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Kvlt! posted:After WWE banned blading/blood, how do they deal with just natural cuts/injuries/blood during a match? Like you get thrown into the turnbuckle and genuinely get a little cut, but blood is banned, what happens? match was stopped dead, referee donned gloves and checked on the cut they once tried this with samoa joe and he basically threw the ref out of the way to continue the match i don't think they do this anymore
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if you bleed you bleed and they just go with it. there were only a few times early on in the late 00s where they would halt matches completely to try to stop blood but it proved disruptive to the show. also if you're liked by management or they just want a match to get over they look the other way on it entirely.
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Oct 27, 2022 19:02
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I was listening to a shoot where someone lied about blading and they said that they got a call that the tape shows that they did it intentionally so I assume they would be ok if it happens naturally but they do look.
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Oct 27, 2022 19:06
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Kvlt! posted:After WWE banned blading/blood, how do they deal with just natural cuts/injuries/blood during a match? Like you get thrown into the turnbuckle and genuinely get a little cut, but blood is banned, what happens? Intentional blading was banned, though that didn't stop HHH/Undertaker and really who's gonna tell them no anyway. As others mentioned, the ref would get gloves and check it and if it was bad enough, the medics would check it out. It really killed matches. I think maybe there are also some states where legally they have to have a medic at ringside and stop a match if there's an injury like that?
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Oct 27, 2022 19:51
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Kvlt! posted:After WWE banned blading/blood, how do they deal with just natural cuts/injuries/blood during a match? Like you get thrown into the turnbuckle and genuinely get a little cut, but blood is banned, what happens? The latter. Although it's not really consistent because they have also had a match in recent memory where we were supposed to think that Rey Mysterio's eye fell out of it's socket
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Oct 27, 2022 20:05
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They also had Lesnar open up Randy Orton hard way on purpose because a concussion is somehow better than blading.
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Oct 27, 2022 20:07
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:They also had Lesnar open up Randy Orton hard way on purpose because a concussion is somehow better than blading. Then Jericho got in Brock's face
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Oct 27, 2022 20:14
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Why did Vince stop using Trump properties for events after the eighties? It's not like he ever removed his tongue from his rear end in a top hat.
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Nov 1, 2022 19:51
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Why did Vince stop using Trump properties for events after the eighties? It's not like he ever removed his tongue from his rear end in a top hat. Because Trump didn't actually own that arena he paid for the event and for it to be said to be from the Trump Plaza. I don't think Trump owned any arenas.
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Nov 1, 2022 20:03
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And all this time I thought it was an arena in one of the Atlantic City casinos or hotels he ran into the ground.
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Nov 1, 2022 20:05
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Pope Corky the IX posted:And all this time I thought it was an arena in one of the Atlantic City casinos or hotels he ran into the ground. Nope, same arena Tyson fought in and AEW is running Friday (Also the setting for the underrated Cage/Sinise film Snake Eyes.) But hey the trick worked.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:And all this time I thought it was an arena in one of the Atlantic City casinos or hotels he ran into the ground. it was at the Atlantic City Boardwalk Hall, which was adjacent to Trump Plaza before the Plaza closed and was torn down but never owned by Trump
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Nov 1, 2022 20:07
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I mean, the place looked like poo poo regardless, especially after III was in the Silverdome. Just like a big tent with cheap Christmas lights.
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Nov 1, 2022 20:13
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MassRafTer posted:Nope, same arena Tyson fought in and AEW is running Friday (Also the setting for the underrated Cage/Sinise film Snake Eyes.) But hey the trick worked. I hope they set up the entrance with the 400 yard long stairway
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Nov 1, 2022 22:08
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Intentional blading was banned, though that didn't stop HHH/Undertaker and really who's gonna tell them no anyway. I don't know about stopping matches, but I do know AEW got fined after the first Full Gear in Maryland because Maryland's athletic commission doesn't allow wrestlers to bleed intentionally. (I don't think anyone actually bladed, but they did do a bunch of barbed wire stuff during the Moxley/Omega match that probably counted.)
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Nov 1, 2022 22:34
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CellBlock posted:I don't know about stopping matches, but I do know AEW got fined after the first Full Gear in Maryland because Maryland's athletic commission doesn't allow wrestlers to bleed intentionally. (I don't think anyone actually bladed, but they did do a bunch of barbed wire stuff during the Moxley/Omega match that probably counted.) the funny part about this is that they were only fined because former WCW Pro commentator Chris Cruise snitched them out because he hated AEW for some reason
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Nov 1, 2022 22:38
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I'm surprised AEW has to answer to an athletic commission, I guess I always assumed WWE getting out of it applied across the wrestling world.
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Kvlt! posted:I'm surprised AEW has to answer to an athletic commission, I guess I always assumed WWE getting out of it applied across the wrestling world. WWE has to deal with the same athletic commissions.
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Nov 1, 2022 22:56
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Shows how much I know about the business side then. Never knew that!
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WWE's been travelling country wide for so long that they know what they can do where so it doesn't come up because they just know what to work around (and probably who to bribe)
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:Hello, perhaps this thread can help me find a very specific WWF moment. I don't know if it was Raw or Smackdown, but I'm inclined to say Raw. Basically, something happened and (I think) Stephanie slapped Austin while he was holding a steel chair, and it slowly dawned on him that he had full carte blanche to nail Stephanie in the head now. I don't believe he actually did it, but it was wild to see 20,000 fans just begging this guy to whack her with the chair. bump. curious if anyone knows this.
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MassRafTer posted:WWE has to deal with the same athletic commissions.
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I thought it was partially worked, weren't the points heavily rigged towards the people who were supposed to win?
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pseudodragon posted:WWE's been travelling country wide for so long that they know what they can do where so it doesn't come up because they just know what to work around (and probably who to bribe) In the case of Full Gear it was more that one guy got really angry about it and cop called to the AC demanding they do something.
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Nov 2, 2022 02:01
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Alaois posted:the funny part about this is that they were only fined because former WCW Pro commentator Chris Cruise snitched them out because he hated AEW for some reason I think Chris Cruise hates everyone. I saw him on a panel show on TV once, a few years after he had left the business, Buck Woodward was also on it I think? He seemed like the most bitter guy, with a vendetta against everyone, and the others on the show basically said as much.
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Kosmo Gallion posted:I thought it was partially worked, weren't the points heavily rigged towards the people who were supposed to win?
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Nov 2, 2022 14:31
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It's why Barton won, he just legit beat the others to the point they couldn't work the results. And then refused to let Butterbean work the boxing match.
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Nov 2, 2022 14:48
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Gaz-L posted:It's why Barton won, he just legit beat the others to the point they couldn't work the results. And then refused to let Butterbean work the boxing match. This story has the perfect mix of emotions: loathing for WWE for being such short-sighted and and petty idiots, sympathy for Bart for doing his job and being shoved face-first into an approaching freight train, and  for Butterbean for offering to work the match and being very chill about everything.
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Nov 2, 2022 16:05
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Bart Gunn won and basically made the WWE look like fools and then got blasted by Butterbean so that everyone came out looking like fools. It's pretty astounding.
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On one hand why absolutely destroy bart gun and by extension anyone he ever beat credibility by having butter bean wreck him. On the other hand, a worked boxing match would be rear end so I can see the allure of telling bean put him down quick af. The best play was to never have the brawl for all or just not have the bean match at all.
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Nov 2, 2022 16:52
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What, you didn't like Piper vs Mr. T?
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They should have worked the fight. Bart Gunn could use wrestling skillz to dumbfound and outwit the boxer and the finish would have been a Canadian Destroyer off the top rope.
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There were many problems with the Brawl 4 All, including multiple incredibly stupid problems. But the basic problem is that "Now our wrestlers are going to fight for real!" is just taking a great big steaming poo poo on your own product.
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Streetbeefs is the only kind of fighting I want to see outside of prowrestling. Two complete amateurs with no regard for trainibg or conditioning throwing wide rear end punches and tackles.
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The best thing that resulted from the Brawl for All was the DSOTR episode detailing it, specifically the bit where The Godfather described how his then-wife got pissed at him for losing and blamed the loss on the massive amount of pot he'd smoked before the fight
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Defenestrategy posted:On one hand why absolutely destroy bart gun and by extension anyone he ever beat credibility by having butter bean wreck him. On the other hand, a worked boxing match would be rear end so I can see the allure of telling bean put him down quick af. Considering the goal of the BFA was to anoint Steve Williams and make him a challenger for Austin (was briefly tempted to say 'for Steve Williams') and when that didn't happen because while Doc was probably tougher than average guy he hadn't ever done anything close to even the weird MMA hybrid in the Brawl in years, they didn't have any clue how to proceed and were just kind of locked into finishing it. Barry Bluejeans posted:The best thing that resulted from the Brawl for All was the DSOTR episode detailing it, specifically the bit where The Godfather described how his then-wife got pissed at him for losing and blamed the loss on the massive amount of pot he'd smoked before the fight My favorite story is when they told the guys that it was going to be anything goes Steve Blackman reportedly immediately raised his hand and asked if that meant you could low kick people and blow their knees out. The rules were then quickly revised.
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jesus WEP posted:how did Brawl For All get cleared? did they just lie and say it was worked? The ACs more existed at that point to get license and other fees and maybe make sure there was an ambulance at the venue not regulate the "sport" of pro wrestling. So I believe they just ran them and the commissions didn't really think twice about it. Plus it's not like The Sport of Brawl For All was something they had rules and regulations for anyway.
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Sandman McMahon posted:They should have worked the fight. Bart Gunn could use wrestling skillz to dumbfound and outwit the boxer and the finish would have been a Canadian Destroyer off the top rope. This is why it owned that Wardlow did a flying headscissors in his fake MMA match with Jake Hager.
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Halloween Jack posted:There were many problems with the Brawl 4 All, including multiple incredibly stupid problems. But the basic problem is that "Now our wrestlers are going to fight for real!" is just taking a great big steaming poo poo on your own product. see also: Inoki making Yuji Nagata do shoot fights
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CombineThresher posted:This is why it owned that Wardlow did a flying headscissors in his fake MMA match with Jake Hager. that match was so good
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