despite Wolverine being in both books. It's thought Austen was trying to go hard on the Claremont-esque soap opera but he was really bad at it. Of course you also had X-Treme X-Men at the time which DID have Claremont-esque soap opera by Claremont himself and it was also not very good.
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How Wonderful! posted:There was also Joe Casey's Uncanny which was... Logan, Iceman, Angel, Chamber, Nightcrawler, and his new character Stacy-X. Casey writes for 15 issues and an annual before giving way to Chuck Austen, who mixes up the team a bit and does a lot of completely insane things. The Cerebro episode on Stacy X really made me interested in her, but it also made me feel like listening to that episode was better than actually reading her appearences.
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Anyone remember the name of the pre-knightfall batman comic where he has his back broken and has to transfer his mind into his GF/Nurse's brothers body to still fight crime?
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Cassa posted:Anyone remember the name of the pre-knightfall batman comic where he has his back broken and has to transfer his mind into his GF/Nurse's brothers body to still fight crime? Detective comics 598-600
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Mr Hootington posted:Detective comics 598-600 Thank you! Thought it was more standalone. Been compiling a lil pile of books that do the Bane thing pre-Dixon for a mate.
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Cassa posted:Thank you! Did you grab the first appearances of Venom and and the first appearances of the island it is made? Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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I remember reading some article on a Batman villain/story that was only maybe a couple years before Bane/Knightfall that reads like a trial run of it now.
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I sometimes wonder how different it'd have been if they'd gone with something like KGBeast, who had already gone the distance with Batman before and never had a decent rematch.Mr Hootington posted:Did you grab the first appearances of Venom and and the first appearances of the island it is made? Yeah I had that one, it's so good.
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Lobok posted:I remember reading some article on a Batman villain/story that was only maybe a couple years before Bane/Knightfall that reads like a trial run of it now. Batman #400 had Ra’s spring all the criminals from Arkham and Batman had to run the gauntlet.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Batman #400 had Ra’s spring all the criminals from Arkham and Batman had to run the gauntlet. There was specifically a villain though, not one of his usual. He was big and I wanna say he had a hood?
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Lobok posted:There was specifically a villain though, not one of his usual. He was big and I wanna say he had a hood? Lmao come on
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Mr Hootington posted:Lmao come on What? I didn't come into the thread asking people to solve the mystery, I just mentioned it because Cassa reminded me of it and it's exactly the kind of thing they're talking about. Google is garbage now so I don't know if I'll ever find the article again.
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Looks like it's that Bonecrusher guy, from the Detective Comics run mentioned above https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Detective_Comics_Vol_1_598 Agreed Batman #400 is also a really really cool comic, that was one of my fav stand alones.
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Lobok posted:What? I didn't come into the thread asking people to solve the mystery, I just mentioned it because Cassa reminded me of it and it's exactly the kind of thing they're talking about. Google is garbage now so I don't know if I'll ever find the article again. Cassa and I were talking about the exact run.
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Oh ok, I didn't remember that all the elements were the same.
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So I just saw this tweet and I'm wondering, who's the fourth? https://twitter.com/DanSchkade/status/1586206596832452608?s=20&t=4jviLKaLqC0nRnM-JRTcug There's Wanda, Pietro, Lorna and who else?
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Skwirl posted:So I just saw this tweet and I'm wondering, who's the fourth? Anya
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Possibly Zaladane
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How Wonderful! posted:Possibly Zaladane Wow, I completely forgot about Lorna's sister. Has she ever popped up again after... gosh, what was it, Uncanny #275 or around there?
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I think she died in her last appearance(killed by Magneto iirc) but that's hardly an impediment for a creative writer. If we want to add another name to the list there's technically also Alpha who has created by Magneto in a lab in an issue of The Defenders of all things.
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Defenders is also where Magneto was turned into a baby, enabling 20 years of related Claremont fetishes.
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How Wonderful! posted:Possibly Zaladane Came to post this
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How Wonderful! posted:Possibly Zaladane DC Database posted:Zaladane claimed that her real name was Zala Dane 
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Skwirl posted:So I just saw this tweet and I'm wondering, who's the fourth? Anya, who died in a fire as a child when a mob prevented Mags from saving her.
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I have a feeling it’s not worth tracking down all the books, so is there an explanation for going from “there are infinite earths now” after Metal to “omg Pariah is bringing back infinite earths” in Dark Crisis?
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Beerdeer posted:I have a feeling it’s not worth tracking down all the books, so is there an explanation for going from “there are infinite earths now” after Metal to “omg Pariah is bringing back infinite earths” in Dark Crisis? 1. There were infinite earths in a multiverse, and that multiverse was destroyed in Crisis on Infinite Earths. 2-100. Then a bunch of stuff happened before Death Metal came along, which results in there being a new infinite Multiverse but it's not the same as the one from before Crisis on Infinite Earths. 101. In Death Metal, the Dr. Bathattan Who Laughs eats the creator of the Multiverse(s) Perpetua and then eats the new multiverse but Wonder Woman becomes a God who creates a brand new Infinite Multiverse! Death Metal also introduces the concepts of the Omniverse, which is a multiverse of multiverses. 102. Pariah sees all of this and goes "wait no, what if all of this means I can bring back the original multiverse that I accidentally helped destroy back in the day? If I create another new multiverse and have that multiverse kill the current multiverse, then I can use that energy to re-create the old one!" The text itself does a terrible job of explaining that last part, but basically Pariah wants to destroy everything so he can recreate it in a 1985 style, erasing his culpability in destroying one multiverse by destroying multiple other multiverses.
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That actually makes sense as a motivation, thanks. Shame about the execution.
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I already apologize for asking this but what the hell does a multiverse of multiverses even mean?
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Madkal posted:I already apologize for asking this but what the hell does a multiverse of multiverses even mean? What's cooler than infinity? Infinity times infinity! (Double stamped, no erasies.)
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Mark Waid made a post asking if there's anywhere documenting the current DC multiverse and was astounded that not only did this not exist, there doesn't seem to be any particular agreement on what even constitutes the current multiverse.
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