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Been replaying Human Revolution Director's Cut with the commentary on and I love it. There's so many details in the game that they point out that I never even noticed or cool things about the development that they talk about. More games should have developer commentary. edit: I NEVER EVEN NOTICED THAT DOLL 
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Big Scary Owl posted:Been replaying Human Revolution Director's Cut with the commentary on and I love it. There's so many details in the game that they point out that I never even noticed or cool things about the development that they talk about. More games should have developer commentary. Yeah the HR commentary is great, it's made me replay it more than most games. Also I feel an MD commentary would be "we wanted to do this, but got told no, just focus on the cash-ins..."
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Sep 21, 2022 02:59
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Oh shiz I forgot about that commentary. Time to play the game again. I guess I’ll finally just go full bloodshed for once instead of my normal Thiefsie style.
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Sep 21, 2022 07:15
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aniviron posted:MD also had the cash shop on launch, where you could buy praxis etc. for cash. Gross. Not sure if that's still online or not, but it left a bad taste in a lot of peoples' mouths. You could buy in game money for cash. It was revolting.
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Sep 21, 2022 10:08
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sebmojo posted:You could buy in game money for cash. It was revolting. Yeah and there was nothing to buy either it was vile and useless.
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Sep 21, 2022 10:19
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Was there anything to stop you from just cheating to get money/Praxis?
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Sep 21, 2022 19:47
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Casimir Radon posted:Was there anything to stop you from just cheating to get money/Praxis? Honour (no)
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Sep 22, 2022 02:36
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I definitely used the debug menu and cheated myself enough praxis to fill all the hacking skills because I loving hate that minigame
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Sep 22, 2022 02:48
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It's funny, because as a person who's spend far too much time thinking about hacking minigames, HR's take on it is one of the best I've seen. Probably doesn't mean much if you don't want to do it in the first place, admittedly.
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Sep 22, 2022 03:31
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my toxic trait is i will almost always like a hacking minigame
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Sep 22, 2022 03:51
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I also am a hater of minigames in general but found the hacking one tolerable. But like all minigames, after 100 times please don't make me do it anymore, I'm begging you for a skill check.
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Sep 22, 2022 03:57
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mankind divided at least added multitools, the problem being it still heavily incentivizes you doing every single hack yourself via xp, money, and hacking prgrams
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Sep 22, 2022 04:11
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Yeah it's a good hacking minigame as far as those go but drat do I just not want to do them on the fourth playthrough.
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Sep 22, 2022 04:17
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Just give all the hacking minigames you skipped to me. I will do them forever. MD did make them worse though by adding a bunch of fog.
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Sep 22, 2022 04:33
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Serephina posted:It's funny, because as a person who's spend far too much time thinking about hacking minigames, HR's take on it is one of the best I've seen. In my first playthrough of HR, I talked my way past the guy at the police front desk and then went around hacking every computer I could find in the building - partly for XP but largely because I remember just really enjoying the mini-game.
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Sep 22, 2022 08:49
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Apparently they made a Playstation version of the OG DX, any one play it? Was it worse than the Xbox version of the sequel?
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It's generally faithful, but they had to chop up the levels to save memory and considering how much level design is a part of an imsims identity, its a pretty big drawback (you can no longer jump to Jock's apartment from Maggie Chow's). Some nice little graphical upgrades here and there but even that they screwed up a little, NPC eyes look a bit odd. The gamepad controls suuuck, but I think it's one of the few PS2 games with KB/M support? A mixed bag.
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Wasn't that the version with FMV endings? Might have been the intro too but I can't remember off the top of my head.
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Oct 6, 2022 03:00
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Yeah they redid the intro and endings as pre-rendered cutscenes.
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SCheeseman posted:The gamepad controls suuuck, but I think it's one of the few PS2 games with KB/M support? It is, but it's an undocumented feature without any menus for rebinding so you were stuck with the bizarre default binds from the PC version IIRC the PS2 version of UT99 also supported keyboard and mouse, it must have been a default feature of the engine repiv fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Oct 6, 2022 |
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Oct 6, 2022 12:35
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Outpost22 posted:Apparently they made a Playstation version of the OG DX, any one play it? Was it worse than the Xbox version of the sequel?
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SCheeseman posted:I think it's one of the few PS2 games with KB/M support? I need to test this. If this is true, that's a game changer and I play it under emulation even though I own the game and a functional PS2. repiv posted:It is, but it's an undocumented feature without any menus for rebinding so you were stuck with the bizarre default binds from the PC version Still worth trying. I cannot overstate how important mouse aim/look is to me. JustJeff88 fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Oct 6, 2022 |
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Oct 6, 2022 16:42
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Speaking of details you've never noticed, the NSF network pic show the Stars and Stripes without the stars, which makes a whole lot of sense once you stop and think about it. Also, for all the apparent right-wing talking points (eg. Leon Woods and his hard-on for Second Amendment rights), the NSF is pretty much a Guevarist resistance movement, with a thoroughly anti-capitalist streak. I am prone to overthinking; then again, Deus Ex, of all things, turned me 180 on my ideological evolution with a single sentence from Paul Denton - because I overthink.
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Tagaziel posted:I am prone to overthinking; then again, Deus Ex, of all things, turned me 180 on my ideological evolution with a single sentence from Paul Denton - because I overthink.
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Oct 6, 2022 21:52
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Right Wingers can also be anti capitalist
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Gaius Marius posted:Right Wingers can also be anti capitalist Sure, but upon closer look, I don't really see much of right-wing rhetoric in the NSF. Hell, even the Leon Woods/Second Amendment thing is because the topic has been hijacked by the far right, rather than any inherent rightness of owning firearms. "A few bureaucrats in New York can't make good decisions for New Jersey, let alone Paris or a village in China."
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JustJeff88 posted:Thank you. I'll have a peek.
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Tagaziel posted:Sure, but upon closer look, I don't really see much of right-wing rhetoric in the NSF. Hell, even the Leon Woods/Second Amendment thing is because the topic has been hijacked by the far right, rather than any inherent rightness of owning firearms. I think the NSF was originally a right wing militia movement but after discovering the govt doing the grey death to kill the poors they were so horrified that they teamed up with antifa and situationists to smash the state, and by the time of deus ex they’re basically left anarchists that just have some vestigial right wing aesthetics. A wildly optimistic 90s assumption of how genuine right wing militias were with their small govt rhetoric
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I get the feeling that the NSF isn't totally unified in its ideology, which is common for separatist/guerilla movements. After all, its geographic area encompasses both Seattle and Ruby Ridge.
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aniviron posted:I get the feeling that the NSF isn't totally unified in its ideology, which is common for separatist/guerilla movements. After all, its geographic area encompasses both Seattle and Ruby Ridge. There is that one dialogue between two NSF guys on Liberty Island where one of them just dismisses the other's fear of augmentation as rhetoric, so yeah I imagine it's not a totally unified front. FrancisFukyomama posted:I think the NSF was originally a right wing militia movement but after discovering the govt doing the grey death to kill the poors they were so horrified that they teamed up with antifa and situationists to smash the state, and by the time of deus ex they’re basically left anarchists that just have some vestigial right wing aesthetics. Also this. The game does make some assumptions about what the fringes of society were really after in the 90s The prequels seem to trend more that the origins of the National Secessionist Forces were far more right-wing, considering the "New Sons of Freedom" just have a straight-up Punisher skull in their logo.
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Xander77 posted:Thoughts? Going to be honest... I completely forgot about Dex and have not looked into the matter. I had to flip back several pages to remind myself what I was supposed to 'peek at'.
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FrancisFukyomama posted:I think the NSF was originally a right wing militia movement but after discovering the govt doing the grey death to kill the poors they were so horrified that they teamed up with antifa and situationists to smash the state, and by the time of deus ex they’re basically left anarchists that just have some vestigial right wing aesthetics. aniviron posted:I get the feeling that the NSF isn't totally unified in its ideology, which is common for separatist/guerilla movements. After all, its geographic area encompasses both Seattle and Ruby Ridge. This makes a lot of sense (and, well, DX isn't prescient or perfect in its writing, so I try to keep up in mind). It's also possible that I'm looking through it through a lens benefitting from hindsight, and a lot of my perception is colored by the endemic racism in the current breed of fash, so Colonel Leo Gold at the Statue really stands out, as does his rhetoric that has a lot of overtones similar to historic labor movements in the US. Angry_Ed posted:Also this. The game does make some assumptions about what the fringes of society were really after in the 90s Yeah, that stands out like a sore thumb. Adds a fun little wrinkle to what Francis noted (or the far right became ablative armor).
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Watching a walkthrough of DX1 and the guy encounters a 7-digit gatecode and is like "lol what if I try 867-5309?" The look on his face when it actually works is classic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE-NmjKw4pU&t=1151s (19:10 if the timestamp doesn't work)
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Seventh Arrow posted:Watching a walkthrough of DX1 and the guy encounters a 7-digit gatecode and is like "lol what if I try 867-5309?" I want to be a party pooper and say that any streamer being amazed by a random happenstance has been heavily premeditated, but screw that - good on him! There was also a similarly stupid long code later in the game, I think it was at the surface level of the missile launch site in the guard shack at the back, that I never figured out what it was. Maybe 5-6 digits in length and wasn't written down anywhere? Was it also a funny cameo code? I also was puzzled by the two-digit code to get under the fist-grasping-globe statue in the mj12 base, and after brute-strengthing it surprisingly quickly was rather upset at myself.
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https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/a-new-deus-ex-is-reportedly-in-early-development-at-eidos-montreal/
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I asked for this.
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quote:“Eidos Montreal, which remains intact, canceled the Stranger Things-inspired ‘kids on bikes’ game that was rumored recently,” Ah the kids on bikes genre
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Another finger on the giant hand above the globe in MJ12 headquarters curls.
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Vic posted:Ah the kids on bikes genre In keeping with Stranger Things' 80s aesthetic it was just going to be a clone of Kikstart 2 on the C64
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https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/embracer-group-shuts-down-montreal-video-game-studio-1.1840243Embracer Group shuts down Montreal video game studio posted:Video game publisher Embracer Group AB is shutting down Onoma, a Montreal, Canada-based video game studio that it acquired just months ago.
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