quote:Libby German's grandmother and guardian, Becky Patty, was surprised to learn the man arrested for the murders of Libby and Abby Williams was a Delphi resident. whaaaattt nooooooo
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So the dude was local, possibly owned the land they were found on, and looks just like the guy in the video…. I really want to know why the hell it took so long to find him. There’s definitely a story there.
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Oct 31, 2022 21:32
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Holy poo poo, they identified the Lady in the Dunes. https://twitter.com/CourthouseNews/status/1587178845505220608 I wonder if there's any bone material left of the Boy in the Box?
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Oct 31, 2022 21:33
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Ok genealogists now do the Isdal Woman
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Oct 31, 2022 23:12
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At this rate, they’ll find out who put Bella in the wych elm by the end of the week.
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Nov 1, 2022 00:05
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R.L. Stine posted:Arrest made in Delphi double murder case (the creepy one with the phone footage) So the guy who was catfishing teenage girls on Instagram is just a regular pervert and these girls crossed paths with two predators in 24 hours? I'm starting to think that girls/women might have it harder than men in some respects.
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Nov 1, 2022 00:28
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Holy poo poo, they identified the Lady in the Dunes. But WAS she in Jaws???
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Nov 1, 2022 02:31
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SamLikesCake posted:Fantastic news, if he’s the guy. Is this the same person who owned the land where the girls were found? BrianRx posted:So the guy who was catfishing teenage girls on Instagram is just a regular pervert and these girls crossed paths with two predators in 24 hours? I'm starting to think that girls/women might have it harder than men in some respects. IIRC the perv you're referring to was confirmed to have had electronic contact with Libby the day before the murders, and they had made plans to meet on the day of the murders. Of course there's a ton of speculation and confusion because 1) all the records around the arrest/case are sealed and 2) local LE has been going on for years about how "we know who did this and we're just waiting to prove it but no we can't even release a cause of death".
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Nov 1, 2022 03:01
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Vorenus posted:IIRC the perv you're referring to was confirmed to have had electronic contact with Libby the day before the murders, and they had made plans to meet on the day of the murders. Yeah, that's the one. That was the last thing I heard about the case and it sounded like they were getting ready to charge him, though that might have been YouTube hyperbole. Weird, weird coincidence.
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Nov 1, 2022 03:26
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Vorenus posted:Of course there's a ton of speculation and confusion because 1) all the records around the arrest/case are sealed and 2) local LE has been going on for years about how "we know who did this and we're just waiting to prove it but no we can't even release a cause of death". It was cops or judge
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Nov 2, 2022 01:03
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Aaaaaaarrrrrggggg posted:Right? If that's the case, loving walk away. Get help. Take a sabbatical. What you don't do is double down and ruin people's lives. Unfortunately mental health services for social workers are usually grossly insufficient if they're available at all. Though most of them just have the decency to quit or develop a drinking problem rather than start an unhinged moral crusade that causes their entire community to live in terror and misery.
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Nov 2, 2022 12:53
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Acute Grill posted:Unfortunately mental health services for social workers are usually grossly insufficient if they're available at all. Though most of them just have the decency to quit or develop a drinking problem rather than start an unhinged moral crusade that causes their entire community to live in terror and misery. I'm curious about this. Do you mean that there aren't many social work-specific therapists available? Or a lack of a peer support concept? I work part time in fire/EMS and we have employee assistance programs and peer support groups (of which I'm a member of) who are specially trained to work with, identify, and refer to general counselors. It would really be surprising if a field so exposed to mental trauma wouldn't have something similar.
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Nov 2, 2022 14:26
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Social work is a remarkably churn-and-burn profession. Flip a coin to see if the support networks in your area believe in any kind of mental health treatment besides AA and AA-based programs.
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Nov 2, 2022 14:41
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I wonder how they came up with two totally different sketches of the Delphi suspect and told everyone to forget the one that actually looked like the guy.
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Nov 2, 2022 15:24
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Can we just talk about how useless the forensic reconstructions were   real photo 
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Nov 2, 2022 15:39
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What?? Something law enforcement related is a useless grift? 
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Nov 2, 2022 16:05
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It is funny to do those when the age range you have for the decedent is more than 20 years.
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Nov 2, 2022 16:09
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i'm not sure ANY of the "forensics" poo poo isn't ultimately guesswork, hope and grift in a proportion that varies according to the personal practicioner. blood spatter, fingerprints (in a forensic setting; they work fine as identification under controlled circumstances but not when lifted in distorted form from random objects), bite mark/toothmark analysis, and facial reconstruction are all unreliable. the insect stuff they're learning from body farms is the only forensics thing i can think of off-hand that hasn't already been denigrated, and then the denigration utterly ignored because our culture loves thinking police can science to fight evil criminal like tv
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Nov 2, 2022 17:08
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Aaaaaaarrrrrggggg posted:I'm curious about this. Do you mean that there aren't many social work-specific therapists available? Or a lack of a peer support concept? I work part time in fire/EMS and we have employee assistance programs and peer support groups (of which I'm a member of) who are specially trained to work with, identify, and refer to general counselors. It would really be surprising if a field so exposed to mental trauma wouldn't have something similar. Halloween Jack posted:Social work is a remarkably churn-and-burn profession. Flip a coin to see if the support networks in your area believe in any kind of mental health treatment besides AA and AA-based programs. Basically this. Usually very little in the way of peer support and EAP to find a counselor is only going to be useful if you actually have therapists in your area who are taking on new patients.
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Nov 2, 2022 19:22
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That’s assuming you even get EAP benefits and aren’t classified as a consultant or something.
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Nov 2, 2022 19:51
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FishBulbia posted:Can we just talk about how useless the forensic reconstructions were I like how Axl Rose is in the bottom left of the six pictures
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Nov 3, 2022 02:22
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InediblePenguin posted:i'm not sure ANY of the "forensics" poo poo isn't ultimately guesswork, hope and grift in a proportion that varies according to the personal practicioner. blood spatter, fingerprints (in a forensic setting; they work fine as identification under controlled circumstances but not when lifted in distorted form from random objects), bite mark/toothmark analysis, and facial reconstruction are all unreliable. the insect stuff they're learning from body farms is the only forensics thing i can think of off-hand that hasn't already been denigrated, and then the denigration utterly ignored because our culture loves thinking police can science to fight evil criminal like tv DNA is good if they don't deliberately gently caress it up.
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Nov 3, 2022 02:33
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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:I like how Axl Rose is in the bottom left of the six pictures lol saw that too
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Nov 3, 2022 02:48
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Tunicate posted:DNA is good if they don't deliberately gently caress it up. forgot about that hair and fiber analysis are bullshit though.thought of that because at one point i thought "hair analysis" was a dna analysis and only recently learned that most hair can't be used for a DNA analysis and "forensic fiber analysis" consists of looking at it through a microscope and saying whether or not it looks similar to another fiber you're also looking at through the microscope. all the tools i've mentioned can work to exclude a suspect but can't actually prove any positives and culture makes it all seem so very, very scientific and real (because we must not shake the table upon which is the police state house of cards)
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Nov 3, 2022 03:08
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I will do anything to find that sweet child o mine, including forensic reconstructions.
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Nov 3, 2022 09:32
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Tunicate posted:DNA is good if they don't deliberately gently caress it up. Doesn't even have to be deliberate either: quote:DNA analysis can become even trickier when a mix of DNA from various potential suspects is found in a single crime scene sample. With a simple sample, analysts look at two sets of peaks at a given locus: one for the victim and one for the perpetrator. With mixtures, they're looking at bunches of peaks, with no indication of which pairs go together, or which source they came from—aside from those of the known victim. At that point the analysis becomes highly subjective. https://www.science.org/content/article/forensics-gone-wrong-when-dna-snares-innocent
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Nov 3, 2022 09:45
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGny_s9908Y Delphi judge has recused himself, citing that he felt unsafe. His loving family got doxxed on youtube, presumably by true crime dipshits
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Nov 5, 2022 17:53
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Husband did it https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/11/03/metro/husband-lady-dunes-killed-provincetown-1974-also-suspected-seattle-double-slaying-1960/
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chandler-halderson-wisconsin-double-murder-bart-and-krista-halderson-48-hours/?intcid=CNI-00-10aaa3b Came across this randomly. Not a fan of the article format, but the story fits the thread well. College student lies to everyone about having an IT degree and working for SpaceX. Gets found out by his parents, so he murders them and involves his unwitting girlfriend. A big piece of evidence is from his girlfriend's phone - he agreed to let her see his location in snapchat after being caught cheating on her, which allows police to figure out where he dumped some of the remains. His response to being convicted? "Your Honor, I want to take this opportunity to state my intent to appeal my convictions. If there are any lawyers listening and willing to take on my appeal, take a moment to please reach out to me. It's not that I do not have feelings, it is that I was warned to not show them due to the scrutiny of this case. Thank you."
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Vorenus posted:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chandler-halderson-wisconsin-double-murder-bart-and-krista-halderson-48-hours/?intcid=CNI-00-10aaa3b Matt Orchard did a video about this dweeb that's pretty good as well: https://youtu.be/ozdL1lEA3Bg.
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Nov 6, 2022 19:47
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That one was very popular among true crime youtubers because the dude lied about everything. Lied about having a job and kept telling his parents the company was loving up his direct deposit, lied about going to school, would get up early and rope his gaming buddies in to pretending to do work calls with him, lied about getting the Space X job and planning to move to Florida with his girlfriend, lied about sustaining a concussion to the point of wearing a neck brace to try to kick the ball further down the field. Killed his parents when his dad finally called the school and found out he wasn't enrolled and that all the school officials he'd been communicating with were made-up and set up a meeting with his son to go to the school.
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Nov 7, 2022 15:27
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One of the more 'what?!?!' moments of that story was the guy's gaming buddy just gifting him an SKS because he liked it in CoD. Please don't give random people you meet gaming semi-auto rifles.
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Nov 7, 2022 16:22
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I feel like if you have that kind of initiative and ambition you could probably get a job in the aeronautics industry. Instead of killing your whole family because they found out you don't work for the biggest dorkwad on the planet.
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Nov 7, 2022 16:27
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This seems like a lot more work than just getting your A+, Network+, and Security+ certificates by watching youtube videos and paying the 200 bucks for each test. That's all most IT degrees entail.
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Nov 7, 2022 18:18
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Story is also a return of the classic "It Is Much Harder To Burn Bodies Than You Think" trope
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Nov 7, 2022 18:54
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Terrible Opinions posted:This seems like a lot more work than just getting your A+, Network+, and Security+ certificates by watching youtube videos and paying the 200 bucks for each test. That's all most IT degrees entail. Yeah all that poo poo had to be way more mentally/emotionally exhausting than just doing the actual stuff.
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Nov 8, 2022 00:25
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Halloween Jack posted:I feel like if you have that kind of initiative and ambition you could probably get a job in the aeronautics industry. Instead of killing your whole family because they found out you don't work for the biggest dorkwad on the planet. He's the Ferris Bueller of murder
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Nov 8, 2022 00:35
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Groovelord Neato posted:Yeah all that poo poo had to be way more mentally/emotionally exhausting than just doing the actual stuff. Classic Sunk Cost Fallacy and Learned Helplessness tropes!
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Nov 8, 2022 03:11
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FishBulbia posted:One of the more 'what?!?!' moments of that story was the guy's gaming buddy just gifting him an SKS because he liked it in CoD. Please don't give random people you meet gaming semi-auto rifles.
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Elysiume posted:Were they old friends or something? The list of people that I'd buy a $500 gift for on a whim is pretty short. He was a troop stationed in Germany when they met and he drove hundreds of miles to Wisconsin to give him the gun. I mean, I'm sure Chandler would've found a way, but I can't help but think that the murders wouldn't have happened if someone didn't literally hand him a gun, considering how lazy and inept he seems.
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