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Cessna posted:I could easily be tempted to start a Sisters of Silence army. Right? Reading the Watchers of the Throne duology hasn't helped quench the notion.
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Tiny Chalupa posted:Okay.... serious question. How do you, or did you, pick which legion or army to play? First, the Imperial Fists Legiones Astartes benefits are not gamebreaking. It’s easy to get their benefit, and access happens in the listbuilding stage rather than in a situation in-game, so their upsides are more obvious than some other Legiones Astartes. But a completely normal Legiones Astartes Imperial Fists list is not remarkably powerful or obnoxious until you start adding Rites of War. With that out of the way: I personally did a double-elimination bracket based on the 8-9 things that were most important to me. (I knew immediately that two Legions were too idiotic for me, so they did not make the bracket.) This process wasn't dispositive, but thinking through it helped me figure out what I wanted from the game. After working through most of the double-elimination brackets, I ended up with a shortlist of five: Word Bearers, Sons of Horus, Alpha Legion, and Ultramarines. I eliminated Ultramarines because I knew I would get tired of blue way too quickly. I also didn’t like their models as much as the eventual winner’s. I eliminated Word Bearers because their character sculpts (pre Argel Tal) were too lame, and they were just a little too cartoonishly evil. I eliminated Alpha Legion because “convert every model in the army” was a hope/dream of mine and I felt like their fluff would make me struggle with the idiosyncrasies. I eliminated Space Wolves because at the time [right after Book V], they didn’t have rules, and I knew I liked the eventual winner too much, and I had a slight preference for Traitor. I picked Sons of Horus because -At the time, they were the third- or fourth-worst Legion, and I’m a lovely snowflake -At the time, the only way to do their color scheme was by mixing paints, and I’m a lovely snowflake -Their fluff gave me lots of idea for how to make each model a lovely snowflake just like me -They’re bad guys, so I don’t feel bad about my models dying -I loved (and love) the color mix I picked -At the time, they had more Legion-specific stuff than anyone else, and it all fuckin owned -Their fluff supported my ideal playstyle (Then their rules got updated and the SoH paints came out from Forge World, and while they stopped being my perfect lovely snowflake legion, the changes also supported my playstyle perfectly, so I called it a wash.) This is a long-winded way of saying: -Almost every Legion can support almost every model, so don’t worry about playstyle, except with regard to the unique units -Think about whether you actually want to own Legion X: have models standing around cupboards and shelves, piles of bits on your desk, and the army itself. -Think about what you enjoy painting and modeling, and what you don’t. -Think about whether you actually think the guys are cooler than most of their peers. -Probably play Imperial Fists, because it seems like you already know you want to play Imperial Fists.
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I picked Word Bearers because I liked The First Heretic and gal vorbak rule.
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parabolic posted:I picked Word Bearers because I liked The First Heretic and gal vorbak rule. First, last, and only reason.
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Oct 27, 2022 19:29
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 New night lords upgrades finally shown. I think these ones look pretty good actually. 🤔
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Commissar Canuck posted:For me, coming from games like Bolt Action, I've found focusing an army/legion on a specific event helps both keep me focused and help build out a thematic force. I was originally thinking of doing White Scars themed around them doing sick wheelies over the Lion's Gate Spaceport during the Siege of Terra, for example. Nice work on these
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Mr Teatime posted:
Yeah, these are good. Nice job incorporating the skull over the beak.
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Mr Teatime posted:
Nice. I can buy that and pop them on a bunch of regular Marines and call it a Terror Squad. 
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First off I'm not quoting nearly enough people here. So many people gave great advice and I really enjoyed learning from others how they picked. Thank you everyoneparabolic posted:I picked Word Bearers because I liked The First Heretic and gal vorbak rule. So I haven't read First Heretic but I've heard nothing but great things about them. It's really between this and Imperial Fist. I think that's the 2 I am firmly down to. Love the lore, the models and rules look good Mr Teatime posted:
These do look pretty good. I l like em and I would use them honestly. not enough to sway me to them, I couldn't do the Nightlords justice.....I would want flayed skin and lightning everywhere Sulecrist posted:This is a long-winded way of saying: I can't lie, I am absolutely leaning on Imperial Fist. I am going to do a test model of how I want to do Word Bearers and a Imperial Fist beaky. See if I hate myself after painting either one or if one just clicks with me more. I feel that I would be happy with either one of these Legions Biggest reason I lean so heavily on IF? My first ever army was a Epic 40k(I believe 3rd edition, it was before Armageddon) and it was Imperial Fist It was such a poo poo paintjob + trying to learn to paint on 6mm mini's and all that.......I still loved them. I still think fondly of them and love brighter colour armies at time. No matter what game system I'm in....I love me some yellow armour because of that. gently caress yo stealth. I'm right here!!! Dakka Dakka Edit: Oh I should look up the alt stuff for the Imperial Fist and Word bearers in terms of shoudlers and heads. What I can buy or print. That is a big deal....I want to kitbash some stuff
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Please james. Where are the mk6 choinswords and bolt pistols
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Imperial Fists are the poster boys of the new edition of 30K. They're also, frankly, bland. Word Bearers - and Lorgar in particular - saw the writing on the wall (or, the tank's hull) and knew that the Imperium would become a hellish theocracy that worshiped the empire and. Unfortunately for them they saw it too soon and were damned for it. Plus, you can use the cool new Possessed as Gal Vorbak or conversion parts and Sisters of Battle bits (like books and torches) to dress up their vehicles.
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Ristolaz posted:Please james. Where are the mk6 choinswords and bolt pistols I think it’ll be new bodies too. Some of the poses don’t really work unless you’re holding a two handed gun.
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Oct 28, 2022 14:53
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Also don’t count out mk2 and mk5
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Cessna posted:Imperial Fists are the poster boys of the new edition of 30K. They're also, frankly, bland. But better than 40K, at least. I've got a friend who plays them and sighs when reminded that their successor chapter is better than they are by an order of magnitude.
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Dawgstar posted:But better than 40K, at least. I've got a friend who plays them and sighs when reminded that their successor chapter is better than they are by an order of magnitude. 
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Siivola posted:Well being the poster boys for Rogue Trader and the 3rd edition Marine codex helps. ? The BTs and Imperial Fists weren't in the old Rogue Trader book.
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Cessna posted:? I think they mean the Crimson Fists? (Vote for Pedro! I'm careful with that meme as it's an antique.)
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Yeah, I'm referring to the Other Fists. I know your friend didn't mean them, but they were the first thing that popped to my mind. 
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Dawgstar posted:I think they mean the Crimson Fists? (Vote for Pedro! I'm careful with that meme as it's an antique.) Ah, of course. The "3rd Edition" part threw me. Sorry about that!
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TTerrible posted:I think it’ll be new bodies too. Some of the poses don’t really work unless you’re holding a two handed gun. yeah I'll take a 10 man mk6 box with options for double pistols, chainswords, volkite pistol upgrades, and optional jump packs 
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I definitely would like a box of mk6 melee dudes with better poses. Ideally it comes out at the same time as the Alpha Legion upgrade kits - I’m stockpiling bits to make a bunch of Consuls.
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I think we're more likely to get a dedicated Despoiler Squad box in either Mark II or Mark V armor, with the melee weapon options, and then a box of ten jump packs you can buy separately. And then maybe a box of combi-weapons and nemesis bolters designed to only work on the arm poses for either the existing Tactical Squad box or the new Despoiler Squad box, but not both. (Also the Despoiler Squad body poses, of which there will be only five, will be super distinctively dynamic.) Stephenls fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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Okay, I started listening to "The First Heretic" and holy gently caress......I'm sold on the World Bearers now. Full stop, good to roll with them. gently caress the Emperor and Gulliman is a douchewaffle. I knew I always hated Ultramarines for a good reason w/ out knowing why Thank you for the earlier suggestion of grabbing the new Possessed models and a box of Chaos Space Marines for lots of kitbashing off the jump. I'm stoked to get this going. Gotta specifically make sure I get some robed like bits. Need robes!!! edit: Holy poo poo this book is amazing......if you haven't listened to it or read it. Do yourself a favour......and get it. Read it. It's really well done so far and gives such great backstory. Tiny Chalupa fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Oct 29, 2022 |
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Tiny Chalupa posted:Okay, I started listening to "The First Heretic" and holy gently caress......I'm sold on the World Bearers now. Full stop, good to roll with them. The ranks of the Aurelian swell  TTerrible posted:I think it’ll be new bodies too. Some of the poses don’t really work unless you’re holding a two handed gun. I've done 15 of them with Berzerker pistols/swords and while the hands look odd up close I think they work over all, honestly.
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Holy poo poo they’re rereleasing Aevos Jovan and the missing auxilia rapier teams. Jovans currently rarer than hens teeth and costs a fortune if you wanted him. I just paid far too much for a complete auxilia transfer sheet, I wonder if that’s coming back too.
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Mr Teatime posted:Holy poo poo they’re rereleasing Aevos Jovan and the missing auxilia rapier teams. Jovans currently rarer than hens teeth and costs a fortune if you wanted him. I just paid far too much for a complete auxilia transfer sheet, I wonder if that’s coming back too. I am pretty sure we were bidding on the same sheet lol, I really hope they release it again I have a whole army I can't finish until I get more 
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Mr Teatime posted:Holy poo poo they’re rereleasing Aevos Jovan and the missing auxilia rapier teams. Jovans currently rarer than hens teeth and costs a fortune if you wanted him. I just paid far too much for a complete auxilia transfer sheet, I wonder if that’s coming back too. gently caress yewh
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Speaking of 3rd party figures do people actually like those tortuga bay figurines? I see them all the time on heresy Instagram but to me they look like the legions of the Michelin man.
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Mr Teatime posted:Speaking of 3rd party figures do people actually like those tortuga bay figurines? I see them all the time on heresy Instagram but to me they look like the legions of the Michelin man. It's less exaggerated with the Mk II ones. I have some for my Veterans and Havocs.
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I'm a big fan of the Tortuga stuff. I prefer my Astartes to be bigger than Kasrkin (seriously what the gently caress are those guys being fed), and I tend to finish Heresy models with sponge chipping which helps make the edges look sharper than they actually are - it worked very well on the mkIIIs with the goofy round banding. The normally-scaled heads and shoulders on larger legs give me Paul Dainton vibes, and he's always been my favorite Warhammer artist so it works out for me!
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I really like mine, but not all their armor marks look good imo. Their MK2 and MK3 seem the best proportioned. Some of the later marks are a bit too thicc for me
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So a box of 40k Chaos Raptors with the Night Lords upgrade pack would make decent Night Raptors, right?
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Flaming Hot Cheetos: Heresy edition     
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Might finally dip a toe into HH because some other people at the LGS are interested in trying it out. Now I just have to decide what legion to go with. Really hard choice between Death Guard and World Eaters, which are my two favorites but also presumably have completely opposite playstyles. Anyone got any insight that might sway me one way or the other? Is zooming up the board and getting into melee ASAP actually a fun playstyle here? The new DG praetor models look rad as hell, and both armies have really cool terminators, so I'd thoroughly enjoy painting up both armies.
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Mr Teatime posted:There isn’t a melee upgrade set for the new Mkvi marines yet so if you want mass despoilers it’s a lot of expensive forgeworld resin despoilers and chain axe kits. Or  Speaking of which..... I have a box Chaos Space Marines coming in tomorrow so I can, finally, start assembling my army. I'll use all the bits to Chaos up different people here and there and just add some "flair" to the army. I would really like to try to find some good STL's of some Chaos'y or Rune inscripted shoulder pads. Does anyone have any suggestions or seen anything good floating around on Patreon or Cults3d? Thanks On the army building side, I'm still going back and forth on which Special Character to include besides a Herald w/ the Unswerving Devotion trait I'm going back and forth....am I better off w/ 2 20 Man Squads (1 Tactical + 1 Despoiler) or say.....3 10 man squads in Rhino's? The other "core" of the army, in my head at least, is a 5 man Recon Squad w/ Nemesis Bolter & a 10 man support squad w/ Warpfire Blasters w/ Augury scanner That "core" of 2 20 man blobs, Sergants w/ PF + Artificer armour, the recon + support squad is 956points Toss in the HQ's, a heavy support squad for my anti tank,decide if I want Ashen Circle + Gal Vorbak(or just one or the other) and yeah. Bam that's 2k easy. No idea if it's "good" but that fills up quick. Not sure if I want a more "mobile" Rhino based force or not
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Crossposting from the painting threadLucinice posted:Finished up the body of this contemptor dread for my HH Iron Warriors army.
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Tiny Chalupa posted:I'm going back and forth....am I better off w/ 2 20 Man Squads (1 Tactical + 1 Despoiler) or say.....3 10 man squads in Rhino's? In my experience, those formations are two very different playstyles. I tend to see mounted squads as a reactive force, since ten models is fine but might not be enough to be on the front line, while the Big Beautiful Blobs are more of a 'gently caress you, I'm doing this thing' kind of force. Both are psychologically distracting in different ways - the Rhinos keep their riders out of sight and out of mind at the cost of turning focus to your really expensive poo poo, while the Blobs are visually arresting and can start to short-circuit the enemy's target priority (especially if you're running Dark Brethren and there's a point of Favor or two coming down the pike). For what it's worth, the XVIIth is excellent at the Big Beautiful Blobs strategy. Dark Channeling keeps them from breaking, and a single point of Favor or boost from Eater of Wisdom turns those Despoilers or Assaults into some absolute murderers. And you mentioned special characters - he's expensive as gently caress, but Zardu Layak is excellent at buffing BBBs and can still take a Command Squad due to some rules chicanery.
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